For the whole of this year I've been training with dumbbells and recently I thought I might as well switch up my routine.
I found that I can't bench the same weight with the barbell that I do with the dumbbells. i.e. I was using 2x40kg (2x88lbs) dumbbells on the flat bench for 8 reps (without a spot) but couldn't even do one rep of 80kg (176lbs) with the bar.
In my opinion this is ****ing weird and I would appreciate any advice as to how to correct this because I know for sure that your supposed to bench more using the bar than with dumbbells.
05-30-2011, 05:41 PM #1
Benching more with dumbbells than with a barbell.
05-30-2011, 05:44 PM #2
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You're right, that is a little weird.
Even with the added weight of the bar you should usually be able to bench more with the barbell than dumbells.
Just do a power day for upper body and do 3-5 reps on barbell bench to get your strength up quick. Do some narrow grip bench also to get your tris used to the barbell benchlettuce turnip the beet
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Same range of motion?"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." —Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 1785
05-30-2011, 06:36 PM #7
It might sound crazy, but Rich Gaspari has actually been a proponent of using dumbbells INSTEAD of barbell, to work the chest. Why? Because with the barbell, you're simply more restricted. That means IF... your body's structure just happens to be built for the barbell bench press movement... then good for you, you can use it to build mass.
But, some people really should use dumbbells. Because, the bar is simply not allowing them to fully engage their chest the way it should be. This isn't the case with most people. And most guys will totally disagree with what I just said. But, hey, they're not built like us, are they?
Nowadays I actually do the barbell benches last, toward the end of the workout. Totally opposite to what you're 'supposed' to do. Plus you have to swallow your ego. People expect they're gonna see me bench at least 315 for many reps. But, it ain't gonna happen.
Hell I can almost do a behind-the-back barbell wrist curl with the same weight I workout with on the bench. But, most guys can't even bench it, though.
Just build the chest, man. Unless you're a competitive powerlifter, "how much ya bench??" really doesn't freakin' matter. Now, if you would like to get into a calf-lifting competition... or see who can do side laterals with the heavier weight...
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Have you just started benching? it takes a while to get the form and technique down right. Also realize that the BB bench press works the muscles different then the DB bench press. Although it is unusual that you are DB pressing more then your BB benching, it's not really unheard of. My guess would be you probably lack form and the muscles that are really worked in the BB bench press are lacking. DB's are the ultimate free weight, and so all your stabilizing muscles get worked. This means that its not just mainly your chest and tri's doing the work, you now have your deltoids, lat's and core picking up on alot of the work now too.
I think that you've developed the stabilizing muscles well through the DB press, but the large muscles like the chest and tri's aren't strong enough to handle the BB bench press at the weight you tried.
Now that you've built up your stabilizers, its time to work on that BB bench press! so lift properly, lift hard and leave your ego at the door. You'll get there mateDon't stop when you're tired, stop when you're done.
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05-30-2011, 09:15 PM #12
**usually** different paths of motion during the movement
I usually do barbell. I can lift more weight with barbell than dumbbell. Simply because that is what I am accustomed to.
Most people I've seen (and myself included when I trained with dumbbells) start in the same position as they would a barbell, but then push the weight up in a "V" motion. Although speculation on my part, I believe this hits different stabilizers.
I think you just need to get used to lifting with bb for a while and then you'll be fine.
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