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    What is a "bleeding heart liberal" and why is this a bad thing?

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    usually refers to someone who acts based on all emotion with little to no thought and little to no depth, little to no understanding of the situation, and little to no understanding of the big picture.

    I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is bad.
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    Cliffs: "Bleeding heart liberals" want to relieve the suffering of everybody, including people who actually deserve suffering or even have brought it upon themselves through their own idiocy.

    I just call them "bleeding hearts," because this "help everybody and sing kumbaya" mentality appears on both sides of the political coin during election years because the masses are idiots and vote for whoever seems "nice," and being generically altruistic is an easy way to convince the masses that you are "nice."
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    A bleeding heart never thinks about the consequences that could happen with the action they want to do. All that matters is their intention, not the result. When failure results, they think more of the failed idea will just magically work the 2nd, 3rd, 57th time around.

    In monetary terms, a bleeding heart gives a beggar $5. 15 minutes later the bum is drinking a 40 of Old English. A week later the same bum comes up and the bleeding heart thinks "clearly $5 was not enough for him to buy very much. His options were limited. I'll give him $20 this time and maybe he'll go buy a waldorf salad and some scones from Starbucks." 15 minutes later, the bum has a 40 of Old English and 2 packs of smokes. A week later, the bleeding heart gives the beggar $100, suggesting the bum go buy a basic shirt, khakis, and some penny loafers. 15 minutes later the bum is buying a bottle of vodka, 5 packs of cigarettes, a few bags of potato chips, and keeps the rest to buy the same thing the next day. The bleeding heart keeps this cycle up week after week, giving more every time.

    Edit: The bleeding heart rarely wants to spend their own money, but other people's money instead.
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    Originally Posted by Beeewbs View Post
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    It depends.

    Good Person: The term is used against people who support humans over money, traditional but harmful institutions, and so on. Examples would be people who fought for civil rights and equal opportunity.

    The insult was used by conservative oppressor types.

    Emotional Idiot: It's an accurate statement for people who cry about dolphins, trees are better than people, no medical testing even if it saves babies but kills a rat, think all responsibility behavior around citizenship is too much, and yet they want to live in a nice place with a middle class life, etc.

    The insult is used to point out that this person might have interesting sounding views but isn't worth listening to.

    As usual, you have to think about all of it when hearing the term.
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    Theoretically it means someone who allows their emotions to overwhelm their rationality, in reality it generally means 'someone who doesn't vote Republican'.
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    "Bleeding Heart" is a reference to Christ. Someone who has a bleeding heart has a lot of sympathy for others. As a derogatory term, it means that a person is sympathetic toward someone in a tough situation based on the assumption that they are in that situation through no fault of their own, though this may not be the case. For example, a person said to have a bleeding heart might excuse someone for stealing food on the assumption that they are starving because of societal issues and have no other options, when in reality the person stealing food may just have a criminal mind.
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    In my general experience the term is tossed around as a distraction to cover up someone's laziness and self-hatred which is manifest through hatred of everyone else, including victims. There was a bloke at my last job who was always trying to goad me into political disputes, a self-hating, dour-faced, doughboy little loser who was pissed off at his ex-girlfriend for tricking him into getting her pregnant so he would be forced to pay child support. He also thought that playing Call of Duty and watching UFC made him qualified to be an Army Ranger AND fight in the UFC, yet never took up my offer to engage me in a cage fight. Whatever.

    Anyway, when he found out I was becoming a nurse, he starts yammering abut Obamacare and how nobody deserves health insurance unless they 'earn' it. Since I plan to become a psychiatric nurse, I asked him what should be done about people who are homeless because they are mentally ill and their families kicked them out. In typical fashion he denied that such things exist or are even possible, and went off on a tirade about how we're overmedicated. I ran into him again while I was on my first clinical rounds at a nursing home, where there are wards of the court with so many psychiatric disorders they can't even bathe themselves, and invited him to volunteer there.

