RH Chat Part 12: My Girl Isn't That Type Of Girl And Would NEVER Do That.

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...Bah sorry for spam on a phone and I can't delete this stuff

[DERJEVPOO]

There are timed drills u can do.
1) keep talking out loud as fast as u can but nothing can relate similar to freewriting: thread cutting change the topic
Moon round rims car red blood Halloween scythe slaves chains necklace diamond marriage cake birthday
2) talk about 1 thing as much as u cam and as fast as u can. Apple. Red. Yellow granny smIth. Round small tasty sweet

Lol huh?

[Ascendent]

Well... Ive offered before if you were flying into NC, Cali would be just as good. Would need a couple extra days heads up.... still no biggie.

I like formadrol cause I know it works....

The rest... I have some stuff accumulating on my "supp stash shelf"
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Yep, I'll be flying into NC unless something changes. I doubt that will happen though, I have orders at least to my next station. If it was Cali, Beau could just jump into the sky and punch the plane lol.

My experience went as far as 1,4AD, it works for me. Well it works well enough, and it used to be legal. I would have probably ridden a bicycle or two but I really feel no need to go stronger than that. Maybe one day, if I really care to.

Had to get away from my paper for a bit. I'm doing a causal argument on how modern autmatics are killing the manual transmission.

[Exane]

none taken... takes a lot to offend me ******* :}

15-20 lbs w/your sh*t all yellow and white spotted cause your liver is going to sh*t....... vitamins are better

I like formadrol cause I know it works....

The rest... I have some stuff accumulating on my "supp stash shelf"

No liver problems, I hadn't drank for a year before I rode and supplemented milk thistle, hawthorn berries, cycle support, and liver aid for over a month before I ran.

And you need to take orals (PHs) anyways when you're on vitamins

I agree on formadrol though

[Eruption]

The drills are so you will never run out of stuff to talk about while conversing

[Fire8085]

why? its not something alot of people would talk openingly about, specially to people that dont really know.



10-15 lbs of LBM isnt as easy as you would think. Gains come someone easy when your around 140-170, but start to get peak and get extremely hard. even with help, gaining an extra 5lbs of LBM is hard.

Dont take this the wrong way, but even with gear, theres no way your gonna gain 50 lbs of lbm in a year.

254 ng/dl is pretty much low. its in the "normal" range, but its its on the very bottom and border line low. if you fasted and stayed up all night the day before your test and went in groggy, tired, feeling like shiet, you could make that level even lower.

fwiw, if it bothers you that much, why dont you just do it? (seriously not trying to come off dicked bro)

your pretty lean now, and at 6' 176, i can see you getting around 210-215. but once your up there, dont expect to jump to 270 just because your taking something.

Sorry brah, this wasn't a shot at you. I have just seen people who tell others that they can get to their level with good diet and training (aforementioned stats). I guess it was just a knee jerk reaction but it's just irritating to me when I keep my clients motivated but I tell them realistic possibilities.

My 10-15 pound figure would be within the next few years (natural) then the other weight would be over the course of about half a decade (with help). I know vitamins aren't a miracle, but I just have this idea in my head that I may want to compete in a natural show someday and I don't want to be a person who has cycled before the 2 year allowance and then enter the show. I mean have you seen some of these natural guys? Either 1/10000000 genetics (with crazy test levels) or they at least took something...even if it was mild.

My test levels indicate to me that even if I boosted my levels by a few factors, I would probably get bigger a bit quicker. Maybe this is broscience but I mean, vitamins raise you to the 1000s and the gains come a lot quicker. What would the case be if I had a test levels that are 3x the current amount?

IDK, maybe I'm pissed at my own genetics and am jealous.

[DERJEVPOO]

The drills are so you will never run out of stuff to talk about while conversing

So you just sit around the house and talk to yourself? In the mirror or what?




Morning people, this is going to be a ****ty job

[John$Galt]

what'd I miss?

spent the last two days running, lifting, fishing, golfing, and drinking.

fuk yeah.

[rob112]

Transformer 3 was that ****. I laughed, I cried, I cheered. Live, Laugh, Love <3
Go see it!

[Caesar735]

Transformer 3 was that ****. I laughed, I cried, I cheered. Live, Laugh, Love <3
Go see it!

shes so hot, right?

[DERJEVPOO]

what'd I miss?

spent the last two days running, lifting, fishing, golfing, and drinking.

fuk yeah.

Don't think anything important

Where the hell is everybody at?

[1987GN]

Sorry brah, this wasn't a shot at you. I have just seen people who tell others that they can get to their level with good diet and training (aforementioned stats). I guess it was just a knee jerk reaction but it's just irritating to me when I keep my clients motivated but I tell them realistic possibilities.

My 10-15 pound figure would be within the next few years (natural) then the other weight would be over the course of about half a decade (with help). I know vitamins aren't a miracle, but I just have this idea in my head that I may want to compete in a natural show someday and I don't want to be a person who has cycled before the 2 year allowance and then enter the show. I mean have you seen some of these natural guys? Either 1/10000000 genetics (with crazy test levels) or they at least took something...even if it was mild.

