You Just Don't Understand I Have Assurance

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 06:19 PM

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

Popsicle52 · 02-05-2007, 06:21 PM

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I pray to God and He answers.

Argument from voices in your head. Logical fallacy.

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by iamGigantor

Argument from voices in your head. Logical fallacy.

Try to stay true to that view while you are shoveling the coal.

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

Hey, buddy. I was afraid you had given up on this place.

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nonAtlas

Hey, buddy. I was afraid you had given up on this place.

Hello my friend. I am glad to see you are still fighting the good fight.

ceno · 02-05-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

LOL....

Not everybody is as weak as you are...
some of us dont need no guidance from an invisible entity.

Thank you..

974g63awd · 02-05-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

I admire your beliefs and respect your faith. However, whats to stop someone from feeling the same thing you do towards a different god? What if someone felt this same exact way towards another religion?

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Hello my friend. I am glad to see you are still fighting the good fight.

And winning!

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 974g63awd

I admire your beliefs and respect your faith. However, whats to stop someone from feeling the same thing you do towards a different god? What if someone felt this same exact way towards another religion?

God gives each of us the authority to do that. This is because He makes us spiritual free agents with intelligence and free will to decide for ourselves. So you are not compelled in the least and you get to decide for yourself. What more could you ask?

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 974g63awd

I admire your beliefs and respect your faith. However, whats to stop someone from feeling the same thing you do towards a different god? What if someone felt this same exact way towards another religion?

You can live and die on what if's. I have assurance meaning that I know for sure that no other religion offers what Christ offers. If you are ever interested in finding out for yourself then give Jesus a chance. It may change your life forever. Or you can blow it off and gamble on eternity, your choice.

aiwass · 02-05-2007, 06:30 PM

By claiming to know for sure, you are saying that YOU are infallible. That's bull****.

Popsicle52 · 02-05-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

. Or you can blow it off and gamble on eternity, your choice.

Have fun eternally bathing in boiling pasta sauce.

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aiwass

By claiming to know for sure, you are saying that YOU are infallible. That's bull****.

No he isn't; you are wrong on both claims. Knowing the Truth is not the same as being "infallible", and the fact that each of us has to go through a lot of crap that doesn't make us proud means that by the time we find the Savior, we know who He is, who we are, and the difference between the two. That is reality.

Beatitude · 02-05-2007, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aiwass

By claiming to know for sure, you are saying that YOU are infallible. That's bull****.

John 5: 31-40:
If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is valid. You have sent John and he has testified the truth. Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light.
I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testified that the Father has sent me. And the Father who sent me has himiself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

974g63awd · 02-05-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

You can live and die on what if's. I have assurance meaning that I know for sure that no other religion offers what Christ offers. If you are ever interested in finding out for yourself then give Jesus a chance. It may change your life forever. Or you can blow it off and gamble on eternity, your choice.

I have my own personal relationship with god thank you.

JBDW · 02-05-2007, 06:38 PM

Well, I know you're wrong. SK, EOY, and TranceNRG know that Islam is right. IceDragon knows her gods exist.

Cool to know we're all right.

ceno · 02-05-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JBDW

Well, I know you're wrong. SK, EOY, and TranceNRG know that Islam is right. IceDragon knows her gods exist.

Cool to know we're all right.

Yup, thats why we've been killing eachother for the last 3000 years.

As george carlin says, chances that we don't wear the same kind of hat...probably thats why....

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ceno

Yup, thats why we've been killing eachother for the last 3000 years.

As george carlin says, chances that we don't wear the same kind of hat...probably thats why....

No. Adam is why we have been killing each other.

DTRG · 02-05-2007, 06:51 PM

ever thought the person/thing/god youre talking to is yourself? and since confidence is what makes things happen, you talk to yourself in your head which makes you more confident that youll have favor. god is a mental placebo. maybe you gain favor because you think youll gain favor. i dont want to ruin it for you tho, so go jesus!

