California passes 'yes-means-yes' campus sexual assault bill

[MrTonedman]

http://news.yahoo.com/california-pas...092512755.html

The bill states that silence and a lack of resistance do not signify consent and that drugs or alcohol do not excuse unwanted sexual activity.

Essentially, it states if someone doesn't say yes or no while drunk it is then considered rape. (they HAVE TO SAY YES)

By that logic if someone drives home drunk and accidentally kills someone they're exempt because they were drunk.

[XXLAFLAME]

this doesnt change anything sloots lie all the time and courts favor them by a landslide

[shortharry01]

waiting for the first feminist to say yes can still mean no.

[BrandG]

I truly, with every fiber of my being, despise California. Will never set foot in even if my career depended on it/10

[sn24]

Isn't this a good thing? Many times they say that if the girl is drunk she couldn't give proper consent so even if she said yes, it still wasn't consensual because she wasn't in control of her actions. This eliminates that. But now it's just a "he said, she said" thing

[AppsBrah]

I agree with that bill. Prevents people from legally fukking (almost) passed out girls. Plenty of scumbags that take advantage of drugged girls.

inb4 negs

[MrTonedman]

this doesnt change anything sloots lie all the time and courts favor them by a landslide

Exactly this is a bill to give females more power. If some drunk guy gets molested/raped by some hideous whale and reports it he will be laughed at by everyone.

[digistp]

Time to start carrying around consent forms

[COFFEEMUG]

Isn't this a good thing? Many times they say that if the girl is drunk she couldn't give proper consent so even if she said yes, it still wasn't consensual because she wasn't in control of her actions. This eliminates that. But now it's just a "he said, she said" thing

she already can't give proper consent if drunk

this makes it so if it's anything but yes then it's rape. If you're making out with a chick and start finger-banging her and shes thrusting up against you unless she gives you an affirmative "yes you may finger-bang my va-jay-jay" then it could be rape. Seriously, it defines sexual assault extremely broadly

Under SB-967, a man is guilty of rape if he does not obtain affirmative consent to sex. “‘Affirmative consent’” means affirmative, conscious, and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity.” On its face, the new legal requirement doesn’t seem unreasonable. Don’t have sex with unconscious girls and girls who don’t agree to have sex.

The big issue with SB-967 is the requirement that consent be “affirmative.” What is an affirmative agreement to have sex? More importantly, how does a man show that a girl affirmatively agreed to having sex with him?

After all, school disciplinary procedures do not give young men due process. The burden of proof is on the man to show that he is innocent – which means he must somehow show the girl he had sex with was really really really into the sex.

Under SB-967, a man is guilty of rape if his shy girlfriend is not freaky enough, is not grabbing his hands and putting it on her lady parts, and is not waking up the neighborhood with screams and moans of pleasure. Think I’m exaggerating? Then read the billl, which states, “Lack of protest or resistance does not mean consent, nor does silence mean consent.”

Even if she’s already your girlfriend, she must be loud and freaky every time you have sex. Again, don’t take my word for it. Read the law. “The existence of a dating relationship between the persons involved, or the fact of past sexual relations between them, should never by itself be assumed to be an indicator of consent.”

More here: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/08...ill-means-men/

[daiawa]

Isn't this a good thing? Many times they say that if the girl is drunk she couldn't give proper consent so even if she said yes, it still wasn't consensual because she wasn't in control of her actions. This eliminates that. But now it's just a "he said, she said" thing

Nope, even if she says "yes" if she has been drinking "she is unable to consent".

[MrTonedman]

Time to start carrying around consent forms

[SkateAndDestroy]

I agree with that bill. Prevents people from legally fukking (almost) passed out girls. Plenty of scumbags that take advantage of drugged girls.

inb4 negs

But is it worth it for how many potential life's it could destroy? Srs because I don't think so.

Also the car drunk driving example is great op.

[sn24]

Nope, even if she says "yes" if she has been drinking "she is unable to consent".

That doesn't make sense though. I'm pretty sure the bill means "yes means yes," not "only a sober yes means yes"

man idk this chits too confusing lol

[J_A24]

What happens when she says yes and the next day she sees my 3/10 facial aesthetics on ******** and reports rape?

[TooAnabolic]

brb starting to have sex with someone then stopping to ask them to sign a contract

initial here

sign here

...... fuk that

[MrTonedman]

brb starting to have sex with someone then stopping to ask them to sign a contract

initial here

sign here

...... fuk that

Looks like that is becoming a reality. Good bye testicles, women have taken them.

[tricepwarrior]

Never living in california crew

[Num3n]

waiting for the first feminist to say yes can still mean no.

Already been said. Srs

[HaterSalad]

California. Lol.

[therealistwat]

Wow, when we have kids and they get to college, there will be little to no sex at all. Like NO ONE is going to join Frats in 20 years guys. We've just opened the gates of creating the most Awkward Generation of all time. Our kids generation will be the FA Generation if chit doesn't change.

Girls in Cali can now go, "Remember that time last month where you gave me the best fuk of my life? Well I didn't say Yes, and you made me mad today.


See you in court. Live.Laugh.Love"

[KoyKoy]

Cali just passed a plastic bag ban too

[destitutestoner]

screaming means consent crew.

[J_A24]

I don't have any problem with it, it makes sense, only thing I'm waiting for is how do they plan to deal with false rape accusations.

[ho_124]

So under this law, if you bring a girl home and she comes onto you without saying anything, it's considered rape?

[sandbagger92]

waiting for the first feminist to say yes can still mean no.

It's only a matter of time brah

[RamRod2334]

http://news.yahoo.com/california-pas...092512755.html

The bill states that silence and a lack of resistance do not signify consent and that drugs or alcohol do not excuse unwanted sexual activity.

Essentially, it states if someone doesn't say yes or no while drunk it is then considered rape. (they HAVE TO SAY YES)

By that logic if someone drives home drunk and accidentally kills someone they're exempt because they were drunk.

Strong condoning of date rape In this post.

If the girl is too drunk to say no or yes you probably shouldn't be slammin her

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

Cali just passed a plastic bag ban too

lol, absurd.

[Tastel]

So you have to have her sign a consent form before you fuk her?

[JeffereyTyrone]

So if a girl has sex with you, but you don't specifically say "want to have sex" it is rape? How would they know?

[AppsBrah]

But is it worth it for how many potential life's it could destroy? Srs because I don't think so.

Meh. I doubt a jury will say guilty when a girl pulled your dick out and started sucking on it, bill or not. I'm pretty sure the # of girls (date)raped/assaulted exceeds the # of guys with a ruined life because of a fake rape claim.