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    The rugged man vs the pretty boy

    Has anyone ever notices girls dates the pretty boys but they phuck the rugged guys. Also, alot of girls usually of ages 19+ finds the rugged look very attractive and disregards the metrosexuals. Does it have to do with evolutionary biology or is it a social construct???
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    I work in an office so for the most part of to dress the business part.
    When it comes to nightlife and outgoing setting I keep it cool.
    A nice plaid shirt or fitted T, some scruff, and ready to smash.
    Never fails.

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    That said, I met my girlfriend under the prettyboy style and she has grown to love the scruff + 'manly' look better. In fact, when I am cleanly shaven she purposely tells me she likes it with some scruff.
    Problem with a metro dude is that he knows he's metro and to me that is weakness. It takes a real bro to pull of some GQ over-the-top metro chit.

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    Originally Posted by saint sinner x View Post
    Has anyone ever notices girls dates the pretty boys but they phuck the rugged guys. Also, alot of girls usually of ages 19+ finds the rugged look very attractive and disregards the metrosexuals. Does it have to do with evolutionary biology or is it a social construct???
    There is a lot of evidence that women go for metro type guys as long term partners, but pick more masculine guys for flings.

    There was a big study done here where women on nights out were questioned about where abouts in there menstrual cycle they were, which photo of a man they found most attractive, and they had a full body photo done. The photos of men they picked from were either rugged masculine types or less masculine pretty boys, and the photos of them were digitally analysed to determine what percentage of their bodies they were displaying.

    Right around ovulation, there was a spike in the preference for hunky-testosterone types, and also in the amount of flesh they were showing.
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    I like to keep a good medium.

    I have callouses on my hands, don't dress up for 2 hours before going out, have a deep voice, and usually like some stubble .... but I also dress well, keep groomed for the most part, and due to working in an office in a metropolitan city I also need to dress the part professionally.

    Dudes that wear earrings, get hair cuts every 2 weeks, and spend an hour getting dressed are mad weak though.
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    Originally Posted by saint sinner x View Post
    Has anyone ever notices girls dates the pretty boys but they phuck the rugged guys. Also, alot of girls usually of ages 19+ finds the rugged look very attractive and disregards the metrosexuals. Does it have to do with evolutionary biology or is it a social construct???
    I am like the pretty boy/rugged boy. Kind of scruffy at times, scrappy, and yet, got bitches mirrin my looks + aesthetics & genius. They be mirrin hard. I think it has a lot to do with men all wanting to be pretty boys. No hate at Zyzz. I think the kid is a joker and its pretty epic the **** he puts out there. Still, he doesn't quite strike me of a man's man type of guy. As I've said before, the role of the man today is skewed, and I think guys are quite uncertain. Women are bread winners now a days. They want power, want to be acknowledge, and a lot want to whore around plus, be the man. Even if bitch wears the pants, she will still bitch, complain, and tell you her issues. Even worse, if you listen to that kind of non-sense, in no time, she will start coming @ you bro SRS.

    To end off, I deem it to be everyone wanting to be a pretty boy these days, and have bitches mirrin your aesthetics, looks, and genius. Males are confused, unsure how to act with the change and shift in femininity. The margin of error and line for "equality" is different. I think regardless of your looks and what have you, just need to plant your seed, not pedestal bitches nor follow society and its expectation for a man. Still, you will feel consequences if you go against these expectations and gender roles.

    Update: Despite popular belief, women, the sluts, whores, and "good girl" all go slumming sooner or later. This is life. Get use to it. The scruffy rugged look is attractive cause it falls in line with not giving a **** or trying to be a pretty boy. I am again somewhere in between. There will always be guys like David Beckham or Cristiano Ronaldo or others who get the vag wet from just their looks alone. Other chicks like bad boy types like Tommy Lee or Russell Brand (another guy who apparently crushes vagina but, is far from a mans man).
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    Originally Posted by saint sinner x View Post
    Has anyone ever notices girls dates the pretty boys but they phuck the rugged guys. Also, alot of girls usually of ages 19+ finds the rugged look very attractive and disregards the metrosexuals. Does it have to do with evolutionary biology or is it a social construct???
    I disagree 100%.

    The only time it is "pretty boy" vs "rugged" is in a chick's own personal preferences to what she's physically attracted too.