ERCVGII · 02-05-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nonAtlas

No. Adam is why we have been killing each other.

I thought eve was the one that bit the apple?

btw...you never replied to my request on the slavery issue. You just mysteriously disappeared on me. Care to take a stab at it now?

notorius1 · 02-05-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

God is only real to you because you think he is. I've tried all of the above and I got nothing in return from your god. So keep thinking there exists some invisible being that gives a **** about your insignificant little life here on Earth if you keeps you happy.

I prefer reality.

ERCVGII · 02-05-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

You can live and die on what if's. I have assurance meaning that I know for sure that no other religion offers what Christ offers. If you are ever interested in finding out for yourself then give Jesus a chance. It may change your life forever. Or you can blow it off and gamble on eternity, your choice.

Sorry to offend u (yet again), but i seriously doubt you've done objective researches of all of the worlds' religions before you came to this conclusion.

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCVGII

I thought eve was the one that bit the apple?

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world,
and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because
all sinned
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over
those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the
transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s
offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by
the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.
Romans 5

Unreal_Machine · 02-05-2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by adilrockstar

Many of the people on this forum don't believe in Jesus as God. You say that you need proof in order to believe in anything. I say to you that I have proof. I experience God in my life daily. I pray to God and He answers. He shows me favor. He gives me guidance. He is real. I know that I cannot offer you 100% undeniable physical proof, but if you give Christ a chance He will give you 100% proof in your life.

What is so bad about that? Why would you not give this a try?

I had assurance that Odin exists. I speak to him, and with his blessing i slay my enemies. He has assured me a place inside the Golden Gates of Valhalla.

Since Odin exists, your God doesn't exist. Because Odin would kill him, because atop the 8 hooved horse Sleipnir he is the Master of War.

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DTRG

ever thought the person/thing/god youre talking to is yourself? and since confidence is what makes things happen, you talk to yourself in your head which makes you more confident that youll have favor. god is a mental placebo. maybe you gain favor because you think youll gain favor. i dont want to ruin it for you tho, so go jesus!

You can live on Maybe. I will live in assurance.

ERCVGII · 02-05-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nonAtlas

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world,
and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because
all sinned
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over
those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the
transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
15 But the free gift is not like the offense. For if by the one man’s
offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by
the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many.
Romans 5

so...adam bit the apple???? i edited my last post please recheck it.

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notorius1

God is only real to you because you think he is. I've tried all of the above and I got nothing in return from your god. So keep thinking there exists some invisible being that gives a **** about your insignificant little life here on Earth if you keeps you happy.

I prefer reality.

Did you seek God for own gain, or did you seek Him to have a relationship with Him?

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCVGII

Sorry to offend u (yet again), but i seriously doubt you've done objective researches of all of the worlds' religions before you came to this conclusion.

You have yet to offend me:
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

adilrockstar · 02-05-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unreal_Machine

I had assurance that Odin exists. I speak to him, and with his blessing i slay my enemies. He has assured me a place inside the Golden Gates of Valhalla.

Since Odin exists, your God doesn't exist. Because Odin would kill him, because atop the 8 hooved horse Sleipnir he is the Master of War.

Come on man. Master of War?

My God is the Master of Love.

nonAtlas · 02-05-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ERCVGII

so...adam bit the apple???? i edited my last post please recheck it.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying
"Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you
shall surely die."
18 And the LORD God said "It is not good that man
should be alone; I will make him a helper comparable to
him."
19 Out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast
of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them
to Adam to see what he would call them. And whatever
Adam called each living creature, that was its name.
20 So Adam gave names to all cattle, to the birds of the
air, and to every beast of the field. But for Adam there
was not found a helper comparable to him.
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam,
and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up
the flesh in its place.
22 Then the rib which the LORD God had taken from man
He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
23 And Adam said:
"This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man."
Genesis 2

The command that Adam not eat of the tree preceded the presence of the woman. Thus he was responsible for her action and his own failure to instruct her as he had been commanded.