    Little bitch didn't do it, no surprise, and surmised that I was a bleeding heart liberal for not thinking that mental disorders are a choice. so that's basically what it means: if you acknowledge that people can wind up in dire straits that they didn't choose, and you expect society to help them, you're not living like Jesus wanted you to.

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    For me, it's a liberal who has the right positions, but with horrible reasoning.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    Theoretically it means someone who allows their emotions to overwhelm their rationality, in reality it generally means 'someone who doesn't vote Republican'.
    This but I would add that, more generally, it is a term generally evoked by conservatives when criticizing supporters of maintaining or expanding social programs.
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787 View Post
    usually refers to someone who acts based on all emotion with little to no thought and little to no depth, little to no understanding of the situation, and little to no understanding of the big picture.

    I'll leave it to you to figure out why that is bad.
    If this was a complete description it would accurately describe a large portion of conservatives as well as liberals.
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    "bleeding heart liberals" are people who want to make everything fair and just in the world. there is nothing wrong with the mindset and most individuals go through a bleeding heart phase.

    the problem arises when they start learning about the world and realize that issues are much more complex than they once believed. also, there is no good method of implementation or legislative execution that would allow our current reality to achieve their idealistic goals.
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    Originally Posted by Mtguy8787
    usually refers to someone who acts based on all emotion with little to no thought and little to no depth, little to no understanding of the situation, and little to no understanding of the big picture.
    So banning abortion and gay marriage are arrived at via the means of entirely logical, unemotional reasoning; nothing to do with the Bible or wanting to control women's bodies and being terrified of sexuality that one does not understand. Pure logic. Spock ould be proud.
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    In general it's what violent sociopathic right-wingers use to describe people who don't agree with them.
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    you are a bleeding heart liberal if you don't agree with the super extreme righties on this forum. the ones that watch fox, glenn beck, listen to rush limbaugh, and have bill o'reilly action figures. that kind of person.
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    It must have been more popular a few decades ago because the only times I've ever heard people say it in person were from middle-aged liberals that went ahead and identified themselves as "bleeding heart liberals" as a preemptive defense.
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    Originally Posted by Sodao View Post
    you are a bleeding heart liberal if you don't agree with the super extreme righties on this forum. the ones that watch fox, glenn beck, listen to rush limbaugh, and have bill o'reilly action figures. that kind of person.
    I assume you mean that's what "super extreme righties on this forum. the ones that watch fox, glenn beck, listen to rush limbaugh, and have bill o'reilly action figures" with whom you disagree will call you
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    Originally Posted by Beatitude View Post
    It must have been more popular a few decades ago because the only times I've ever heard people say it in person were from middle-aged liberals that went ahead and identified themselves as "bleeding heart liberals" as a preemptive defense.
    It's very old, as I said up thread it's a reference to Christ. But it was more popular in the 70's when "Maude" was one of the highest rated shows on TV. She was considered a bleeding heart liberal. In the early 60's, there's a reference to the bleeding hearts of those voting Not Guilty by one of the jurors in "Twelve Angry Men".
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    The Ballad of the Bleeding Heart Liberal

    My life has been a horror,
    since I took up the liberal's art.
    But now I don't feel so guilty
    (It's great to be a "bleeding heart").

    The secret of this art is easy:
    just be nice to everyone.
    Even to murderers and molesters
    (It doesn't matter what they've done).

    Every guilt was on my shoulders;
    now listen to my tale:
    I'm responsible for all evil
    (I'm white, middle-class, and male).

    Villains robbed my house once,
    and my family they did assault.
    But this was due to society's ills
    (I knew it was not their fault).

    My daughter tried to stop them;
    they beat her with boot and fist.
    I did not try to save her
    (I'm a "born-again" pacifist).

    Their actions I could not judge;
    other people, I cannot condemn.
    Even though my wife was "graped"
    (there was a "bunch" of them).

