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    Nation of Islam Diet

    "The former leader of the "Nation Of Islam", Elijah Muhammad recommended a very similar diet approach to the "Warrior Diet." Each member was required to do a water fast during the day and then they would have a feast in the evenings with their families. They did this for many reasons including mental and physical discipline and to have mental clarity during the day.

    I believe that a Malcolm X stated that the most difficult instinct for man to control is not sexual desire, but desire for food. Furthermore, Malcolm X stated that if you can control hunger, then everything else will be a breeze. If you look at most members of the N.O.I, very few of them are overweight. Most are lean and in great shape."

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    Seems reasonable to me. I think that (probably unconsciously) we are taught to eat throughout the day in order to keep us docile. Lean hungry warriors (like in the Nation) who are pissed off would be disruptive to the little cockroaches who run Wall Street and the Banks.
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    Like with most things in the NOI this idea is also hijacked form elsewhere, i would know i'm ex-semiNOI.

    It was the Greeks that first suggested this, Socrates outlined that controlling hunger and eating less made you mentally and physically sharper.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post

    I believe that a Malcolm X stated that the most difficult instinct for man to control is not sexual desire, but desire for food. Furthermore, Malcolm X stated that if you can control hunger, then everything else will be a breeze.
    Boy is this true.

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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    I think that (probably unconsciously) we are taught to eat throughout the day in order to keep us docile. Lean hungry warriors (like in the Nation) who are pissed off would be disruptive to the little cockroaches who run Wall Street and the Banks.
    We're taught to eat throughout the day because it keeps our metabolisms up. The reason why this doesn't really matter for most people is because they're sedentary - or docile, if you so desire. Eating throughout the day is great if you expend the energy and are active, but of course most people aren't even nearly that active.

    And besides, the quality and content of the food most people eat is atrocious. Lean meats, fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains? Please, there's a Mickey D's right down the road, and inb4 butmcdonaldsisjustgivingamericanswhattheywantandbe sidestheirmenuhasimprovedandyouhatefreedombecausey ouhatepeoplewhochoosetheirownmealsblahblahblah.

    Honestly, a nation of fit people is a happy, productive, healthy nation. But the minute the First Lady suggests to children that exercising and eating healthy might be pretty awesome, even people on a bodybuilding forum instantly equate that to sending in shock troops in the dead of night to kick down people's doors and force them to do squats and pushups, or maybe just stop watching so much Biggest Losing and actually try, y'know, walking or something. At gunpoint.

    Because her old man is 'Dem' or a 'lib' whatever your prefer.

    And of course, if a Republican President is the one that ACTUALLY sends in the shock troops, that's okay, because freedom and Bible and veterans that's why.

    I admire Michelle Obama for stepping up and starting the conversation. Nobody had any problem with Dubya or any other Republican telling us what we are and aren't allowed to do with our own ****ing bodies, even going so far as to make laws about what people can and cannot do with their own bodies. But Michelle Obama says something? Evil, evil socialism.

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    Good responses, gents.

    The goal of going somewhat hungry is to build your spirit. Think of Jesus going on a 40 day fast -- dealing with hunger was a way of training.

    I've noticed also that food tastes way better when I fast all day (by fast, I mean that I take BCAA/EA throughout the day, just no solid food). Having a good meal at about 6 PM, once per day, just makes a lot of sense. Keeps the calories down.

    Of course, if the goal is to get huge, then eating like that is not the way to go.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    Good responses, gents.

    The goal of going somewhat hungry is to build your spirit. Think of Jesus going on a 40 day fast -- dealing with hunger was a way of training.

    I've noticed also that food tastes way better when I fast all day (by fast, I mean that I take BCAA/EA throughout the day, just no solid food). Having a good meal at about 6 PM, once per day, just makes a lot of sense. Keeps the calories down.

    Of course, if the goal is to get huge, then eating like that is not the way to go.
    Did Jesus even lift? Did he have an impressive physique, or live to 90 and still be able to run a marathon at such an elderly age? If not then I would suggest ignoring anything he might have said regarding nutrition or training.
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    Good responses, gents.

    The goal of going somewhat hungry is to build your spirit. Think of Jesus going on a 40 day fast -- dealing with hunger was a way of training.

    I've noticed also that food tastes way better when I fast all day (by fast, I mean that I take BCAA/EA throughout the day, just no solid food). Having a good meal at about 6 PM, once per day, just makes a lot of sense. Keeps the calories down.

