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    BCAA? when to take?

    Hi all, I have recently re started my training, i eat well before i workout, take a cellmass shake (bsn) immediately after workout, and then 30-45 mins later I take a whey protein shake (optimum nutrition gold standard). I have recently purchased some BCAA tablets from MyProtein.com. I was just wondering when to take the BCAA tablets? at first i thought straight away after workout, but then didnt know if that wud conflict with the cellmass?

    Also, I wanted to hear your opinions on how much BCAA to consume? I have heard to consume 4-8 grams, and since optimum gold stanard gives me 5g, and the tablets will give me another 3g, i just wanted to know if iv got the proportion right?

    Thanks guys appreciate the time u take to reply

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    The BCAAs in your whey protein are protein bound aminos. The BCAAs in your tablets are free form meaning they will be spiking your blood plasma amino levels much higher.

    Try 6 G post with your whey shake and 6 G when you get up.
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    Personally I take BCAA (min. of 3g Leucine) First thing at wake up, during my morning workout, during my night workout and right before bed. Its a great sup and is inexpensive vrs the recovery and growth results.
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    BCAA's should be taken pre, intra & post training. Look at the profiles of recovery supplements in these categories and you will see most of them have BCAA's in it. There are pre's out there that are centered around energy & endurance & you can mix BCAA's with them.

    Personally first thing in the AM I take Myofusion. It has some whey hydrolysates in it plus whey isolate that is fast acting. BCAA's in the morning aren't necessary considering whey shakes have a good dose of BCAA's already.

    The reason you want BCAA's around training is because they absorb within 15min into the muscle therefore other times during the day are not necessary. Great for lifting & cardio. No other times are necessary. The other reason they are great for around training other then being fast acting is they spike muscle protein synthesis with the aminos that are very necessary when it comes to muscle building. These have both anabolic & anticatabolic properties. Most BCAA sups also contain Glutamine which is more of an anticatabolic amino acid IMO. Leucine is the most anabolic so look for a solid dose of Leucine. Glutamine, Leucine, Isoluecine & Valine are the most prevalent aminos in muscle tissue.


    Originally Posted by rocky21balboa View Post
    Hi all, I have recently re started my training, i eat well before i workout, take a cellmass shake (bsn) immediately after workout, and then 30-45 mins later I take a whey protein shake (optimum nutrition gold standard). I have recently purchased some BCAA tablets from MyProtein.com. I was just wondering when to take the BCAA tablets? at first i thought straight away after workout, but then didnt know if that wud conflict with the cellmass?

    Also, I wanted to hear your opinions on how much BCAA to consume? I have heard to consume 4-8 grams, and since optimum gold stanard gives me 5g, and the tablets will give me another 3g, i just wanted to know if iv got the proportion right?

    Thanks guys appreciate the time u take to reply

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    BCAA's should be taken pre, intra & post training. Look at the profiles of recovery supplements in these categories and you will see most of them have BCAA's in it. There are pre's out there that are centered around energy & endurance & you can mix BCAA's with them.

    Personally first thing in the AM I take Myofusion. It has some whey hydrolysates in it plus whey isolate that is fast acting. BCAA's in the morning aren't necessary considering whey shakes have a good dose of BCAA's already.

    The reason you want BCAA's around training is because they absorb within 15min into the muscle therefore other times during the day are not necessary. Great for lifting & cardio. No other times are necessary. The other reason they are great for around training other then being fast acting is they spike muscle protein synthesis with the aminos that are very necessary when it comes to muscle building. These have both anabolic & anticatabolic properties. Most BCAA sups also contain Glutamine which is more of an anticatabolic amino acid IMO. Leucine is the most anabolic so look for a solid dose of Leucine. Glutamine, Leucine, Isoluecine & Valine are the most prevalent aminos in muscle tissue.
    I just wonder why you post so much when your always wrong and noone takes your advice? Maybe if we just pretend LouB doesn't exist he'll fade away...
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    I have much more knowledge and experience then you have. Your parents should have taught you respect but it's apparent you have none.

    Maybe if you listened to me you wouldn't be so scrawny



    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    I just wonder why you post so much when your always wrong and noone takes your advice? Maybe if we just pretend LouB doesn't exist he'll fade away...

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    I have much more knowledge and experience then you have. Your parents should have taught you respect but it's apparent you have none.

    Maybe if you listened to me you wouldn't be so scrawny
    Then tell me right now what Isoleucine and valine do without a google search. You've got no clue.

    I like how you've got a 40" waist so I'm scrawny, yah I guess if I stood next to a short fat guy I'd look scrawny.
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    They repair muscle tissue numbnut. But like i said Leucine is the most anabolic.

    Dude i would beat you like a red headed step child. Stop playing. You need to bulk up before you fade away into a little scrawny skinny BI*CH


    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Then tell me right now what Isoleucine and valine do without a google search. You've got no clue.