My test levels indicate to me that even if I boosted my levels by a few factors, I would probably get bigger a bit quicker. Maybe this is broscience but I mean, vitamins raise you to the 1000s and the gains come a lot quicker. What would the case be if I had a test levels that are 3x the current amount?

IDK, maybe I'm pissed at my own genetics and am jealous.

The reason you hear that is because if they told you "well, I juice, but its still hard work" you'd attribute everything they gained to the juice, and not their dedication. Thats why people lie-the ignorance of the masses.

To put on 10lb of lbm in a year on juice is still a struggle. A friend is in his 30s and struggles to get 3-4lb of mass a cycle (mind you he is 5'8 230lbs,9-10%bf).

You can't explain it to someone until they've seen it for themselves. Like riding a bike and then moving to downhill racing-once you've learned to ride a bike you know just how hard it is for those guys who race, but you never would have known had you not learned to ride a bike.

Hopefully that makes some sense.

[Tiffany Wantsmore]

Evening guise

Hot and sunny today Took the bf's mother up to the garden centre, then came back and took the dog swimming. If nothing else, it's de-crusted his beard.

[kineticforce]

Yep, I'll be flying into NC unless something changes. I doubt that will happen though, I have orders at least to my next station. If it was Cali, Beau could just jump into the sky and punch the plane lol.

either way - you know where to find me .... not a problem at all bro

No liver problems, I hadn't drank for a year before I rode and supplemented milk thistle, hawthorn berries, cycle support, and liver aid for over a month before I ran. And you need to take orals (PHs) anyways when you're on vitamins

need? I was under the impression from what Ive heard that you dont need to while you're taking vitamin Txc

Transformer 3 was that ****. I laughed, I cried, I cheered. Live, Laugh, Love <3 Go see it!

what.a.*******

The reason you hear that is because if they told you "well, I juice, but its still hard work" you'd attribute everything they gained to the juice, and not their dedication. Thats why people lie-the ignorance of the masses.

To put on 10lb of lbm in a year on juice is still a struggle. A friend is in his 30s and struggles to get 3-4lb of mass a cycle (mind you he is 5'8 230lbs,9-10%bf).

You can't explain it to someone until they've seen it for themselves. Like riding a bike and then moving to downhill racing-once you've learned to ride a bike you know just how hard it is for those guys who race, but you never would have known had you not learned to ride a bike.

Hopefully that makes some sense.

ok than whats the first + second time gains look like?

[Eruption]

So you just sit around the house and talk to yourself? In the mirror or what?

Morning people, this is going to be a ****ty job

do it in public



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[DERJEVPOO]

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yeah dude i have to drive like 30 miles just for cell service

feelsprimitiveman

do it in public



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Must be what that homeless looking guy was doing on LV BLVD.

[rob112]

Yes, optimus is hot as ****! Lol

Kfed, They're robot life forms, not gay

Inb4contradictionlololol

[1987GN]

either way - you know where to find me .... not a problem at all bro
need? I was under the impression from what Ive heard that you dont need to while you're taking vitamin Txc
what.a.*******
ok than whats the first + second time gains look like?

instead of asking a million questions, why don't you just try it yourself?

[John$Galt]

instead of asking a million questions, why don't you just try it yourself?

sup GN? use the welder yet?

[1987GN]

sup GN? use the welder yet?

its getting picked up this weekend

how you been maistro?

[kineticforce]

yeah dude i have to drive like 30 miles just for cell service
feelsprimitiveman

wow......umm didnt know......so uhhh ....yeah... sorry

Yes, optimus is hot as ****! Lol
Kfed, They're robot life forms, not gay Inb4contradictionlololol

I cant really help you have some oddball fettish with robots and humans... and Im guessing aliens and anal probes but hey I DONT JUDGE **walks away slowly**

instead of asking a million questions, why don't you just try it yourself?

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[DERJEVPOO]

wow......umm didnt know......so uhhh ....yeah... sorry

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Stupid Dale Carnegie making me read each chapter twice

[John$Galt]

its getting picked up this weekend

how you been maistro?

nice.

i've been the same. can't complain, mayne.

[1987GN]

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well you're kinda asking me impossible questions, so I can't really answer them.

I mean what if you got sick halfway through? What if your training or diet isn't 100%? What if you miss injections? What if you're already near your genetic potential?

Its all relative to the person. Someone could gain 20lbs on 300mg/week, another might need 600mg/week to gain the same amount.

You're older than most who begin to try it, so your levels will already be low as a baseline. So perhaps you might see more gains from a beginner dosage than others might-because you're starting from a lower baseline. Get what I mean?

nice.

i've been the same. can't complain, mayne.

Good to hear.

I think I'm gonna order some Piracetam to try out. I tried it once during finals week and for pulling an all-nighter and being physically exhausted, I was able to remember an astonishing amount of material that I covered. I figure it can't hurt to try at work when I'm learning new things. 800mg in the morning, and 800 with lunch perhaps?

If anyone has any input on how to dose Piracetam (Darkshines, you out there??) please feel free to add in your 2 cents.

