ITT: we're on EC stack

[Steve J0bs]

1. What is EC? How do I dose it?
See www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#top

2. Can I take EC with xyz supplement?
As a general rule, avoid taking any stimulants with EC. If you have a preworkout product, you can skip a dose of EC to take it.

A few stim. products I found to be ok with ephedrine personally (drop caff. part) are
- controlled labs white flood
- millennium sports ragnarok

3. Which supplements would you recommend in addition to the EC?
EGCG, fish oils (I have a couple brands listed on my site if you want a rec.)
Creatine (mono or a non-stim product) - good for keeping strength/lean mass)
Multivitamin (for general health)

4. Why not take aspirin?
See www.hotnfit.com/ecstack.htm#top
Your fish oils, at a EPA + DHA dosing of 1-2 g per day (so 3-6 regular, or 2-3 concentrated omega 3 caps) will help lower blood pressure slightly.

5. What are things to watch out for NOT mentioned on the hotnfit ec site?
Especially if you are low carbing, watch that your potassium intake is at least 2000 mg per day. Low potassium combined with EC can put you at risk for heart palpitations.

If you want to know how much potassium is in your diet, input your diet into www.nutritiondata.com

Avocado's are rich in potassium and a good choice if you are low carbing.

Also, monitor your blood pressure. If your blood pressure goes outside the normal range, STOP the ec stack.

Don't use it in the heat. People have gotten heatstroke while on EC in the heat, esp. playing sports. This is because it raises your body temperature.

6. What is the difference between ephedrine sulfate and ephedrine hcl?
Ephedrine hcl is slightly stronger, 25 mg ephedrine sulfate is equivalent to 20 mg ephedrine hcl.

7. How do I take it in relation to meals?
Up to you, I always took it every 4 hours upon waking INDEPENDENT of when my meals were.

8. Can I take it just preworkout/precardio?
Yes, HOWEVER, start with a small dose and ONLY increase if you are not having jitters. And I don't suggest doing workouts with jitters. And dont' do your first ever dose preworkout.

9. Is EC dangerous?
It's not foolproof. Use with caution, listen to your body, stop taking it if you get negative symptoms. And yes, people have died.

10. How to come off of EC with minimal sides?
Drop the ephedrine immediately, taper caffeine at 100 mg less every third day.

11. I have 30 mg pills, how do I dose them?
I'd dose this way:
Day 1 - test dose, take 100mg C 15mg E
Day 2-4 - 100mg C 15mg E, 2x
Day 5-7 - 200mg C 15mg E, 2x
Day 8-14 - 300mg C 30mg E first dose, 200mg C 15mg E second dose
Day 14+ - 300mg C 30mg E, 2x

Put the two doses 6 hours apart.

12. Is 2 doses per day effective?
Yes. Go for it if this works better. Sleep is VERY important too.

13. Shouldn't I cycle it every 2 weeks, 4 weeks (whatever)?
Not necessary, and check out this post here
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...4&postcount=17

But I do suggest stopping after 6 weeks for a break, otherwise you risk adrenal fatigue from all that caffeine. If you want to take it LONGER than you may want to consider dosing it only 2x/day or 1x/day.

14.Where can I read some scientific studies?
Check out this thread here
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=555239

Also, go to http://scholar.google.com/ and search away.

15. What is this about not doing HIIT?
Well, you can skip an EC dose and do HIIT if you like. The danger is that your heartrate may go too high. If you have a heart rate monitor, keep track of your heart rate. I definitely would not go above 170-180 bpm. Otherwise, go at a moderate pace. Running should be ok, it's sprinting that would be an issue.

Bronkaid


Prolabs Caffeine


It's like $5 at the BB store

[NRAFL]

Brb still hungry.....

[Bromenclature]

brb crash in 3 hours

[rlwashere]

sup. down to 2x a day because of work/sleep schedule. even though im up til 4am, i wake up at 9 and do work son

[SyN65]

Did it for a few days then stopped. Felt some chest pain, heart was racing, and I was exhausted despite taking so much caffeine.

Anyone else experience this?


Didn't follow the directions EXACTLY but I was really careful, I wasn't taking full doses. Thinking about giving it another try...

[Samsong]

[i3uu]

brb sweating by light activity

[memcop]

Don't feel it anymore. Awe pickles

25/200 every 4hrs

[AbootDatAss]

Did it for a few days then stopped. Felt some chest pain, heart was racing, and I was exhausted despite taking so much caffeine.

