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    I just want to start a thread about honesty...

    INB4 no responses. Don't worry I will elaborate on this if need be.
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    IMO Honesty stems from Integrity.
    You either have it or you dont.
    But then it CAN be taken to the extreme and become brutally honest.
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    Unfortunately we lie to ourselves far too much to be completely honest with others.
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    Originally Posted by Forge3 View Post
    INB4 no responses. Don't worry I will elaborate on this if need be.
    So be honest...
    are you intoxicated and are you going to delete this thread?
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    Honesty is hard sometimes...its true: sometimes the truth hurts.

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    Personally, I think honesty is the best policy.
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    reminds me of a Billy Joel song
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    best definition I have ever heard for honesty = Lack of intent to deceive...lying by omission is still lying!
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    I think that there are times when honesty is appropriate and times when it isn't. There's a fine line between being honest for good and honest for bad; and I'm not sure that, even at 35, I always know the right answer to this.
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    Originally Posted by Simpy View Post
    I think that there are times when honesty is appropriate and times when it isn't. There's a fine line between being honest for good and honest for bad; and I'm not sure that, even at 35, I always know the right answer to this.

    I agree 100% with this. Just because you have an opionion, and would only give an honest opinion, still doesn't mean you should share it, even if you have a right to give it. Sometimes, discretion is the best policy.
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    Oh excellent, a thread about honesty. Let's see how many trite contributions we can gather on the subject before the OP closes it. This thread belongs in a fifth grade classroom.

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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    Oh excellent, a thread about honesty. Let's see how many trite contributions we can gather on the subject before the OP closes it. This thread belongs in a fifth grade classroom.
    I was in fifth grade before you were born. You may prefer to revisit this idea when you've a little more salt.
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    lol
    I dono, I lie to myself all the time. Can't speak for the rest of mankind, but I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else has done the same at at least one point in their lives
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    I was in fifth grade before you were born. You may prefer to revisit this idea when you've a little more salt.
    Touche.

    I just don't see this topic going anywhere without a little more effort from the OP. Honesty and integrity are tired topics. The OP should provide something meaningful to build off of.

    And hey, he wanted a thread about honesty. That's my honest opinion of this thread.
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    Oh excellent, a thread about honesty. Let's see how many trite contributions we can gather on the subject before the OP closes it. This thread belongs in a fifth grade classroom.

    Just my frank .02
    Only because you haven't experienced enough life (granted, I'm guessing) to update your latest definition to beyond that of a 5th grader. Almost everything is cut and dry when you're very young. OP has his reasons for asking.
    2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)

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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    Only because you haven't experienced enough life (granted, I'm guessing) to update your latest definition to beyond that of a 5th grader. Almost everything is cut and dry when you're very young. OP has his reasons for asking.
    He didn't ask anything.

    Thats why i gave him my honest opinion: the thread is weak.

    Had he asked everyone to clearly define honesty, i may have been a little nicer to him.
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    He didn't ask anything.
    Sure he did. You're looking too hard. Back up a little bit.
    2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)

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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    Sure he did. You're looking too hard. Back up a little bit.
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    What would you do:

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    Originally Posted by mslman71 View Post
    Sure he did. You're looking too hard. Back up a little bit.
    Well then, i'll retract my frank statements when someone offers something that hasn't been said about honesty 1,000,000 times before.
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    He didn't ask anything.

    Thats why i gave him my honest opinion: the thread is weak.

    Had he asked everyone to clearly define honesty, i may have been a little nicer to him.
    You want MY honest opinion??


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    I honestly think this thread sux
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    Well then, i'll retract my frank statements when someone offers something that hasn't been said about honesty 1,000,000 times before.
    Ah, the good old days of black and white.
    2 + 2 = 5 (for extremely large values of 2)

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    Well then, i'll retract my frank statements when someone offers something that hasn't been said about honesty 1,000,000 times before.
    Sometimes things need to be repeated. There are a lot of other threads that you can frequent if you don't like the topic of this one.
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    Sometimes things need to be repeated. There are a lot of other threads that you can frequent if you don't like the topic of this one.
    He wanted honesty.
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    He wanted honesty.
    This is a clear-cut example of the difference between honesty and truth.
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    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    He wanted honesty.
    He didn't say that. He said a thread about honesty. You assumed he wanted honesty or a definition of it. Personally, I think what responders assumed he meant is the most interesting part of the non-question
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    This is a clear-cut example of the difference between honesty and truth.
    Well then... What is truth?

    I challenge you to speak without referencing my age. It's easy enough to discount anyones opinions based on age. Let's talk content. I'm all ears.
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    Originally Posted by Marius_Ursus View Post
    Unfortunately we lie to ourselves far too much to be completely honest with others.
    Truth ^^^

    Originally Posted by Simpy View Post
    I think that there are times when honesty is appropriate and times when it isn't. There's a fine line between being honest for good and honest for bad; and I'm not sure that, even at 35, I always know the right answer to this.
    More Truth ^^^^

    Originally Posted by Jamier11 View Post
    Oh excellent, a thread about honesty. Let's see how many trite contributions we can gather on the subject before the OP closes it. This thread belongs in a fifth grade classroom.

    Just my frank .02
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    I was in fifth grade before you were born. You may prefer to revisit this idea when you've a little more salt.
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    Originally Posted by Old-Time-Lifter View Post


    ^^^ Master of truth. Lp
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