Muscle growing and losing fat, Thanks intermitent fasting for existing

[bertstriated]

damn redheadlaw you made some clean gainz and lost alot of fat now your a hottie bro did you use IF for that

[redheadlaw7]

damn redheadlaw you made some clean gainz and lost alot of fat now your a hottie bro did you use IF for that

Hmmm...do I sense a lil bit of sarcasm? lol. I used IF for getting more cut when my body wasn't cooperating for my third show in a matter of weeks. I'm plumping up for a month or two and will go right back to IFing for the 3 shows I'll be doing at the end of the summer. And yeah...make fun of me being pudgy now. Bastards. lol.

[ACH1LLES]

down 20 lbs so far this summer feels good man

[ThatRussianDude]

metabolism slows, sure. But I have been IF for 6 weeks now and strength has went up in shoulders and back exercises. Working to this point.

Any questions fire away...

This. My back gets so strong. Chest not so much from this.

[reynaldooo]

so basically the warriors diet, but a different name

fast all day eat one meal

do it all over again

not really.

warrior diet has you eating different shyt. IF has you eating the standard whole foods (high protein, moderate carbs, low fats, etc) but you only eat in a certain time frame. so instead of eating from 5 am to 9 pm, you only eat within 8 hours. thats my understanding from it.

[bertstriated]

Hmmm...do I sense a lil bit of sarcasm? lol. I used IF for getting more cut when my body wasn't cooperating for my third show in a matter of weeks. I'm plumping up for a month or two and will go right back to IFing for the 3 shows I'll be doing at the end of the summer. And yeah...make fun of me being pudgy now. Bastards. lol.

no sarcasm mirin dedication

[Archanic]

I go for 12-16 hours without eating anything, eat a simple small breakfast consisting of cottage cheese (casein), go to school, then i real meal mid-day and i dont eat until its time for breakfast again.

Wouldnt your cortisol levels be all over the place that way, muscle wasting, catabolic, etc.? Also arnt you hungery cuzz?

I'm eating 6 times a day right now, and recomping very nicely.

[kratosbrah]

Hmmm...do I sense a lil bit of sarcasm? lol. I used IF for getting more cut when my body wasn't cooperating for my third show in a matter of weeks. I'm plumping up for a month or two and will go right back to IFing for the 3 shows I'll be doing at the end of the summer. And yeah...make fun of me being pudgy now. Bastards. lol.

shutup fatty

[redheadlaw7]

Wouldnt your cortisol levels be all over the place that way, muscle wasting, catabolic, etc.? Also arnt you hungery cuzz?

I'm eating 6 times a day right now, and recomping very nicely.

I was just reading something from Lyle that says that optimal meal separation is five hours because it makes your body more receptive to the protein. If you keep bombarding it constantly there is less synthesis...I think.

EDIT:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ass-gains.html

[fattony7891]

anyone ever bulked using the same principles but with higher calories??

[Archanic]

I was just reading something from Lyle that says that optimal meal separation is five hours because it makes your body more receptive to the protein. If you keep bombarding it constantly there is less synthesis...I think.

Could very well be. Now I eat meals 1, 2, 3, three hours apart, post workout shake is taken an hour before dinner (heaviest meal of the day) and then dont eat again for 5 hours an hour before bed.

[kebab69]

aware me on this intermittent fasting ?? dont give me a link jst provide cliffs

[Archanic]

EDIT:

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ass-gains.html

no white knight, but this looks like a really good read, just skimmed a little and like what I see so far. Bookmarking for when I have time to read it more in depth

[djo90]

I love when people say this, "OMG I AM GAINING MUSCLE AND LOSING FAT LOL, BEST DIET EVARRR..."

how exactly can you prove that you're gaining muscle and losing fat? lmao.

[Irishpandah]

Thinking of doing this. Do i have to workout on an empty stomach tho or can I start eating at 10 am and stop at 6 pm with a workout thrown in the middle???

Will rep for answers!

Sample setup

12-1 PM or around lunch/noon: Pre-workout meal. Approximately 20-25% of daily total calorie intake.
3-4 PM: Training should happen a few hours after the pre-workout meal.
4-5 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal).
8-9 PM: Last meal before the fast.

[kebab69]

I love when people say this, "OMG I AM GAINING MUSCLE AND LOSING FAT LOL, BEST DIET EVARRR..."

how exactly can you prove that you're gaining muscle and losing fat? lmao.

i think what they mean is that when they lose fat their muscles look bigger which leads them to believe they are getting bigger even though they appear to be bigger due to the fact that fat loss has occured

[Khainpride]

Hi, I am 225 lbs, i know how to lose weight the normal way.. ( cardio + lift+ proper nutrition).