    Of course, if the goal is to get huge, then eating like that is not the way to go.
    Had a lot of interesting spiritual visions and experiences while fasting, back in the day. As time went on, I began to wonder more and more if that was just my body's response to the lack of calories and nutrients, or if I was somehow bridging the gap, so to speak - seeing 'beyond,' seeing 'more'. I don't fast anymore now, but I can tell you that, even to this day, the things I saw, heard and felt have left me wondering and uncertain. That if by restricting myself in that way, by denying my biology, I was able to pull back the curtain of reality - just a smidgeon - and glimpse something moving in the incomprehensible dark (or was it light) beyond.

    *shivers*

    And it's a good thing to keep the calories down. Not always easy, of course; I sho does loves to eats lol
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    Originally Posted by Streetbull View Post
    Good responses, gents.

    The goal of going somewhat hungry is to build your spirit. Think of Jesus going on a 40 day fast -- dealing with hunger was a way of training.

    I've noticed also that food tastes way better when I fast all day (by fast, I mean that I take BCAA/EA throughout the day, just no solid food). Having a good meal at about 6 PM, once per day, just makes a lot of sense. Keeps the calories down.

    Of course, if the goal is to get huge, then eating like that is not the way to go.
    *slowly strokes beard*

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    Originally Posted by skinpoppin View Post
    Like with most things in the NOI this idea is also hijacked form elsewhere, i would know i'm ex-semiNOI.

    It was the Greeks that first suggested this, Socrates outlined that controlling hunger and eating less made you mentally and physically sharper.
    this must explain why muhammad ali was such a strong warrior brah
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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    Did Jesus even lift? Did he have an impressive physique, or live to 90 and still be able to run a marathon at such an elderly age? If not then I would suggest ignoring anything he might have said regarding nutrition or training.
    Training his Mind.
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    this must explain why muhammad ali was such a strong warrior brah
    Good point brah... hmmm...


    After a bit of research, i don't think it would have been a problem for Ali. he was 6' 3" so already big and his weight wasn't going anywhere. He didn't use weights at all during training which helped with his flexibility and speed.
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    Originally Posted by skinpoppin View Post
    Good point brah... hmmm...
    They conquered most of the ME, until they started eating more and living in cities.
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    Originally Posted by TH3SHR3DD3R View Post
    We're taught to eat throughout the day because it keeps our metabolisms up. The reason why this doesn't really matter for most people is because they're sedentary - or docile, if you so desire. Eating throughout the day is great if you expend the energy and are active, but of course most people aren't even nearly that active.

    And besides, the quality and content of the food most people eat is atrocious. Lean meats, fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains? Please, there's a Mickey D's right down the road, and inb4 butmcdonaldsisjustgivingamericanswhattheywantandbe sidestheirmenuhasimprovedandyouhatefreedombecausey ouhatepeoplewhochoosetheirownmealsblahblahblah.

    Honestly, a nation of fit people is a happy, productive, healthy nation. But the minute the First Lady suggests to children that exercising and eating healthy might be pretty awesome, even people on a bodybuilding forum instantly equate that to sending in shock troops in the dead of night to kick down people's doors and force them to do squats and pushups, or maybe just stop watching so much Biggest Losing and actually try, y'know, walking or something. At gunpoint.

    Because her old man is 'Dem' or a 'lib' whatever your prefer.

    And of course, if a Republican President is the one that ACTUALLY sends in the shock troops, that's okay, because freedom and Bible and veterans that's why.

    I admire Michelle Obama for stepping up and starting the conversation. Nobody had any problem with Dubya or any other Republican telling us what we are and aren't allowed to do with our own ****ing bodies, even going so far as to make laws about what people can and cannot do with their own bodies. But Michelle Obama says something? Evil, evil socialism.

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    lol, I get your point but my only problem with the government endorsing positions on health is that there's always so many different ways to interpret data. IE I think insulin has a lot to do with getting fat and a study that I saw a few days ago had one group of people exercise in a low insulin state and another in a high insulin state, and the only group who lost weight was the ones exercising in the low insulin state -- in the calories in/out model, studies like that shouldn't happen.

    Same thing with being crazy on vegetables. Gary Taubes points out that all the studies that show health for eating vegetables are epidemiological. Those types of studies prove all types of things, seriously you could make the argument on epidemiological data that we should get a bachelor's degree because people with bacherlor's live longer.

