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    Workout Days vs. Non-Workout Days

    Should diet be different on workout and non-workout days or is it better to keep your diet constant? On non-workout days, your muscles are still recovering so would you need to supplement your body with as much protein as on workout days?

    Right now I have about 150+g protein on workout days and 100+g protein on non-workout days. Is that too little protein (even on the workout days). Should I be having like 200g per day or like 200g on workout days and 150g on off days? Or is it fine like I have it?

    I'm afraid to increase protein too much becuase I've read that too much protein can lower testosterone. It sounds kind of stupid but I figure that it's better to be safe than sorry. Is this total BS?

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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    You need to keep your protein high.every.day. You muscles are constantly in repair mode after a good workout and the protein is needed for growth.

    I've heard of cycling carbs and fats, but I think the consensus is to keep your protein high every day possible.
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    Keep the diet the same. For myself I adjust it so I eat a bit more fat and then lower the carbs and keep it within my macros.
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    Some cycle carbs, others don't.. If you are single digit BF% I think carb cycling can help with water weight and whatnot (mostly for shows).

    I keep my protein the same and fat the same.. Some days I just hit the numbers I've set and get more carbs, other day I go over the fats & protein and have less carbs but it's just a few grams. Nothing drastic.

    As for calories, some like to lower calories on non workout days but I think it's easiest to just stay level
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    Originally Posted by TelusLob View Post
    You need to keep your protein high.
    No you don't.
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    Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus View Post
    No you don't.
    Please elaborate
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    Originally Posted by Virus4762 View Post
    Please elaborate
    You only need a certain amount and not an excess amount (unless you choose to).
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    You only need a certain amount and not an excess amount (unless you choose to).
    This, and unfortunately some people of bro-knowledge lore hear "keep protein high" and think excessive, when they would often do much better to replace some of that with fats, and carbs.
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    Originally Posted by Ajaro View Post
    This, and unfortunately some people of bro-knowledge lore hear "keep protein high" and think excessive, when they would often do much better to replace some of that with fats, and carbs.
    Which is based on trial and error to find out what works best, plus how people rather eat.
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    I would have to say that from what everyone has told you, a lot of it sounds right. However, I think that before anyone can give u info, we need to know exactly what your fitness goals are. Looking at your pic, I can see u are lean, and I know people who want leaner. So I ask, fat loss, muscle gain, or other?
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    Originally Posted by bbforlife9123 View Post
    I would have to say that from what everyone has told you, a lot of it sounds right. However, I think that before anyone can give u info, we need to know exactly what your fitness goals are. Looking at your pic, I can see u are lean, and I know people who want leaner. So I ask, fat loss, muscle gain, or other?
    Only muscle gain


    I've trying been trying to consume at least these amounts everyday:

    150g protein (*4) = 600
    350g carbs (*4) =1400
    100g fat(*9) = 900

    I count calories and macros kind of loosely so the numbers are all give or take 20g-40g but these are my minimum target ranges per day (I fill the rest of my diet randomly).

    Critiques?
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    Looks like good numbers actually. By excess I thought he was referring to like 300g lol.
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    Cumulonimbus: Can I ask why you consume 250g of protein? Just personal preference? Surely you would rather put some more calories towards your pathetic 625g CHO? :P (Obviously joking)
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    Originally Posted by trickysimon View Post
    Cumulonimbus: Can I ask why you consume 250g of protein? Just personal preference? Surely you would rather put some more calories towards your pathetic 625g CHO? :P (Obviously joking)
    Because when I am consuming 4,300 calories I can toss my macros around however I wish. I acknowledge the fact that a majority of it is not going towards MPS after deamination and a good amount of the of the nitrogen portion is being excreted as urea and the carbon skeleton is being oxidized and used via gluconeogenesis.

    At 625G CHO, the trace sources kill my PRO intake, hence the bump. I only need 200g TBH
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    Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus View Post
    Because when I am consuming 4,300 calories I can toss my macros around however I wish. I acknowledge the fact that a majority of it is not going towards MPS after deamination and a good amount of the of the nitrogen portion is being excreted as urea and the carbon skeleton is being oxidized and used via gluconeogenesis.

    At 625G CHO, the trace sources kill my PRO intake, hence the bump. I only need 200g TBH
    Reading this made me feel dumb.
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    Haha yeh, I was happy with the unedited version. But thanks for elaborating!
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    Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus View Post
    Because when I am consuming 4,300 calories I can toss my macros around however I wish. I acknowledge the fact that a majority of it is not going towards MPS after deamination and a good amount of the of the nitrogen portion is being excreted as urea and the carbon skeleton is being oxidized and used via gluconeogenesis.

    At 625G CHO, the trace sources kill my PRO intake, hence the bump. I only need 200g TBH
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