    With that being said, you're making it very 'black/white.' I have characteristics of "pretty boy" in terms of physicality: long hair, no facial hair, nice clothing, etc.

    But I have a "ruggedness" in terms of my personality. I carry an 'edge' to my style, yet I am polite without being a dick. With that being said, there is an 'edge' to my personality as well that can be linked to "rugged."

    So I think in terms of personality or whatnot, sure. Physicality? I beg to differ.
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    Originally Posted by CelticBhoy View Post
    I disagree 100%.

    The only time it is "pretty boy" vs "rugged" is in a chick's own personal preferences to what she's physically attracted too.

    With that being said, you're making it very 'black/white.' I have characteristics of "pretty boy" in terms of physicality: long hair, no facial hair, nice clothing, etc.

    But I have a "ruggedness" in terms of my personality. I carry an 'edge' to my style, yet I am polite without being a dick. With that being said, there is an 'edge' to my personality as well that can be linked to "rugged."

    So I think in terms of personality or whatnot, sure. Physicality? I beg to differ.
    I am leaning more towards this. Also, girls like to box you into fitting into some category of theirs and I wont have it. As for chicks and ****ing, bitches are wet seeing someone good looking, pretty boy type, and its usually going slumming when its the rugged type but, she is still turned on by him.
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    Originally Posted by CelticBhoy View Post
    I disagree 100%.

    The only time it is "pretty boy" vs "rugged" is in a chick's own personal preferences to what she's physically attracted too.

    With that being said, you're making it very 'black/white.' I have characteristics of "pretty boy" in terms of physicality: long hair, no facial hair, nice clothing, etc.

    But I have a "ruggedness" in terms of my personality. I carry an 'edge' to my style, yet I am polite without being a dick. With that being said, there is an 'edge' to my personality as well that can be linked to "rugged."

    So I think in terms of personality or whatnot, sure. Physicality? I beg to differ.
    i personally think its one or the other. although i clean up nice and can pull off a versace suit no part of me is "pretty boyish". i wear the same jeans for weeks at a time and a black labeless t-shirt most every day of my life. im lucky to shave once a week if not every other week and i wear my converse or danners til they need to be re-soled (sp?).

    however i smell awesome. take huge pride in the way i smell. everything else is dgaf but a guy just cant smell bad. especially if he works out up to 6hrs a day.

    youre either rugged or youre not. theres also sloppy but thats in a class its own.
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    when i met my GF i was very much a pretty boy

    i had no facial hair, was getting my haircut every 13days
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    now i have a beard, occasionally get my hair cut
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    she said the initial pretty boy thing was attractive, and i looked hot. But now i look like a man, and it turns her on more than when i was a pretty boy
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    i fuked a polish girl in carnaval for one week, i was 21 or 22 and she was 25 and she liked pretty boys.

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    I depend entriely on women who are attracted to rugged rather than pretty boys.

    I have a face like a bag of builders tools - complete with several visible scars from a road accident. My hair has a personality disorder all of it's own, and I have the dress sense of a computer programmer from the 1980's.

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    I think I'll always be that pretty boy.

    I can grow facial hair, but I keep myself clean cut all the time. Nice clothes, nice jeans, well groomed hair, good clean skin, and well-shaven.

    I take good care of myself because I don't like looking like a slob. If I wanted to attract a women, I sure as hell want them to keep up to par.

    Now, I'm not all feminine about it, I just like to look good when I go out. Wearing sweats and an old t-shirt doesn't make me feel confident.
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    Originally Posted by beaucephus View Post
    i personally think its one or the other. although i clean up nice and can pull off a versace suit no part of me is "pretty boyish". i wear the same jeans for weeks at a time and a black labeless t-shirt most every day of my life. im lucky to shave once a week if not every other week and i wear my converse or danners til they need to be re-soled (sp?).

    however i smell awesome. take huge pride in the way i smell. everything else is dgaf but a guy just cant smell bad. especially if he works out up to 6hrs a day.

    youre either rugged or youre not. theres also sloppy but thats in a class its own.
    Explain how you wear the same jeans for weeks at a time and yet always smell good?

    Does not compute.
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    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    Explain how you wear the same jeans for weeks at a time and yet always smell good?