    I like how you've got a 40" waist so I'm scrawny, yah I guess if I stood next to a short fat guy I'd look scrawny.

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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Then tell me right now what Isoleucine and valine do without a google search. You've got no clue.

    I like how you've got a 40" waist so I'm scrawny, yah I guess if I stood next to a short fat guy I'd look scrawny.
    this.

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    They repair muscle tissue numbnut. But like i said Leucine is the most anabolic.

    Dude i would beat you like a red headed step child. Stop playing. You need to bulk up before you fade away into a little scrawny skinny BI*CH
    Through what actions 'numbnut'. Give me specifics other than 'they are good for muscles.'

    Why you so mad? I bet your TMI is below average.
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    This is headed into a metabolite discussion & that's not where my intrest lies. I've read many studies on BCAA supplements. I care about the outcome and that's it. I never said good for the muscles I said they repair muscle tissue.

    You like dumbing people down & putting words in people's mouth's. I don't get paid for my services. Also, what is TMI?


    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Through what actions 'numbnut'. Give me specifics other than 'they are good for muscles.'

    Why you so mad? I bet your TMI is below average.

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    This is headed into a metabolite discussion & that's not where my intrest lies. I've read many studies on BCAA supplements. I care about the outcome and that's it. I never said good for the muscles I said they repair muscle tissue.

    You like dumbing people down & putting words in people's mouth's. I don't get paid for my services. Also, what is TMI?
    It doesn't need to you clearly know very little so don't say you know a lot all you know is what big money supp companies preach to idiots like you lol.

    If you don't know what you TMI is everything makes sense now on why your such an angry person.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Then tell me right now what Isoleucine and valine do without a google search. You've got no clue.
    I assume you were born knowing this and did not have to learn it through an online search or otherwise at one point or another?

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    I assume you were born knowing this and did not have to learn it through an online search or otherwise at one point or another?
    If you can read he told me was vastly more intelligent than I am and then proceeded to talk about how he'd beat me 'like a red-headed step child.'
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    If you can read he told me was vastly more intelligent than I am and then proceeded to talk about how he'd beat me 'like a red-headed step child.'
    Intelligence isn't quite the same as knowing certain facts. It's an intrinsic quality.

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    There is a difference between knowledge and intelligence but i seem to think you lack both.

    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Now your bitching about semantics.

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    There is a difference between knowledge and intelligence but i seem to think you lack both.
    If used in speech correctly then yes however they're terminology varies. You did not use it correctly.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    Now your bitching about semantics.
    ^^^ Not semantics right there, happy?

    You trying to prove him less intelligent for not knowing certain facts is like me saying you're less intelligent for not being able to differentiate between intelligence and knowledge.

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    What are you some liberal arts guy? I dot my I's & cross my T's. Maybe my T is a little slanted but so is your mother's VJJ.



    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    If used in speech correctly then yes however they're terminology varies. You did not use it correctly.

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    Originally Posted by LouB2010 View Post
    What are you some liberal arts guy?
    Mechanical Engineering
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    Originally Posted by Saintly View Post
    ^^^ Not semantics right there, happy?

    You trying to prove him less intelligent for not knowing certain facts is like me saying you're less intelligent for not being able to differentiate between intelligence and knowledge.
    Except you're missing the point where he called out his intelligence on a bodybuilding forum and about bodybuilding topics. Those are fair things to expect a knowledgeable person here to understand.
    Quit trying to act cool when you're using logic of him being out of context when you yourself aren't paying attention to context....

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    Originally Posted by FritzIndustries View Post
    Except you're missing the point where he called out his intelligence on a bodybuilding forum and about bodybuilding topics. Those are fair things to expect a knowledgeable person here to understand.
    Quit trying to act cool when you're using logic of him being out of context when you yourself aren't paying attention to context....
    Regardless of the context, knowledge =/= intelligence.

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    Originally Posted by Saintly View Post
    Regardless of the context, knowledge =/= intelligence.
    Just stop seriously you're playing the devil's advocate and it's not cool or funny.
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    So op about your question ......

    I take it intra if I'm gking to lift fasted. Don't see a need otherwise.

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    Originally Posted by nugget5 View Post
    So op about your question ......

    I take it intra if I'm gking to lift fasted. Don't see a need otherwise.
    FF Aminos act differently than protein bound ones. Leucine also stimulates MPS and Isoleucine assists in glucose uptake, all beneficial in BB terms.
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    Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    FF Aminos act differently than protein bound ones. Leucine also stimulates MPS and Isoleucine assists in glucose uptake, all beneficial in BB terms.
    I was just reading this thread trying to learn a thing or two, I'd like to understand this process better. Protein is broken down into free amino acids right? So once they're broken down they would act the same way, it would just take a little longer to get there. This is a serious question not trying to start an argument or anything.

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