So close to abs...any advice?

[KrazyKrautWop]

I have been cutting now for the past 3.5 months and have seen some great progress. Recently bought Animal Cuts and it has helped my vascularity and all a lot. However, I am getting tired of cutting in general. I can't wait to go back to the gym and grow on a clean bulk. Only problem is that my abs seem to be stubborn. First week of Cuts they were really becoming visible (looked around 11% bf). Now they have disappeared again.

Daily Nutrition:
Between 1800-2300 cal
At least 180 g protein
No more than 170 g carbs/80 g fat

Lifting/Cardio:
Strength (4-6x3) Training 3 days a week
Cardio: Off days HIIT for 20 min
Abdominal: Layne Norton's KISS training (twice a week)


I am hovering round 12% at the moment and am wondering about buying a second jar of Cuts (since it has helped a lot).

What should I do in order to get to around 9-10% bf in around 3-5 weeks?

[Joe HadEID]

Just keep dieting.
No need for any fat loss supplements.



But if you absolutely insist on starting another cycle, I would wait at least a month or so before you start back up on the fat loss supp.

[DSUP]

I'm responding because we're about the same height and weight. Please stop looking for your physique in a jar of supplements. You don't need them and I doubt that they help. Cutting is very basic: reduce calories, protein, lift heavy.

If abs are what you're after, you can carry more fat and still have them visible if you train them with heavy resistance. 100 crunches isn't going to make your abs thick but 20 with a 45lb plate on your chest will help.

Cutting gets tougher the less fat you have to cut. All you can do is keep reducing your intake and keep your lifts as heavy as your undernourished body can handle.

Good luck!

[teamgenetics]

I say increase your cardio, do cardio in the AM on a empty stomach, carb cycle, lift heavy, eat 100% clean, drink 1.5 - 2 gallons of water per day. sleep, repeat

[th3pwn3r]

Cutting gets tougher the less fat you have to cut. All you can do is keep reducing your intake and keep your lifts as heavy as your undernourished body can handle.

This is why it's much better to carry around more lbm, you can have more fat mass and still look great.

[KrazyKrautWop]

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If abs are what you're after, you can carry more fat and still have them visible if you train them with heavy resistance. 100 crunches isn't going to make your abs thick but 20 with a 45lb plate on your chest will help.

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I have thought bout this. The deal is that I have been noticing some improvement ever since I started Layne Norton's ab routine which is mostly weighted. Now the thing I am curious about is, even if I am still in the 12-14% bf range, will they show with the proper training? I have bout 1/2 inch of fat over them. So maybe just another 2 weeks of cutting then clean bulking will eventually get me there.

[teamgenetics]

stop worrying about it, just stay consistent with everything and you will have your abs.

[KrazyKrautWop]

stop worrying about it, just stay consistent with everything and you will have your abs.

Yeah that's what I'm gonna do. I never thought I'd see the day when I cared so much about visible abdominal development but here I am.

[th3pwn3r]

Yeah that's what I'm gonna do. I never thought I'd see the day when I cared so much about visible abdominal development but here I am.

Keep in mind when you're lean you'll have more than just a decent set of abs. All of your muscles will look that much better.

[KrazyKrautWop]

Keep in mind when you're lean you'll have more than just a decent set of abs. All of your muscles will look that much better.

Which is why I wanna hit at least 10% before I start a clean bulk. That way, even though it's inevitable to gain fat on a bulk, it will look minimal since I was lean to begin with.

[DSUP]

I have thought bout this. The deal is that I have been noticing some improvement ever since I started Layne Norton's ab routine which is mostly weighted. Now the thing I am curious about is, even if I am still in the 12-14% bf range, will they show with the proper training? I have bout 1/2 inch of fat over them. So maybe just another 2 weeks of cutting then clean bulking will eventually get me there.

Yes. I'm no less than 13% in my profile pic (fully flexed) or here (unflexed):



I train the snot out of my abs with as much resistance as I can find. That way, I can sport a six pack without being emaciated.

[KrazyKrautWop]

Yes. I'm no less than 13% in my profile pic (fully flexed) or here (unflexed):



I train the snot out of my abs with as much resistance as I can find. That way, I can sport a six pack without being emaciated.

Cool and did you do maintenance or a clean bulk to get that?

[leaderbeans]

What are some good weighted ab workouts? Can you explain more please?

[DSUP]

Cool and did you do maintenance or a clean bulk to get that?

I try to run lean in the Summer and not be afraid to let go of my hard earned definition in the Winter so that I can build some muscle. I am in my second cut. Last Winter I just had to lift as heavy as I could, EAT (I ate A LOT of meat, eggs, and green vegetables), and have faith that I would be able to trim the extra fat off if I timed it right in the Spring. I'm pretty pleased with my progress (I only missed my weight goal by two pounds) and I'm looking forward to the cut after the next bulk.

What are some good weighted ab workouts? Can you explain more please?

Cable Crunches, Hanging Leg Raises (with a dumbell between your knees or ankles), Floor Crunches (with weight on your chest), any machine that lets you add resistance.

[KrazyKrautWop]

I try to run lean in the Summer and not be afraid to let go of my hard earned definition in the Winter so that I can build some muscle. I am in my second cut. Last Winter I just had to lift as heavy as I could, EAT (I ate A LOT of meat, eggs, and green vegetables), and have faith that I would be able to trim the extra fat off if I timed it right in the Spring. I'm pretty pleased with my progress (I only missed my weight goal by two pounds) and I'm looking forward to the cut after the next bulk.



Cable Crunches, Hanging Leg Raises (with a dumbell between your knees or ankles), Floor Crunches (with weight on your chest), any machine that lets you add resistance.

Lol well I did a dirty bulk that was a little too dirty. I have never been lean in my life but I know now that about 10 to 15 lbs that I gained was definately unwanted fat. I peaked at 207 around late January. So that's why I'm hesitant bout really keeping watch of a clean bulk. Never being lean is also why I want to see this cut to the end but not so far that I lose muscle. I'll definitely take your advice though.

[boobah]

thanks dsup for the info

[PKSebben]

also, op, if you have about a half inch of fat covering your abs you might need to lose a full 10 pounds or more before the abs show. so if 2 weeks doesn't get you the results you want, don't give up, sometimes the "little" bit of stubborn fat is actually more than it seems

[Mazkulin]

carb cycling, HIIT, deficit

sounds like your on the right track OP. just gotta be a little more patient and grind it out for a few more weeks

[tomlaw91]

I say increase your cardio, do cardio in the AM on a empty stomach, carb cycle, lift heavy, eat 100% clean, drink 1.5 - 2 gallons of water per day. sleep, repeat

Cardio on empty stomach doesn't help burn fat quicker unless you're doing about 90+ minutes of it. Carb cycling I heard does help with most people getting to low bf% cause it "shocks" the body.
Op just stick with it

[Mazkulin]

Cardio on empty stomach doesn't help burn fat quicker unless you're doing about 90+ minutes of it. Carb cycling I heard does help with most people getting to low bf% cause it "shocks" the body.
Op just stick with it

pretend this post never happened OP