    Does not compute.
    I only own one pair of jeans, srs. They never smell, wash them once every two months or so.
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    I have jeans that i haven't washed in 3 years, which was when i bought them.
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    Originally Posted by jimbong View Post
    I only own one pair of jeans, srs. They never smell, wash them once every two months or so.
    Same.
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    I only own one pair of jeans, srs. They never smell, wash them once every two months or so.
    this. I wash them and let them air dry every couple months. Smells good but i have a good natural smell (or at least thats what ive been told). Couple this with some axe and a jpg or g u c c i cologne and bishes be rubbin up on me like crazy.
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    What if you're both?
    I coordinate my sht, rock business casual or vintage rocker outfits, will wear fruity shades (see avi) and have gauges, have lots of tats, but not in visible places, and I hate when my hair isn't "just right", but it is always a messy spikey look. I also rock scruff and can't deal w being all smoothly shaven.

    My attitude is neither, it's "if you like me come party, if you don't gtfo".

    A lot of my friends are "both" as well. They rock designer high end sht, meticulously groomed hair/facial hair, cologne, coordinated outfits to a T... but have scruff, hella piercings and tats, and some are pretty huge. They all do incredibly well with women.

    I dunno, I never really analyzed it, tbh. If you think about it, it's all subjective. Retarded platinum blonde orange girls w fake tits will cream over tribal sleeves, 19" biceps, and douchebag faux hawks. A bookworm girl would most likely never even TALK to a guy like that... so its really just personal taste.

    I wouldn't say "either" does better with women - but I agree that the general biological standpoint is fuk the "bad boy" (whatever that is) and date the guy you can bring home to mom.
    As most guys ITT will tell you, the pretty boy ends up showing his "bad" side in time, and the girl loves having a mix of the two.
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    Some one define what they think "rugged" is...I think I understand pretty boy, is rugged like John Cena?

    Back in the day...eeerrrr, Clint Eastwood (Hang em High) was the essence of a sexy rugged man....am I in sync here?
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    I usually dress nice and have a baby face, but I am raunchy as ****. I usually just wear something that shows off my guns. My best results are when I am getting freaking sloshed and trying to **** everything hot with a vagina. I think I am mostly pretty boy, but with a serious edge.
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    since when are tattoos "rugged?" I know plenty of skinny t_erds with infinite tattoos and don't pull any vaj
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    WTF at all you brahs wearing jeans for 2 months without washing them.

    How in the world do they not smell. I am usually real big on smelling good as well (shower everyday, subtle cologne when going out, always keep gum/mints on me) but after I wear the same pair of jeans for 3 or 4 days they start to get that "dirty laundry" smell.

    In the winter I could see getting away with a couple weeks.... I've done that, but in the summer no fcking way you can rock the same pair for 2 months and have it not smell. I think maybe you guys are just used to the smell so don't notice it.

    My workout partner is the same way. Dude goes a month before washing his jeans, or will wear the same workout clothes for a week and the dude smells like ass. I always give him sh!t. I'm not sure how his wife puts up with it.
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    Originally Posted by DeBaie View Post
    I work in an office so for the most part of to dress the business part.
    When it comes to nightlife and outgoing setting I keep it cool.
    A nice plaid shirt or fitted T, some scruff, and ready to smash.
    Never fails.

    *Edit.
    That said, I met my girlfriend under the prettyboy style and she has grown to love the scruff + 'manly' look better. In fact, when I am cleanly shaven she purposely tells me she likes it with some scruff.
    Problem with a metro dude is that he knows he's metro and to me that is weakness. It takes a real bro to pull of some GQ over-the-top metro chit.

    When you're out in a social setting - especially in a metropolitan area such as Miami, NY, Toronto, etc. - you don't want to come across as a phag bro. Real chicks and dudes can't take extreme metros serious.
    There are little signs that you're a alpha like the ruggedness, Chuck Taylor's, watch, etc.

    Very interesting, but it seems like masculinity is a dying breed for the manly rugged men. Too many homos are acting like emotional phaggots.


    Originally Posted by MajorTwang View Post
    There is a lot of evidence that women go for metro type guys as long term partners, but pick more masculine guys for flings.

    There was a big study done here where women on nights out were questioned about where abouts in there menstrual cycle they were, which photo of a man they found most attractive, and they had a full body photo done. The photos of men they picked from were either rugged masculine types or less masculine pretty boys, and the photos of them were digitally analysed to determine what percentage of their bodies they were displaying.