Anyone else experience this?


Didn't follow the directions EXACTLY but I was really careful, I wasn't taking full doses. Thinking about giving it another try...

Yeah dude, EC burns me out hardcore after awhile and it's a struggle to get out for runs/gym.

Not worth it in my opinion, I much prefer my bicycles

[fitmember]

BRb its almost 10 and about time for my 2nd dose



1st was @ 4:45am and i was ready to lift by 5am when i got to the gym

[irboreddd]

2nd cycle of it this year after a 2 week rest from the 1st. Finishing up for Summer, yeaaaa buddayyy.

[DomAKARobot]

brb friends invite to play basketball and almost die within 2 mins

f ec

[SyN65]

Yeah dude, EC burns me out hardcore after awhile and it's a struggle to get out for runs/gym.

Not worth it in my opinion, I much prefer my bicycles

I had one beer 6 hours after my last EC dose and I was DONE. Heart racing, tired as ****t, chest pain. feelsbadman.jpg

Would never ride a bicycle, prob. just gonna stick to low carb/carb cycling. Abs are getting pretty visible after workouts at this point but I'm impatient damn it!

It's like a tease, I want them now.

[Steve J0bs]

Did it for a few days then stopped. Felt some chest pain, heart was racing, and I was exhausted despite taking so much caffeine.

Anyone else experience this?


Didn't follow the directions EXACTLY but I was really careful, I wasn't taking full doses. Thinking about giving it another try...

heart is suppose to race lol

i hope you were drinking 1.5+ gallons of water
taking fish oil
high protein/low/moderate carb diet

[DrinkinSizeOn]

brb tight chest, but loving beign on crack all day

[OliFresh]

BRB IF+EC = gift from above. Canthisbereallife? I fukkin love this combo!

[irboreddd]

heart is suppose to race lol

i hope you were drinking 1.5+ gallons of water
taking fish oil
high protein/low/moderate carb diet

don't forget dat dere Potassium from food, not pills otherwise you're gonna get heart palpitations.

[fitmember]

DO NOT REP ME will not return it for now


whats this about??

[imam0nst3r]

brb crash in 3 hours

no crash at all

grow a sac bitch

[fitmember]

no crash at all

grow a sac bitch

And if you are feeling ran down........... take more!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FckyoCouch]

brb sweating by light activity

brb tight chest, but loving beign on crack all day

These

Brb, staring off in to space for 20 min at a time and tapping my heel non stop while sitting down...

[G0DW1N]

Hiit on EC, fawkin unreal.

On my 4th week. Takin 2 weeks off n gettin back on.

Brb cuttin all summer.

[imam0nst3r]

And if you are feeling ran down........... take more!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ec makes me feel like a bad ass mother f ucker bro

[philliplin]

brb sweating alot
brb not as hungry
brb deadlift went up 50 lbs
brb squatting like mad
brb benching sucks without the EC stack

[DrinkinSizeOn]

Hiit on EC, fawkin unreal.

On my 4th week. Takin 2 weeks off n gettin back on.

Brb cuttin all summer.

hiit on ec? good night sweet princess

[SyN65]

heart is suppose to race lol

i hope you were drinking 1.5+ gallons of water
taking fish oil
high protein/low/moderate carb diet

Yeah I was. Do you feel chest pain as well?

[LikeAMachine]

Yeah dude, EC burns me out hardcore after awhile and it's a struggle to get out for runs/gym.

Not worth it in my opinion, I much prefer my bicycles

Well no fuking sh!t!!!!!!

huurr duuurrrrr





brb can't sleep for sht, feels bad man

[Steve J0bs]

DO NOT REP ME will not return it for now


whats this about??

lulz got about 15 ppl to rep on RC and ppl wont stop reppin :/

so i wanna finish the 15 off first

[vtecaddict]

These

Brb, staring off in to space for 20 min at a time and tapping my heel non stop while sitting down...

brb not even realizing you're tapping heels till reading this post.

brb a million things going through my mind

brb have 10 tabs open and looking through each one ever 5 seconds, pressing f5

[jfeltner]

brb, getting praised at work for getting so much done every day.
brb, getting mad because people are talking to slowly and I can't sit still for that crap
brb, 1 minute rests between sets seem like an hour
brb, playing on the misc while doing financial reports, checking emails, talking on the phone, and playin Angry Birds