[spectre86]

how does one know what their "natural potential" is though?

couldnt really tell you tbh. but does it matter? everyone puts on a few lbs and gains strength the first few months. it slows down after awhile. i guess keep waiting and trying your lg stacks till you feel it doesnt do anything? im not sure how to answer that bro.

Sorry brah, this wasn't a shot at you. I have just seen people who tell others that they can get to their level with good diet and training (aforementioned stats). I guess it was just a knee jerk reaction but it's just irritating to me when I keep my clients motivated but I tell them realistic possibilities.

My 10-15 pound figure would be within the next few years (natural) then the other weight would be over the course of about half a decade (with help). I know vitamins aren't a miracle, but I just have this idea in my head that I may want to compete in a natural show someday and I don't want to be a person who has cycled before the 2 year allowance and then enter the show. I mean have you seen some of these natural guys? Either 1/10000000 genetics (with crazy test levels) or they at least took something...even if it was mild.

My test levels indicate to me that even if I boosted my levels by a few factors, I would probably get bigger a bit quicker. Maybe this is broscience but I mean, vitamins raise you to the 1000s and the gains come a lot quicker. What would the case be if I had a test levels that are 3x the current amount?

IDK, maybe I'm pissed at my own genetics and am jealous.

no worries bro, i didnt take it as a shot, was just answering your question.

your choice, 10-15 lbs of the next FEW YEARS.. not everyone wants to wait a few years... again its personal choice.

again your choice about wanting to compete in a natural show. not everyone wants to, or compete in general

vitamins raise you in that 2000-5000 range depending on dose. even you had 3x your current levels of 260, you would still be in the high end of normal. yes your 260 level is a hinder to your gains. so your choice is to except it, or change it. (again im not trying to come off rude, so please dont take it that way, and if i am, i appologize)

The reason you hear that is because if they told you "well, I juice, but its still hard work" you'd attribute everything they gained to the juice, and not their dedication. Thats why people lie-the ignorance of the masses.
To put on 10lb of lbm in a year on juice is still a struggle. A friend is in his 30s and struggles to get 3-4lb of mass a cycle (mind you he is 5'8 230lbs,9-10%bf).

You can't explain it to someone until they've seen it for themselves. Like riding a bike and then moving to downhill racing-once you've learned to ride a bike you know just how hard it is for those guys who race, but you never would have known had you not learned to ride a bike.

Hopefully that makes some sense.

the overwelming lack of correct knowledge= the amount of BS knowledge out there. specially when you hear about a friend of a friend of a friend that knew this guy that dated a friends sisiter that had a brother who lifted weights, VS talking to someone first hand who actually KNOWS wtf they are talking about

and that 10lbs of lbm might come on easy when your 5'10, 150 lbs at like 14%. but like your said about your friend, 5'8 230lbs at 9% is just so far beyond what someone would be "normally" you cant expect someone to keep making those 10lb gains.

if that was the case, cuttler would be 5'10 400lbs at like 8% by the time hes 40 years old.

ok than whats the first + second time gains look like?

well you're kinda asking me impossible questions, so I can't really answer them.

I mean what if you got sick halfway through? What if your training or diet isn't 100%? What if you miss injections? What if you're already near your genetic potential?

Its all relative to the person. Someone could gain 20lbs on 300mg/week, another might need 600mg/week to gain the same amount.

You're older than most who begin to try it, so your levels will already be low as a baseline. So perhaps you might see more gains from a beginner dosage than others might-because you're starting from a lower baseline. Get what I mean?

adding to what GN said.

how much are you running?
what are you running?
how long are you running it?
are you trying to gain overall mass? lbm? strength?
how old are you?
how long have you been lifting?

etc.

if we are talking about someone say, 6'0 180lbs with around 8% bf, in their 30s, so their levels might be slightly on the low side, but been lifting for awhile. if they ran a mild-average dose, id say a realistic 12-15 lbs with keeping around 9. after about a 2 month period. just a rough guess

[Caesar735]

Just bought an 2011 Porsche boxster, it's actually a lot more fun than you'd think

I'll post cool pics tmrw morning

[DERJEVPOO]

Just bought an 2011 Porsche boxster, it's actually a lot more fun than you'd think

I'll post cool pics tmrw morning

Ballin

[Eruption]

Is it a hotwheels car?

[rob112]

I cant really help you have some oddball fettish with robots and humans... and Im guessing aliens and anal probes but hey I DONT JUDGE **walks away slowly**

Hey man, were just splitting hairs at this point...jogs away at a moderate pace


EDIT: Boy I'll tell you...riding a bicycle seems so tempting. In no way am I saying it isn't still hard work, just making that clear. If something went bad with it or something I don't think I'd forgive myself. Risk reward of life though. I'm aware that nothing bad happens to "most" people.

[Exane]

On genetic limit: I was a tiny mofo when I started lifting, I never thought I'd break 175 with my frame yet here I am sitting at just under 200 and still growing, not on shiit.

Yes, gains start slowing down, no matter what. It all depends on what you are willing to do to get past those plateaus though. Are you a cheater if you take vitamins? Depends on who you ask, but most importantly, it depends on what YOU think.