    It was the same some years before,
    fighting Japs in jungle mud.
    I never shot a-one of them
    (couldn't stand to see yellow blood).

    In the future, when the Asian hordes
    follow their brothers' call:
    They'll outnumber Aussies ten to one
    ("We're all human", after all).

    My eldest son now condemns me,
    and tells me I'm a "nong",
    because I sold my country to the Japs
    (now, how could that be wrong?).

    My son thinks I'm an idiot,
    and he says I've got no hope.
    But I call myself a "liberal"
    (perhaps it should be "dope"?)
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Someone who is all heart, no brain.
    I would take all heart, no brain than someone who is no heart, no brain (e.g. a conservative)
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    Thanks for all of the answers.

    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    Theoretically it means someone who allows their emotions to overwhelm their rationality, in reality it generally means 'someone who doesn't vote Republican'.
    Yeah, it seems to be used in a very broad sense, which is why I'm wanting a description, as pretty much anyone who leans left is a bleeding heart liberal to many.

    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    "Bleeding Heart" is a reference to Christ. Someone who has a bleeding heart has a lot of sympathy for others. As a derogatory term, it means that a person is sympathetic toward someone in a tough situation based on the assumption that they are in that situation through no fault of their own, though this may not be the case. For example, a person said to have a bleeding heart might excuse someone for stealing food on the assumption that they are starving because of societal issues and have no other options, when in reality the person stealing food may just have a criminal mind.
    What's ironic is this is almost always an insult from conservatives who claim to be Christians. It seems that the less hardcore religious people (and atheists) are always the bleeding hearts who are more compassionate and sympathetic to others (whether deserved or properly executed).

    Originally Posted by Penile_Dementia View Post
    If this was a complete description it would accurately describe a large portion of conservatives as well as liberals.
    Yeah. And usually, when someone says someone is being too emotional, the other person is being just as or more emotional, but they're using different emotions.
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    Originally Posted by voltio8836 View Post
    I would take all heart, no brain than someone who is no heart, no brain (e.g. a conservative)
    Libertarians, who are both heart and brain trump either, though.
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    Originally Posted by amtharin View Post
    The Ballad of the Bleeding Heart Liberal

    My life has been a horror,
    since I took up the liberal's art.
    But now I don't feel so guilty
    (It's great to be a "bleeding heart").

    The secret of this art is easy:
    just be nice to everyone.
    Even to murderers and molesters
    (It doesn't matter what they've done).

    Every guilt was on my shoulders;
    now listen to my tale:
    I'm responsible for all evil
    (I'm white, middle-class, and male).

    Villains robbed my house once,
    and my family they did assault.
    But this was due to society's ills
    (I knew it was not their fault).

    My daughter tried to stop them;
    they beat her with boot and fist.
    I did not try to save her
    (I'm a "born-again" pacifist).

    Their actions I could not judge;
    other people, I cannot condemn.
    Even though my wife was "graped"
    (there was a "bunch" of them).

    It was the same some years before,
    fighting Japs in jungle mud.
    I never shot a-one of them
    (couldn't stand to see yellow blood).

    In the future, when the Asian hordes
    follow their brothers' call:
    They'll outnumber Aussies ten to one
    ("We're all human", after all).

    My eldest son now condemns me,
    and tells me I'm a "nong",
    because I sold my country to the Japs
    (now, how could that be wrong?).

    My son thinks I'm an idiot,
    and he says I've got no hope.
    But I call myself a "liberal"
    (perhaps it should be "dope"?)
    "you are a bleeding heart liberal if you don't agree with the super extreme righties on this forum. the ones that watch fox, glenn beck, listen to rush limbaugh, and have bill o'reilly action figures. that kind of person."
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    I get a kick out of this piss fest that is surprise, surprise, partisan. Only dip****s are on the extremes. Plenty of conservatives are some of the nicest people you'd ever meet. And a lot of leftists are not foolish bleeding hearts.
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