I dont get this... the sample diet on his website is basically what i do. Maybe you can ans this for me.

For his sample diet:
Sample setup

11.30-12 AM or 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA
12-1 PM: Training
1 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal of the day).
4 PM: Second meal.
9 PM: Last meal before the fast.

Are you supposed to wake up @ 6~8 am? or can I just wake up @ 11AM and get ready for the gym @ around 11:45 am and ingest my BCAA, basically follow the sample format?

Another question... where would cardio fit in this?

another question... ( haha) how about non lifting days? replace the time slot of training with cardio?

[bobcat11]

Can I take whey powder instead of BCAA powder after my 7 am workout but before my feeding phase, or would this not work?

[Cloudstryfe]

you have to be in a deficit to lose weight period this isnt a miracle diet lol

[omgwtfisgoinnon]

you have to be in a deficit to lose weight period this isnt a miracle diet lol

again u are in a deficit. the only difference being that you eat one large meal that makes up a bulk of ur calories in the evening/night...u still snack during the day and get ur protein from shakes n what not.. so u def aren't depriving ur body...just adjusting the quantity/timing of ur meals...

[Icicle]

in b4 broscientists and their slowing down metabolism broscience

[NotSureIfCereal]

lost 15 pounds with IF, i want to start an EC stack tomorrow, would these two together be a bad idea?

[redheadlaw7]

Btw...the main benefit of this way of eating is that IF is more muscle sparing than restricted calories spread out. It's been proven that it's better than caloric restriction. It's NOT a bulking diet.

[Yank11]

Hi, I am 225 lbs, i know how to lose weight the normal way.. ( cardio + lift+ proper nutrition).

I dont get this... the sample diet on his website is basically what i do. Maybe you can ans this for me.

For his sample diet:
Sample setup

11.30-12 AM or 5-15 minutes pre-workout: 10 g BCAA
12-1 PM: Training
1 PM: Post-workout meal (largest meal of the day).
4 PM: Second meal.
9 PM: Last meal before the fast.

Are you supposed to wake up @ 6~8 am? or can I just wake up @ 11AM and get ready for the gym @ around 11:45 am and ingest my BCAA, basically follow the sample format?

Another question... where would cardio fit in this?

another question... ( haha) how about non lifting days? replace the time slot of training with cardio?

what time you wake up doesn't matter from what I've read.

He suggests to do cardio whenever you want, but says that doing it during fasting period to keep yourself active is handy, meaning you aren't eating

just leave out the training spot altogether. you can do cardio if you want too, but probably wouldn't want to eat a huge meal before cardio. He says that on non training days to eat your biggest meal as the meal you break the fast with, but its not important, just eat whenever during the feeding period.

also, all these answers are from the link posted itt
http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html



i've been IFing since 175 lbs down to about 163 now.
Wake up at 8:30, have a cup of coffee, go to class until 12:30. Come home and misc until 1pm. go to gym. Come back and eat big postwork out meal around 2:15 then do whatever for the day, snacking in the process. Eat a big dinner around 6/7pm, fill out whatever calories are left around 8 and start fast at 9pm

[KingOfChaos]

IF'ing for a month now, down 37 lbs.

[Icicle]

RHL, can you swim?

[jmcdizzle44]

Nice bro keep up the good work

[Zaneseed]

IF'ing doesn't offer a massive range of physiological benefits, for the most part (speaking broadly here) the benefits are behavioral.

If you're cutting on low calories and are sick of feeling hungry all the time, IF can help with that by eliminating the hunger problem (by elevating the hormone ghrelin).During low bf%, it helped me keep sane by allowing me the luxury of larger meals (thereby feeling more satiated) instead of eating regular tiny meals that just make me hungrier. Both routes of IF and regular small meals work in terms of body composition, but I recommend IF if you have trouble dealing with hunger.

Or if somebody has a busy work/other schedule that doesn't allow them the luxury of regular meals, it will work great.

Point is, this is a very effective and simple way to achieve your goals. I use it come contest prep time. It's just one of the many ways to skin the proverbial cat when it comes to nutrition

[kebABS]

I plan on doing this during Ramadan this year(Muslim month of fasting - no food/water from sunrise to sunset). I'll make a thread on it when I'm done.

[arkskier]

Yeh shoot me a pm and I will hit you up with the basics... reading another thread at the moment may take a minute or so to reply

can you tell me if i understand this right? in that 8-hour window, there is no caloric ceiling, so you can eat anything in any amount? or am i wrong? im thinking of doing something like IF, but maybe 15/9, and without BCAA. does this look good:

9am - milk
9am-1030 ; workout

11 am - lunch, chicken breast and veggies
3pm - chicken and veggies
6 pm - chicken and veggies

can i do this for 2 weeks? how long can i do this without dying?