***The 2011 NHL Off Season Discussion Thread***

[VTheKing]

Would lol at the Red Wings if they acquired him. I don't think adding age to their team is a top priority right now.

I don't think age matters when dealing with Jagr.

[GingerBrah]

Jagr loved playing with hempsky at the worlds. To bad the oilers arnt on that list. He wants a contender tho.. Fair enough

[Bollock-chops]

Jagr loved playing with hempsky at the worlds. To bad the oilers arnt on that list. He wants a contender tho.. Fair enough

It will be interesting to see how good those two finnish guys are you just signed.

[Ralph Wiggum]

he has a full NMC and is signed thru 2020 @ $7.7 mil/year...luongo has a NTC and is signed thru 2022.

honestly i don't think the canucks are looking to move luongo and i don't the lightning are looking to move vinny. this is simply vancouver fans pissed off about the finals and wanting to see luongo gone. but they know that he has an insane contract, so he has to be traded for an equally insane contract on a team that needs a goalie. and vinny fits the bill. if philly hadn't traded for bryzgalov's rights then the rumor would be jeff carter.

I hate Carter and think that would be a terrible trade for the Flyers.

potentially if he remains a 30/30 guy. but also a chance toward the end you'll be paying for a guy that isn't a top scorer anymore...that's the risk/reward of those super long contracts.

and of course we are assuming no major changes to the system in the new cba and that the cap keeps going up...by 2022 we could have 4 new cbas by then.

Carter will be a 30/30 guy for many years to come considering he gets 2/3 of his goals in garbage time.

[thegenerel]

has there been any sort of chatter re: swapping Vinny for Luongo?

[moto46]

Knew they would all blame luo, while the twins will slip outa town unnoticed just like in the playoffs. Thats a major problem, when the captain is awol.

[Darthn3ss]

Knew they would all blame luo, while the twins will slip outa town unnoticed just like in the playoffs. Thats a major problem, when the captain is awol.

why would canada's team even allow a foreigner to be captain?

should've never taken the captaincy from luo.



i just hope kesler can get traded or something to a team with a chance.

[moto46]

Canadas team has a canadian captain... right now hes in pei.

[nyr469]

goddammit...larry brooks says the rangers can't buyout chris drury because he is injured. and will most likely miss the season (ending his career likely).

the rangers can put him on LTIR and go over the cap but you don't gain anything from LTIR unless you are over the cap

[nyr469]

Oiler fan checking in...
Who you guys think we should take with the #1 pick??


I'm hoping for Nugent-Hopkins.

oilers are going to take RNH and it'll be a great pick for them...larsson and landkesog will be real good too. but in a year or 2, RNH and Hall will be a heck of a combo

[Darthn3ss]

Any other caps fans unbury themselves from the sand yet?

I hope GMGM makes some moves this summer, instead of insisting that the current roster is okay. For starters, Jeff Schultz needs to go.


Alzner - Carlson
Hannan - Green
Wideman/Poti(if he returns?)/The Orlov/Erskine

I'd like to see them move Alex Semin, thank **** he doesn't have a retarded contract.....

Semin+ for Kesler? yes pls.

[LVI]

oilers are going to take RNH and it'll be a great pick for them...larsson and landkesog will be real good too. but in a year or 2, RNH and Hall will be a heck of a combo

Thats who it should be. However it's possible that Tamballini will listen to teams willing to trade for it too. A lot of rumours right now.

[Salaam86]

Any other caps fans unbury themselves from the sand yet?

I hope GMGM makes some moves this summer, instead of insisting that the current roster is okay. For starters, Jeff Schultz needs to go.


Alzner - Carlson
Hannan - Green
Wideman/Poti(if he returns?)/The Orlov/Erskine

I'd like to see them move Alex Semin, thank **** he doesn't have a retarded contract.....

Semin+ for Kesler? yes pls.

lol, I would take that in a heart beat. You see in the paper today about Olie coming back to the Caps to help coach the goalies?

[LVI]

Here is an artice from Oilers Nation:

Jim Matheson at The Journal is hearing much the same things I am about Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini angling for a second top pick in the first round at the NHL Entry Draft in Minnesota next Friday.