    Same with every health source believing that eating raw vegetables will give you nutrients and 'anti-oxidants' -- anti-oxidants which when they give to mice in a dose equal to humans the mice die faster and nutrients that we know many times different nutrients don't get absorbed depending on the food / preparation method. So why are people just saying, 'Eat vegetables', is there studies testing the absorption rates from the vegetables?

    I don't know if there is, but there's a definite fact that the nutrients in vegetables are redundant. Vit A/Vit C, srs. And if you want to get Mg. from vegetables, you have to get unhealthy amounts of Vitamin A(Vitamin A competes with Vitamin D for entry into the cells). IE if you wnat to get magnesium source from kale/spinach, you have to get excess vitamin A.

    Anyways I still see your point and think this is an interesting topic, just sounds too much like 1984 where your TV starts up and you have to do start doing aerobics. My God, let people be free, we're not assets of the government, the government derives it's power from the citizens and has to follow our will. Government as 'big brother', the big helper to help you along with your life and make sure you floss those teeth and learn your Algebra, is scary -- EVEN if learning algebra and flossing your teeth is good bro.

    Either way actually interested in seeing you post some more since you normally have thought out posts
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    When you're insulin levels drop you're cortisol levels increase, so throughout the day people will have higher cortisol if they're not eating any food -- for you to produce cortisol your body uses up your vitamin C stores -- so seriously if someone does longer fasting and has low vitamin C in-take they're going to have very low T-cell count and get seriously sick every chance they get.

    Just saying this because I get sick like an AIDs patient if I forget to eat any vitamin C -- it's because literally you will go into pre-scurvy symptoms when you're in low insulin state with low vitamin C for a long period of time-- you're body burns through vitamin C fast if you're in a insulin/high cortisol state. This is one reason why stressed people(high cortisol) age so fast and get sick so often -- not because cortisol in itself will suppress the immune system as measured by T-cell, but because with cortisol-induced vitamin C deficiency the body either won't produce T-cells as it should or it will produce T-cells that don't do their job.

    Summary :
    *Do semi fasted state you raise cortisol
    *Cortisol depletes vitamin C stores
    *Vit C needed for proper T-Cell function
    *Need to eat above avg. vit C on this diet
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    Originally Posted by Christianyouth View Post
    lol, I get your point but my only problem with the government endorsing positions on health is that there's always so many different ways to interpret data. IE I think insulin has a lot to do with getting fat and a study that I saw a few days ago had one group of people exercise in a low insulin state and another in a high insulin state, and the only group who lost weight was the ones exercising in the low insulin state -- in the calories in/out model, studies like that shouldn't happen.

    Same thing with being crazy on vegetables. Gary Taubes points out that all the studies that show health for eating vegetables are epidemiological. Those types of studies prove all types of things, seriously you could make the argument on epidemiological data that we should get a bachelor's degree because people with bacherlor's live longer.

    Same with every health source believing that eating raw vegetables will give you nutrients and 'anti-oxidants' -- anti-oxidants which when they give to mice in a dose equal to humans the mice die faster and nutrients that we know many times different nutrients don't get absorbed depending on the food / preparation method. So why are people just saying, 'Eat vegetables', is there studies testing the absorption rates from the vegetables?

    I don't know if there is, but there's a definite fact that the nutrients in vegetables are redundant. Vit A/Vit C, srs. And if you want to get Mg. from vegetables, you have to get unhealthy amounts of Vitamin A(Vitamin A competes with Vitamin D for entry into the cells). IE if you wnat to get magnesium source from kale/spinach, you have to get excess vitamin A.

    Anyways I still see your point and think this is an interesting topic, just sounds too much like 1984 where your TV starts up and you have to do start doing aerobics. My God, let people be free, we're not assets of the government, the government derives it's power from the citizens and has to follow our will. Government as 'big brother', the big helper to help you along with your life and make sure you floss those teeth and learn your Algebra, is scary -- EVEN if learning algebra and flossing your teeth is good bro.

    Either way actually interested in seeing you post some more since you normally have thought out posts
    Health and fitness is indeed a multifaceted, confusing and sometimes contradictory subject. New information is always forthcoming, and we should keep ourselves up to date. That said, I don't see Michelle Obama's campaign to reduce childhood obesity as one where she's giving specific information and guidelines to follow, but rather attempting to motivate children (and their parents) to be physically active and considerate about what they're eating.

