I keep reading conflicting things. For awhile, I had read some here and in Robert Kenndy's Encylopedia of bodybuilding that Pull ups are for lat width while bent over rows adds thickness, yet I read some people here now say the other way around.
I would like to know what people think and if they could show explantions on how they would say example bent over rows add width.
And before anyone says "do both", I do plan on using both after I finish starting strength. Right now, as I do SS, I am working on also getting to do one pull up as on my day for bench pressing. And before anyone says "Don't F with the program", Ripptoe clearly states in the second edition of Starting Strength book that pull ups are okay for assitence.
Thanks. I like learning new things as I lift.
05-24-2011, 10:15 AM #1
Pull ups and Bent over rows: thickness or width?
05-24-2011, 10:17 AM #2
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05-24-2011, 10:34 AM #3
This thick vs. wide thing is very confusing. Muscles are roughly tubes right? So like a circle face? Does this mean thickening and widening exercises both change the shape of muscle fibers so that the face goes from circle to oval?
If it were increasing uniformly, you'd think the tube would get both wider and thicker...
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I do not have the manuel at the moment since I am on vaction at the moment, but there are a few more in there.
Anyways, thanks for the reponses everyone. I take it then that rows=thickness, Pull ups=widthness.
Also, I think in the Starting Strength FAQ, someone should put up the list of assitence lifts authorized by the book only. Also, someone should put up the purpose of the Power Clean and Power Snatch and why Bent over rows are not okay replacements even if Glen Pedley says they are okay.
05-24-2011, 07:16 PM #11
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i dont know man. i would still say that in my opinion rows are for the width and maybe even make your lats a seem a half inch lower (longer looking) and pullups with the wide grip can wprk more in the middle of your back and stretch your lats when your hanging. so if they are working more in the middle of the back how is it for width. the closer the grip on any lift will work father outside of the muscle...in my opinion.-TEXass-
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