My understanding is the Oilers, who will likely use the first overall pick to take Ryan Nugent-Hopkins of the Red Deer Rebels, are looking at making a deal to move into the top five, specifically the top three, to get a shot at Swedish defenseman Adam Larsson.

On June 14 I wrote: "Just Saying: Might the Oilers look at trading the 19th pick in the first round this year and their first pick in 2012, which figures to be anything from a fifth to a 10th pick, to get a second top-five pick in Minny? More on that to come."

Matty chimed in Thursday with: " . . . they are trying hard to move up from No. 19 (the pick bequeathed from the Los Angeles Kings in the Dustin Penner trade) into the top 10, presumably to take a defenceman," mentioning interest in Larsson, Doug Hamilton and Duncan Siemens.

While I'm hearing top five, which is where the Oilers will have to be to have any chance of getting Larsson, and Matheson is hearing top 10, which allows for more potential trade partners, it seems obvious to me Tambellini is working the phones, as he should.

Getting a deal done, as always, is another matter. If the Oilers covet Larsson as I believe, they're going to have to move into the third selection slot to get him, meaning Tambellini will be talking to Dale Tallon and the Florida Panthers.
With Tallon looking to stockpile draft picks, I can see Tambellini offering the 19th pick from the Penner deal with Los Angeles and his first pick in 2012 for the third pick in Minnesota.

That line of thinking is predicated on the Oilers being completely sold that Larsson is a better defensive prospect than anybody who will be available in 2012 and that Tambellini is confident the Oilers will improve enough this season that their first selection next summer won't be a high lottery pick, but something in the range of 5-10.

While we can debate the likelihood the Oilers will move out of lottery contention this season, and already have in the original item I wrote, my sense is that will be his approach.
Working a deal with Tallon, of course, goes right out the window if the Colorado Avalanche take Larsson with the second pick. I don't see the Avs going that way, but the possibility likely means any potential deal with Florida will come on the draft floor, even if the teams are talking now.

If Tambellini is casting a wider net, as Matheson suggests, that brings teams like New Jersey (4th), the New York Islanders (5th), Ottawa (6th) and Columbus (8th) into play.
Former Oiler assistant GM Scott Howson, now the boss in Columbus, would seem to be the likeliest trade partner in that scenario. He's got to get the Blue Jackets into the playoffs this season and he might be willing to deal his first pick for the 19th and a roster player who can help now.

Tambellini tried without success to get Howson's fourth overall pick last summer, one he intended to use on centre Ryan Johansen after taking Taylor Hall. Might one of Edmonton's small, skilled forwards convince Howson to move this time around?

Either way, whether it's Florida or Columbus or any team in between, there's definitely some smoke here, so it'll be worth keeping an eye on once Jason Gregor and I get to Minnesota Wednesday. Stay tuned.


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[TheGoldenGoal87]

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Jan-L...tract/89/36444

Looks like Rangers are out of the Richards race, there's no way they can afford him and sign all their RFAs.

[samcanadian]

I hate Carter and think that would be a terrible trade for the Flyers.



Carter will be a 30/30 guy for many years to come considering he gets 2/3 of his goals in garbage time.

I'm not sure if Bryzgalov would even sign with Philly. Look what happened with Hamhuis last year.

Bryzgalov wants a lot of money.

[thegenerel]

I'd like to see them move Alex Semin, thank **** he doesn't have a retarded contract.....

Semin+ for Kesler? yes pls.

its not a great deal either. 6.7M for a guy that disappears, and its only 1 year. he could leave next summer.

Kesler is signed long term to a very team friendly salary. that '+' would need to be something impressive to get Kesler.

[thegenerel]

I'm not sure if Bryzgalov would even sign with Philly. Look what happened with Hamhuis last year.

Bryzgalov wants a lot of money.

its obvious that Philly needs a goalie, but Holmgren seems like he swings for the fences every chance he gets...or better yet, shoot first, sort out the bodies later.

[samcanadian]

its not a great deal either. 6.7M for a guy that disappears, and its only 1 year. he could leave next summer.

Kesler is signed long term to a very team friendly salary. that '+' would need to be something impressive to get Kesler.

