Glycergrow discussion

[bonerappetite]

Taken from a previous thread,

"glycergrow is detrimental to actual performance"

"GMS pulls water out of your muscle cells and into the interstitium. This definitely does not spell good news for athletic performance unless endurance training."

So is this an unsafe/counterproductive supp or what? Do people just buy it for the pump look and it doesn't really do much else/is unhealthy?

[mobikwa]

Well at least you provided some science to back up your wild claims. Now we can have an intelligent discussion on this topic.

[whitesox23]

Taken from a previous thread,

"glycergrow is detrimental to actual performance"

"GMS pulls water out of your muscle cells and into the interstitium. This definitely does not spell good news for athletic performance unless endurance training."

So is this an unsafe/counterproductive supp or what? Do people just buy it for the pump look and it doesn't really do much else/is unhealthy?

Exactly. GMS for the most part is counterproductive to hypertrophy and is only bought for the purely aestetic pump(and emulsification if using ArA how neuron recommends). It pulls water out of muscle fibers and compresses them whereas creatine can actually make its way into muscle and draw water in. More intracellular fluid = more microtrauma = creatine helps with hypertrophy. GMS hinders it because it does the opposite. There is a good diagram or creatine and GMS that Pinch has posted that I can't find at the moment.

[KingOfChaos]

Exactly. GMS for the most part is counterproductive to hypertrophy and is only bought for the purely aestetic pump(and emulsification if using ArA how neuron recommends). It pulls water out of muscle fibers and compresses them whereas creatine can actually make its way into muscle and draw water in. More intracellular fluid = more microtrauma = creatine helps with hypertrophy. GMS hinders it because it does the opposite. There is a good diagram or creatine and GMS that Pinch has posted that I can't find at the moment.

What if you took both? Would they cancel out or would the effects stack making you unable to wipe your butt?

[xxtotuxx]

What if you took both? Would they cancel out or would the effects stack making you unable to wipe your butt?

This. What if I'm taking GreenMag + GG.

[whitesox23]

What if you took both? Would they cancel out or would the effects stack making you unable to wipe your butt?

Haha I currently do take both (only for my ArA cycle, I would never use GMS otherwise). GMS pumps>>>creatine pumps, but ArA is an awesome pump product as well. I love ArA as a mass builder so I don;t believe it hinders gains a huge amount, but I've also taken Flashover(CM+GMS) without ArA and made good gains with awesome pumps there too...

[bpisoverrateddd]

But if XFA (or creatine) are suppose to cause hypertrophy, than wouldn't GMS counteract it?

[whitesox23]

But if XFA (or creatine) are suppose to cause hypertrophy, than wouldn't GMS counteract it?

Kind of a crude oversimplification, but yes, GMS will counteract hypertrophy (to a small extent) any time of year regardless of other supplements.

[mistabigstuff19]

So if taking creatine and GMS will the creatine help cancel out that effect that the GMS is causing?

[whitesox23]

So if taking creatine and GMS will the creatine help cancel out that effect that the GMS is causing?

Just mentally masturbating, but I would say yes, but there are far smarter members on here with better answers.. The difference is going to be fairly insignificant.. Still looking for that creatine/GMS diagram. Reps to the finder of that!

[rbmorrison]

Just mentally masturbating, but I would say yes, but there are far smarter members on here with better answers.. The difference is going to be fairly insignificant.. Still looking for that creatine/GMS diagram. Reps to the finder of that!

this what you are looking for?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ght=gms&page=2

[whitesox23]

this what you are looking for?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ght=gms&page=2

Yes! You're awesome man thx.. Check that pic^ for a great illustration of the negatives of GMS

Edit: Reps on recharge!

[mistabigstuff19]

Just mentally masturbating, but I would say yes, but there are far smarter members on here with better answers.. The difference is going to be fairly insignificant.. Still looking for that creatine/GMS diagram. Reps to the finder of that!

This is disturbing me now. I currently am taking GlycerGrow and I am loving the pumps I'm experiencing with it but I do not want to be shortchanging myself especially if taking the GMS is preventing me from reaching hypertrophy. I do drink about 2 gallons of water and 5g creatine mono daily so I am hoping that will help.

[INSERT_NAME]

wow...feel like I'm wasting ~$75 if they really are counterproductive

[whitesox23]

This is disturbing me now. I currently am taking GlycerGrow and I am loving the pumps I'm experiencing with it but I do not want to be shortchanging myself especially if taking the GMS is preventing me from reaching hypertrophy. I do drink about 2 gallons of water and 5g creatine mono daily so I am hoping that will help.

It isn't a huge negative.. Ever have a sip of alcohol or take an aspirin? You were probably hindering muscle growth more there than GMS probably ever could... It isn't a big deal one way or the other

wow...feel like I'm wasting ~$75 if they really are counterproductive

Check my first log. I used GMS. If that is counterproductive, than I don't know what productive looks like plus ArA + GMS is a good thing (more ArA>>>SMALL negatives of GMS)

[bonerappetite]

bump

[mistabigstuff19]

I am gonna finish out my tub of GG and see how it goes without it and then make my decision on whether or not to continue it.

[blucavvy]

It isn't a huge negative.. Ever have a sip of alcohol or take an aspirin? You were probably hindering muscle growth more there than GMS probably ever could... It isn't a big deal one way or the other


Check my first log. I used GMS. If that is counterproductive, than I don't know what productive looks like plus ArA + GMS is a good thing (more ArA>>>SMALL negatives of GMS)

in other words it's not a big deal at all then?

[whitesox23]

in other words it's not a big deal at all then?

Pretty much. Everyone loves pumps. We lift to look good. GMS makes you temporarily look good so keep it if you want.. Not a huge deal