So i just bought a bike to help with my "cut" and after going on my bike ride i could barely walk and it felt like my quads where destroyed..now if im riding my bike 4 times a week and doing a heavy leg day once a week am i overtraining my legs or what??? Reps till im out
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Thread: Overtraining legs???
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05-17-2011, 10:16 PM #4
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yeah of course your body (legs) is/are going to be sore you have introduced a new stress
into the equation. however once adaptation sets in like most things you will find your "groove" for lack of a better term.a few other things I would
1)avoid failure..weight training that brings you to or past failure is no good when
seeking to increase the frequency you perform a task in this case lower body exercise
**note IM NOT SAYING FAILURE HAS NO PLACE IN THE EQUATIONwhat I 'm saying is
leave a few in the tank when you squat and or pull
2)overtraining as I know it is reaching a point beyond the bodies recovery ability
which like most things is very individual ....that being said unless your beating the crap out of your self (I'm speaking of like beatings by the hour) then your body will adapt and adjust
meal frequency,training volume,intensity(yeah I know meal frequency has nothing to do with your question it just so happens to be somehthing that can be affected by adaptation..you would be amazed
3)you can if you want to be "safe" moderate the training volume when you lift"you can always think of many reasons not to do anything. But how many people are willing to search for a reason [a good one] to do something" " in life there are good choices and bad choices and in between there are doors"
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05-18-2011, 06:10 AM #7
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Don't be so afraid of overtraining. It doesn't happen overnight. Riding your bike is an endurance exercise. You can still hit your legs with heavy weights on your leg day. As long as you're getting enough sleep and proper nutrition you'll be fine.
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05-18-2011, 06:17 AM #8
Overtraining can happen for many reasons. The biggest is the taxing of your central nervous system. If CNS is not recovered, you're muscles wont. I don't care if you ride today, do chest tomorrow...it doesn't matter.
The good news is that it actually takes a while to have nuero problems like that and the feeling of muscle fatique isn't really the only symptom.
Outside of that, the biggest piece of the equation is your diet. You have to eat in a way that provides at least close to the nutrients necessary, even when dieting to lean out. This is one reason the process takes a while....unless, of course, your goal is to be lighter but the same body comp.
Riding puts stress on your legs but, while there is overlap, the muscle fibers are not all the same. In short, I think you'll be just fine. Don't kill it on the cardio. Slow and steady wins the race. If you're making progress with 20 minutes of cardio 5 times a week, why do 45, right?
If you are overtraining, here are some symptoms:
Easily Fatiqued
No matter how much you sleep you don't feel rested
Night Sweats
Cool and clamy sweatiness when working out
General feeling of being not so well
Always sore
Joints begin to hurt
....not comprehensive but you get the idea.
In short, overtraining is a real thing and it can happen; however, feeling like your in boot camp doesnt = "overtraining"."The best gift that you can give your children is to Love their Mother"
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05-18-2011, 06:23 AM #9
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I get the feeling OP was looking for someone to tell him to back off on his leg training. Rasputin gave him the right answer and he wasn't happy. anti-steroids gives him a great answer and he keys in on the part where AS says to moderate volume and the part about avoiding failure if looking to increase frequency.
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05-18-2011, 06:30 AM #10
Most guys don't get it. Not aiming this at the op perse.
I know, for me at least, 20 minutes in the weight room is enough. I can literally destroy myself with 2 or 3 good sets on each body part. Part of it is experience. And once you compete, you develop a far greater mind muscle connection.
But, the point is this, once the nail is set, it doesn't make sense to keep swinging the Hammer. Once you stimulate the muscle, the only thing you'll acheive by pushing yourself into oblivion is working the muscle beyond your recovery ability. Even with a calorie surpluss, gear and 12 hours of sleep a night, there is a limit; it's one worth respecting."The best gift that you can give your children is to Love their Mother"
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Ahh okay.
Then yeah, as the others said, your body will adapt to the added cardio. In the short term, you might notice some excess fatigue and maybe a little weakening, but it won't take long for the body to get used to all the biking and your leg days should be just fine (as rasputin said, I'd probably avoid the long bike rides before leg day).-
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05-18-2011, 09:56 AM #15
Dude.
You can't ask if something is overtraining before you do it or start doing it. If you somehow overtrain your legs, you will get a simple signal-cramps, until you back of again.
Now, unrelated, is bike riding the best option for leg development, i wouldn't bet on it. Destroying your quads and making them grow, not always the same thing.bb.com, a place that turned Deadlift into a forearm isolation exercise
and a place where 99% of 21 year olds have bad back and knees.
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05-18-2011, 10:02 AM #16
No biking day before and hard cardio day of is fine though. At least Wendler says something similar with prowler conditioning in his ebook.
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