Kesler could very well have the C next year in Vancouver...I can't see him being traded away. Still too much potential in that franchise to want to move away and he's pretty happy with the city and his teammates.

[samcanadian]

its obvious that Philly needs a goalie, but Holmgren seems like he swings for the fences every chance he gets...or better yet, shoot first, sort out the bodies later.

Yeah, that's such a huge missing piece of the puzzle that you think he'd be willing to drop a little extra in that department. If they had a real goalie this playoffs they would've been the team to beat in the East.

[magicmatt]

Kesler could very well have the C next year in Vancouver...I can't see him being traded away. Still too much potential in that franchise to want to move away and he's pretty happy with the city and his teammates.

shiit even he doesnt deserve the C. give it to bieksa

[samcanadian]

shiit even he doesnt deserve the C. give it to bieksa

I'd love that. Bieksa's my favourite.

[thegenerel]

shiit even he doesnt deserve the C. give it to bieksa

Kesler is the future of that team, Id give him the C. Bieksa might not even be back.

That is kind of moot right now anyways, unless the players want to take the C off Henrik

[CanadianJohn]

I'd love that. Bieksa's my favourite.

yess! Bieksa for captain! Kessler wouldn't be a bad pick either. On a side note, I think that the leafs and the oilers are going to do very well next season...surprisingly.

[Darthn3ss]

lol, I would take that in a heart beat. You see in the paper today about Olie coming back to the Caps to help coach the goalies?

he's primarly going to be working with the caps minor league affiliates, david prior is back as head goaltending coach.

Irbe left, and i'm guessing they didn't get another russian-speaking coach because they don't plan on having a russian-speaking goalie in the future?

[samcanadian]

yess! Bieksa for captain! Kessler wouldn't be a bad pick either. On a side note, I think that the leafs and the oilers are going to do very well next season...surprisingly.

I don't think the Leafs or Oilers are quite there yet. The Oilers will be better this year but I don't think they'll be playoff contenders.

Leafs...well, they've got a shot to make the playoffs but I don't know how deep they can go. A lot of it will count on Reimer continuing his strong play from this year...he could actually be the cornerstone to long-term success in that franchise.

I think the only Canadian teams that will get worse are probably the Canucks (Not like they'll be that much worse, but you can't really improve from a Game 7 Stanley Cup appearance) the Senators and the Flames. The Flames just about need to blow up that team, they're garbage.

[thegenerel]

inb4 Jawnzer

[ChaseW]

I don't think the Leafs or Oilers are quite there yet. The Oilers will be better this year but I don't think they'll be playoff contenders.

Leafs...well, they've got a shot to make the playoffs but I don't know how deep they can go. A lot of it will count on Reimer continuing his strong play from this year...he could actually be the cornerstone to long-term success in that franchise.

I think the only Canadian teams that will get worse are probably the Canucks (Not like they'll be that much worse, but you can't really improve from a Game 7 Stanley Cup appearance) the Senators and the Flames. The Flames just about need to blow up that team, they're garbage.

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[samcanadian]

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[CanadianJohn]

I don't think the Leafs or Oilers are quite there yet. The Oilers will be better this year but I don't think they'll be playoff contenders.

Leafs...well, they've got a shot to make the playoffs but I don't know how deep they can go. A lot of it will count on Reimer continuing his strong play from this year...he could actually be the cornerstone to long-term success in that franchise.

I think the only Canadian teams that will get worse are probably the Canucks (Not like they'll be that much worse, but you can't really improve from a Game 7 Stanley Cup appearance) the Senators and the Flames. The Flames just about need to blow up that team, they're garbage.

the senators and the flames really are terrible. I think that the leafs will make the playoffs, I was really impressed with the 2nd half of their season...it seemed as if the team was finally coming together. Kulemin, Grabovski, Armstrong, Kadi and MacArthur were all impressive, but obviously Reimer was the star. If he plays the way he did last season he will lead them to the playoffs. And with the draft picks coming up and the long break, hopefully Ron Wilson and the leafs can get their **** together to become stanley cup contenders. I'd like to see them win it before i'm dead, please