    Right around ovulation, there was a spike in the preference for hunky-testosterone types, and also in the amount of flesh they were showing.
    You mean this one?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...050665030.html

    and this one:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15016293

    and this one..

    http://www.livescience.com/9487-wome...es-flings.html

    and this one:

    http://news.***.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4261489.stm

    I don't give a damn what women thinks of pretty boys I will never stop being rugged, RUGGED is alpha.



    Originally Posted by DTRrex View Post
    I like to keep a good medium.

    I have callouses on my hands, don't dress up for 2 hours before going out, have a deep voice, and usually like some stubble .... but I also dress well, keep groomed for the most part, and due to working in an office in a metropolitan city I also need to dress the part professionally.

    Dudes that wear earrings, get hair cuts every 2 weeks, and spend an hour getting dressed are mad weak though.

    I agree most people sees them as vain, insecure and superficial, and vanity and looking pretty are all feminine characteristics..


    Originally Posted by jamestown0101 View Post
    I am like the pretty boy/rugged boy. Kind of scruffy at times, scrappy, and yet, got bitches mirrin my looks + aesthetics & genius. They be mirrin hard. I think it has a lot to do with men all wanting to be pretty boys. No hate at Zyzz. I think the kid is a joker and its pretty epic the **** he puts out there. Still, he doesn't quite strike me of a man's man type of guy. As I've said before, the role of the man today is skewed, and I think guys are quite uncertain. Women are bread winners now a days. They want power, want to be acknowledge, and a lot want to whore around plus, be the man. Even if bitch wears the pants, she will still bitch, complain, and tell you her issues. Even worse, if you listen to that kind of non-sense, in no time, she will start coming @ you bro SRS.

    To end off, I deem it to be everyone wanting to be a pretty boy these days, and have bitches mirrin your aesthetics, looks, and genius. Males are confused, unsure how to act with the change and shift in femininity. The margin of error and line for "equality" is different. I think regardless of your looks and what have you, just need to plant your seed, not pedestal bitches nor follow society and its expectation for a man. Still, you will feel consequences if you go against these expectations and gender roles.

    Update: Despite popular belief, women, the sluts, whores, and "good girl" all go slumming sooner or later. This is life. Get use to it. The scruffy rugged look is attractive cause it falls in line with not giving a **** or trying to be a pretty boy. I am again somewhere in between. There will always be guys like David Beckham or Cristiano Ronaldo or others who get the vag wet from just their looks alone. Other chicks like bad boy types like Tommy Lee or Russell Brand (another guy who apparently crushes vagina but, is far from a mans man).

    I still don't see why girls want to date guys that mirrors them, that's like us men wanting to date a chick with a masculine face and short hair. Restoration is attracted to estrogen and vice versa there should always be a balance.

    Originally Posted by CelticBhoy View Post
    I disagree 100%.

    The only time it is "pretty boy" vs "rugged" is in a chick's own personal preferences to what she's physically attracted too.

    With that being said, you're making it very 'black/white.' I have characteristics of "pretty boy" in terms of physicality: long hair, no facial hair, nice clothing, etc.

    But I have a "ruggedness" in terms of my personality. I carry an 'edge' to my style, yet I am polite without being a dick. With that being said, there is an 'edge' to my personality as well that can be linked to "rugged."

    So I think in terms of personality or whatnot, sure. Physicality? I beg to differ.

    I see, but were talking about solely on looks since females judges a mans personality based on how he looks. They see rugged they think bad ass they see pretty they think caring and loving..


    Originally Posted by jamestown0101 View Post
    I am leaning more towards this. Also, girls like to box you into fitting into some category of theirs and I wont have it. As for chicks and ****ing, bitches are wet seeing someone good looking, pretty boy type, and its usually going slumming when its the rugged type but, she is still turned on by him.
    Many chicks goes with the rugged guys for short term flings and so forth, we are the more dominating lol.

    Originally Posted by beaucephus View Post
    i personally think its one or the other. although i clean up nice and can pull off a versace suit no part of me is "pretty boyish". i wear the same jeans for weeks at a time and a black labeless t-shirt most every day of my life. im lucky to shave once a week if not every other week and i wear my converse or danners til they need to be re-soled (sp?).

    however i smell awesome. take huge pride in the way i smell. everything else is dgaf but a guy just cant smell bad. especially if he works out up to 6hrs a day.

    youre either rugged or youre not. theres also sloppy but thats in a class its own.