    Anyone who follows what the government says to the letter is an idiot - as is anyone who completely disregards what the government says, as well.

    There are people who only follow the folk remedy advice of their dead grandmother. But we're less likely to say that she was not looking out for our best interests, even if she is proven wrong time and again, because she isn't 'the government'. There are numerous sources that people follow without question, and we don't condemn that because they aren't 'the government'. People follow fad diets, but at least that isn't 'the government'. People buy quote, ab exercise equipment, end quote, from TV, and we know they don't work, but so long as 'the government' doesn't endorse it, it's okay.

    And as I've mentioned repeatedly: when a Republican actually passes laws that interfere with our lives, it's perfectly fine, but when a Democrat SUGGESTS we do/think differently, it's worse than shock troops in the dead of night. The only small government some people are interested in is the small government that leaves THEM alone but enforces their worldviews on those that disagree with them. And it's that way for people on both sides.

    I for one don't care if the government comes onto the TV and demands we give them all of our money and go attack everyone they tell us to. Doesn't mean I have to do it. It's just one more mouthpiece I can choose to ignore or listen to as I see fit. And some people will listen to it, but so what? We don't want to take away the rights of a religious leader who does the same thing, so why the government?
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    Originally Posted by Christianyouth View Post
    When you're insulin levels drop you're cortisol levels increase, so throughout the day people will have higher cortisol if they're not eating any food -- for you to produce cortisol your body uses up your vitamin C stores -- so seriously if someone does longer fasting and has low vitamin C in-take they're going to have very low T-cell count and get seriously sick every chance they get.

    Just saying this because I get sick like an AIDs patient if I forget to eat any vitamin C -- it's because literally you will go into pre-scurvy symptoms when you're in low insulin state with low vitamin C for a long period of time-- you're body burns through vitamin C fast if you're in a insulin/high cortisol state. This is one reason why stressed people(high cortisol) age so fast and get sick so often -- not because cortisol in itself will suppress the immune system as measured by T-cell, but because with cortisol-induced vitamin C deficiency the body either won't produce T-cells as it should or it will produce T-cells that don't do their job.

    Summary :
    *Do semi fasted state you raise cortisol
    *Cortisol depletes vitamin C stores
    *Vit C needed for proper T-Cell function
    *Need to eat above avg. vit C on this diet
    you strike me as a stupid person. no offense or nothing, u just come off as a dummy
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    Originally Posted by NormB View Post
    you strike me as a stupid person. no offense or nothing, u just come off as a dummy
    trolololo

    cool story bro

    edit : about to get some work done shredder, I made a quick reply to your post then deleted it because I didn't read everything you said. I'll definitely give it a read later today
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    Originally Posted by Christianyouth View Post
    edit : about to get some work done shredder, I made a quick reply to your post then deleted it because I didn't read everything you said. I'll definitely give it a read later today
    Looking forward to it.

    I was just . . . 'meditating' on this topic, if you will, and began to ponder the nature of government expressing its views as an entity regarding our behavior and choices. Part of me thinks that government can't express its own views; telling people who they're allowed to marry based on the religious views of a handful of extremists or that they need to eat healthy and exercise are the views of voters, and governing bodies express these views themselves (or make laws accordingly) or uphold previous laws as a means of garnering votes and holding onto their bases, not because they themselves hold these views. I've expressed repeatedly that politicians and pundits don't mean what they say; I see no difference in this situation.
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    Originally Posted by skinpoppin View Post
    Like with most things in the NOI this idea is also hijacked form elsewhere, i would know i'm ex-semiNOI.

    It was the Greeks that first suggested this, Socrates outlined that controlling hunger and eating less made you mentally and physically sharper.
    Negative sir, The Black Arabs and Black Africans were the first and Original people and were eating one meal a day or every other day before the Greeks even exsisted. The Greeks did not know anything about civilization or eating right until they came in contact with Blacks in Africa. The Greeks were living in caves and eating uncooked flesh until the Africans civilized them.
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    Originally Posted by OriginalMan7 View Post
    Negative sir, The Black Arabs and Black Africans were the first and Original people and were eating one meal a day or every other day before the Greeks even exsisted. The Greeks did not know anything about civilization or eating right until they came in contact with Blacks in Africa. The Greeks were living in caves and eating uncooked flesh until the Africans civilized them.
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