If meal timing is irrelevant, then how do you explain....

[frankinthetank]

Caffeine.

Many prominent posters in this Nutrition forum state that they consume coffee pre-workout, namely PBatemen (not calling Bateman out, dude is a beast, i just remember him liking "Folgers")

I started to drink coffee cause this section taught me that NO Explode and other Supp's are really not needed. Within 20 -30 minutes of consuming caffeine, I feel awake and ready to pump iron. No complaining.

So if your body feels the effect of caffeine in 30 minutes, why dont you gain anything from drinking a Post work out shake? I mean, both are taken orally, both go down your throat and both end up in your stomach. Why does the body go thru caffeine fast, but not protein?

My guess is that protein is somehow digested differently than caffenine, but it still doesnt make sence cause how does the stomach discriminate against digesting protein untill later, but caffeine gets pushed thru my vains in a short amount of time?

I know the IIFIYM is the most important thing, dont disagree with that. Just wondering.I read SOME of the stickies but didnt find answer, and I dont have SEARCh functionality here at work.

Thanks for any responces, Also, thanks to Alan Aragon. I think its cool how he has all this knoledge that he shares with us here on BB.com free!! It would be awesome for him to respond to this post.

CLiff's
1) Difference in protein and caffeine digestion?
2)PBateman is a beast!
3)Fits inyour macros is most important
4)Aragon is awesome

[ErickStevens]

Wow.

[FunkymonkAW]

Caffeine isn't food.

[frankinthetank]

Caffeine isn't food.

I know but "I mean, both are taken orally, both go down your throat and both end up in your stomach. Why does the body go thru caffeine fast, but not protein?"

Sorry, im really new to this

[juliacheh]

lolwut?

Caffeine is a stimulant, i take it pre-fasted cardio to give me a boost.
It has nothing to do with nutrient/meal timing.

[frankinthetank]

lolwut?

Caffeine is a stimulant, i take it pre-fasted cardio to give me a boost.
It has nothing to do with nutrient/meal timing.

i understand, but it still ends up in your stomach with your previous meal

[phal]

^_^v

[adean1989]

I know but "I mean, both are taken orally, both go down your throat and both end up in your stomach. Why does the body go thru caffeine fast, but not protein?"

Sorry, im really new to this

Let's assume for a moment both were digested and metabolised at the same rate. Do you think your body will immediately assimilate this protein in the form of skeletal muscle? Or that should this "window" of opportunity not be taken said assimilation would be significantly affected?

[jst1225]

caffeine is a DRUG that induces pharmacological effects on the body, protien is FOOD/NUTRIENT that the body digests and uses for energy; they are not digested or broken down the same way.

[schismatik]

is this real life?

[sweethunibabi]

Caffeine affects the central nervous system and enters your bloodstream. It is a DRUG, not a food. It supplies no calories in its purest form.

[frankinthetank]

Let's assume for a moment both were digested and metabolised at the same rate. Do you think your body will immediately assimilate this protein in the form of skeletal muscle? Or that should this "window" of opportunity not be taken said assimilation would be significantly affected?

Im extremely new to nutrition, not sure what you asked

Sorry,

[frankinthetank]

caffeine is a DRUG that induces pharmacological effects on the body, protien is FOOD/NUTRIENT that the body digests and uses for energy; they are not digested or broken down the same way.

Thanks, clears it up a bit, appreciated

[frankinthetank]

Caffeine affects the central nervous system and enters your bloodstream. It is a DRUG, not a food. It supplies no calories in its purest form.

Awesome, thanks, when i figure out how to REp, will do

[phal]

Just for future reference, to multi quote, click the button next to QUOTE on (all) the posts you wish to select - then hit reply.

[l2ambo]

[pretend]

By your logic, if I snort a line of whey my muscles would be visibly larger within 5 minutes.

Hmm... brb

[frankinthetank]

By your logic, if I snort a line of whey my muscles would be visibly larger within 5 minutes.

Hmm... brb

??WTF??

Not sure what your getting at. Never said anything about muscle growth, never mentioned nasal iduction, just about caffeine and protein digestion,

[frankinthetank]

By your logic, if I snort a line of whey my muscles would be visibly larger within 5 minutes.

Hmm... brb

If you are refering to the line about caffeine being pushed thru my veins, not sure, just hear co workers say that alot, notsrs

[OliFresh]

Here we go again..

[Shrederator]

caffeine =/= meal or food

If meal timing is irrelevant... why do Pbateman drink water sometimes?

/thrad.

[Rambo26]

Stimulant timing is relevant

[Shrederator]

Stimulant timing is relevant

That it is.

Ever taken a stim shortly before bed?

feelsbadman.

[frankinthetank]

Stimulant timing is relevant

That it is.

Ever taken a stim shortly before bed?

feelsbadman.

OHH, meal (protein) not relevant, Caffeine (stimulant) can be relevant
Thanks, not sure why most people in this forum have great info, yet seem to want to start arguments rather than educate those of us who are noobs.

[feelsg00dmayne]

LOL.

OP thinks he made the scientific breakthrough of the century.



supp section that way bro -->

[Shrederator]

OHH, meal (protein) not relevant, Caffeine (stimulant) can be relevant
Thanks, not sure why most people in this forum have great info, yet seem to want to start arguments rather than educate those of us who are noobs.

Well... basically, you asked in a way that could be deemed confrontational.

Not to mention the fact that caffeine is a drug and not a food, therefore, cannot be considered a meal. People like to jump on ish like that... such as myself.

[Lvisaa2]

OHH, meal (protein) not relevant, Caffeine (stimulant) can be relevant
Thanks, not sure why most people in this forum have great info, yet seem to want to start arguments rather than educate those of us who are noobs.

Because this question doesn't make any logical sense. The digestion of food and caffeine has no relation. The reason that meal timing is irrelevant is that it will make little difference on body composition when you get your food as long as you hit your macros. Why digestion of caffeine even came up is beyond me as how quickly something digests has no effect on the previously mentioned principle.

[Cumulonimbus]

OP just went full retard with the context of this thread and his grammar.

I suggest you take a break from work and go back to school.

[frankinthetank]

Because this question doesn't make any logical sense. The digestion of food and caffeine has no relation. The reason that meal timing is irrelevant is that it will make little difference on body composition when you get your food as long as you hit your macros. Why digestion of caffeine even came up is beyond me as how quickly something digests has no effect on the previously mentioned principle.

Well, im my original post, i stated "My guess is that protein is somehow digested differently than caffenine," i just wasnt sure, its just that both protein and caffeine end up inyour stomach and was not sure why i felt caffeine right away.

Thanks

OP just went full retard with the context of this thread and his grammar.

I suggest you take a break from work and go back to school.

Yes, ive mispelled many things, and probably will. Currently doing this and a few other projects, no time to proof read. But I did just receive my second bachelors degree, not sure if Im going for masters, thanks for the suggestion.

[FunkMasterPhil]

CLiff's
2)PBateman is a beast!
4)Aragon is awesome

strong rep beg