    I agree, however no man whether rugged or not should be smelling like garbage at any age.
    Nothing wrong with looking ruggedly handsome and smelling fresh or masculine.


    Originally Posted by Dennis71 View Post
    when i met my GF i was very much a pretty boy

    i had no facial hair, was getting my haircut every 13days
    shaved my arms and legs
    wore short shorts
    tanned
    etc



    now i have a beard, occasionally get my hair cut
    dont shave arms of legs
    i have like 12 tattoos now


    she said the initial pretty boy thing was attractive, and i looked hot. But now i look like a man, and it turns her on more than when i was a pretty boy
    Good. Rugged wins by strong margins IMO (no homo)






    Originally Posted by Bracket199 View Post
    I think I'll always be that pretty boy.

    I can grow facial hair, but I keep myself clean cut all the time. Nice clothes, nice jeans, well groomed hair, good clean skin, and well-shaven.

    I take good care of myself because I don't like looking like a slob. If I wanted to attract a women, I sure as hell want them to keep up to par.

    Now, I'm not all feminine about it, I just like to look good when I go out. Wearing sweats and an old t-shirt doesn't make me feel confident.
    Nothing wrong with that, but they'd stereotype you based on how you look and what you do hence looking feminine= being feminine...


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    Originally Posted by janky View Post
    What if you're both?
    I coordinate my sht, rock business casual or vintage rocker outfits, will wear fruity shades (see avi) and have gauges, have lots of tats, but not in visible places, and I hate when my hair isn't "just right", but it is always a messy spikey look. I also rock scruff and can't deal w being all smoothly shaven.

    My attitude is neither, it's "if you like me come party, if you don't gtfo".

    A lot of my friends are "both" as well. They rock designer high end sht, meticulously groomed hair/facial hair, cologne, coordinated outfits to a T... but have scruff, hella piercings and tats, and some are pretty huge. They all do incredibly well with women.

    I dunno, I never really analyzed it, tbh. If you think about it, it's all subjective. Retarded platinum blonde orange girls w fake tits will cream over tribal sleeves, 19" biceps, and douchebag faux hawks. A bookworm girl would most likely never even TALK to a guy like that... so its really just personal taste.

    I wouldn't say "either" does better with women - but I agree that the general biological standpoint is fuk the "bad boy" (whatever that is) and date the guy you can bring home to mom.
    As most guys ITT will tell you, the pretty boy ends up showing his "bad" side in time, and the girl loves having a mix of the two.

    Likewise, I have alot of friends who are jacked up with tattoos and permanent five o clock shadows they attract alot of rowdy aggressive chicks though, and good girls as well...


    Originally Posted by mydawgs View Post
    Some one define what they think "rugged" is...I think I understand pretty boy, is rugged like John Cena?

    Back in the day...eeerrrr, Clint Eastwood (Hang em High) was the essence of a sexy rugged man....am I in sync here?
    Examples of rugged men:











    Looking rugged is universal accepted as:

    tanned skin
    tattoos
    permanent five o clock shadow
    in physical shape
    masculine facial features

    Pretty much men who looks like they can handle their own and kick ass if needed to...
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    Originally Posted by saint sinner x View Post
    Has anyone ever notices girls dates the pretty boys but they phuck the rugged guys. Also, alot of girls usually of ages 19+ finds the rugged look very attractive and disregards the metrosexuals. Does it have to do with evolutionary biology or is it a social construct???
    Personally I think it has to do with the evolution of what men are brought up around and women are brought up seeing men as, the media has portrayed more "pretty boys" as the most attractive recently (such as ryan reynolds, zac efron, etc), which could contribute to women thinking thats more attractive, atleast younger women. as opposed to a decade or so ago when the more rugged type was more attractive because so was masculanity, stupid media has changed this. Personally ive never been into pretty boys, have always preferred the rugged type.
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    Originally Posted by Caesar735 View Post
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    It doesn't matter how you look, it matters how you act

    Mind=blown



    Brb I dont shave so girls will want to fukc me
    Or
    Brb I dress like a homo so girls will want to fukc me

    Either way is irrelevant
    Are you saying that you dress like a homo Caesar and still get girls? But keyword here...homo?

    I always thought you had more of that badass attitude.
    I don't care if you're black, white, straight, bisexual, gay, lesbian, short, tall, skinny, rich or poor. If you're nice to me, I'll be nice to you. Simple as that. - Eminem

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