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    Should I cut out Muscle Milk during Cut phase?

    Should I cut out Muscle Milk during my Cut phase?
    if so, what protein to replace with?

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    Originally Posted by DavidGaudreau View Post
    Should I cut out Muscle Milk during my Cut phase?
    if so, what protein to replace with?

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    definately!

    ON %100 Casein

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    Originally Posted by skircus7 View Post
    ???? All three or just one?
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    Originally Posted by DavidGaudreau View Post
    ???? All three or just one?
    lol......just giving you many options to replace MM with

    Sustain tastes great. It's peanut butter fudge
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    So the sustain I can take before workout, after work out and before bed?
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    Originally Posted by DavidGaudreau View Post
    So the sustain I can take before workout, after work out and before bed?
    it's best before bed, or in between meals.......it's mainly micellar casein, which digests slower than whey concentrate and isolate. Something like:

    Dymatize Elite Whey

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    should be taken post workout, and pre workout if you want.....the chocolate mint, cafe mocha, butter toffee are amazing!
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    Muscle Milk gets a lot of criticism because of it's high fat content. However, a little fat is OK (even saturated fat) for keeping up your testosterone levels. I don't consume much fat throughout the day so Muscle Milk becomes my main source of fat.
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    Originally Posted by skircus7 View Post
    Out of those three,my favorite is ultra peptide by far.
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    If you really like the MM then you could go with MM light. It still tastes pretty good and is a good whey/casein blend.
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    What about ON 100% Whey? Should that be cut out when cutting?
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    100% ON whey is fine during cutting. I definitely recommend Sustain for prebed use also it tastes amazing especially with some skim milk. It is great stuff.
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    Originally Posted by krazybartender View Post
    Muscle Milk gets a lot of criticism because of it's high fat content. However, a little fat is OK (even saturated fat) for keeping up your testosterone levels. I don't consume much fat throughout the day so Muscle Milk becomes my main source of fat.
    I agree! My diet is very low in fast/Sat Fat So really the MM is my only source of fat. it has no trans fatty acid Plus+ it is desinged to help in the aid of fat loss, According to the front label.

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    In addition to Muscle Milk, Cytosport makes EvoPro, which is the same micellar casein as Muscle Milk, but without the fat (I believe the fat content is less than 3g).

    On cuts, I don't know that it really makes a difference re: whey vs. casein, except at night. And as someone else stated, casein's preferable before bed because it digests slower, so the protein stays in your system longer. This can also be enhanced by adding some flax seed oil or other healthy fat to the mix.
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    It is best to use the Sustain at bed time because of the Casien content. For before work out and after work out I would get a good whey protien isolate, some good ones are Dymatize, Nectar and Isopure. Any of those will do you good for pre and post work out.
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    Originally Posted by bwilson View Post
    It is best to use the Sustain at bed time because of the Casien content. For before work out and after work out I would get a good whey protien isolate, some good ones are Dymatize, Nectar and Isopure. Any of those will do you good for pre and post work out.
    So those will be better than my MM?
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    They are recomending an Isolate such as Dymatize, Nectar, or Isopure and a casien protein like Sustain, ON 100% casein, or Ultra peptide because they are lower in fat since you are on a cut but if your diet is low in fat then keep the MM for the fat content.
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    Originally Posted by skydiver View Post
    They are recomending an Isolate such as Dymatize, Nectar, or Isopure and a casien protein like Sustain, ON 100% casein, or Ultra peptide because they are lower in fat since you are on a cut but if your diet is low in fat then keep the MM for the fat content.
    Okay well I guess I will switch my MM for Ultra peptide.
    I'll use it before work out after work out and before bed.
    Can I mix with 2% milk or does it have to be water.
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    Wait I thought Muscle Milk was good fats... and all that lean lipids stuff... is this just bull****?
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    Originally Posted by Sho-stopper View Post
    If you really like the MM then you could go with MM light. It still tastes pretty good and is a good whey/casein blend.
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    I cut mm out just to lean up for summer and rid myself of low ab fat..I'm not sold on the 8 grams of saturated fat..**** taste good it's a shame..I seen a bodybuilder guy going to competition and claimed to take muscle milk..He said he just pretty much removed more of the fats out of his diet so he could include mm in his regimen..

    if your diet is tight..Do it

    if your diet isn't perfected..I'd go more with an On Whey Supplement..Add some fruit or peanut butter for flavoring

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    Thumbs up Hmmm

    It's all particulars... I mean peanuts have a lot of fat. We drink milk don't we? Fats won't be the killer in the cut phase. It's the calories and carbs you take in that really matter. If your worried about fat then you would be worrying about your cardiac health - which should be fine if your an active person. MM is fine to take on a cut. It's protein, and has a few other things in it that are good and on top of that it taste amazing with skim and some ice. With a cut diet of 2300 calories or less, the MM will not make a differance if you are using it as your fuel for the fire. Just remember that.
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    I take MM cookies n cream maybe a few times a week, instead of 2 scoops I just use one. I honestly don't think it'll hurt you as long as it fits in your macros.
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    I was gonna cut out the MM becuase of the fat so I bought a 5lb jug of ON's 100% whey and for me its the worst tasting stuff I have ever tried! Syntha-6 taste good to me and its lower in fat then MM so maybe thats another option for you.
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    Little on the expensive side but Nature's Best Zero Carb Isopure. The numbers are great and has plenty of amino acids.
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    Absolutely quit muscle milk for cutting or precontest

    C'mon guys, if you want to get that rock hard look, that really dense look, you got to lay off the whey protein all together. Its dairy for gods sake...dont get me wrong, it has its place in the off season, but for cutting or pre contest...eliminate it and see how much quicker you tighten up and how dense your muscle become. No more secrets from me........!!! Egg protein guys, and protein from real food sources (fish, tuna, eggs, lean red meat) is the recipe to look better and harder than ever before.

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    i have seen a lean version of MM in stores. idk if that would be beneficial for a cut.....
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    I'm cutting right now and have gotten down to 6.7% BF. I've been cutting for about 2 months solid and have only had 2 or three cheat days, and I usually get my fats from avocados so I cut out the MM (though I LOVE IT!) but I've been using ON 100% Casien (vanilla) before bed/between meals, and ON gold standard pre/post workout. They don't taste as good as MM, but that vanilla casein is starting to taste pretty darn good.

    BTW the chocolate Casien was horrible for me.
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    Muscle milk pina colada...I'm getting a hardon just thinking about it.
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    I was wondering if MM might actually benefit me during my cut. I was thinking of picking it up and using it either pre bed... or preworkout. The thing is I don't really consume a lot of fat throughout the day and I was wondering it this would make a good source of fat for a cut.. IF it's in my macros along with my usage of fishoil, almonds, PB.
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    MM is great on a cut. fit it in to your macros and enjoy its deliciousness. fat is GOOD on a cut, just watch your CARBS
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