How do you think Kaz would do as a strongman today?

[arnold7521]

i think he would be a champ almost every year at wsm. No one can compete with the drive of kaz the mans a legend

[Torrtrefireto]

i think he would be a champ almost every year at wsm. No one can compete with the drive of kaz the mans a legend

He's 57 and hasn't competed in any strength sport for over 20 years

[PaleoNoob]

He's 57 and hasn't competed in any strength sport for over 20 years

I assume he means Kaz in his prime.

But given that the weights have grown considerably since his time, I don't think you could take Kaz fresh out of the "time machine", and throw him into competitions.

However with access to the same training methods and drugs today's competitors are using, I have no doubt Kaz could get as strong as any of them.

[moosewarrior]

i think he would be a champ almost every year at wsm. No one can compete with the drive of kaz the mans a legend

back in kazmier day AAS were not around so if he competed today and was able to use AAS he would be invincible considering how big and strong he managed to get naturally back in his era

[arnold7521]

I assume he means Kaz in his prime.

But given that the weights have grown considerably since his time, I don't think you could take Kaz fresh out of the "time machine", and throw him into competitions.

However with access to the same training methods and drugs today's competitors are using, I have no doubt Kaz could get as strong as any of them.

this repped

[sirwazzles]

Depends on how you're looking at it. If you're asking if he could have been good today given he lived and trained as those of today's era have, then yeah, he probably could have been good.

However, if you're asking if you could just implant what he used to be in today's comps, then I'd say no, he wouldn't be that good. Back then it was fairly rare to get a chance just to train with the equipment. Because of that, a lot of what was done was just manhandled with no sense of technicality. That may have worked then as everyone was in the same boat. But today it's easy to get your hands on equipment. So someone with just as much strength as the next well-practiced guy wouldn't be able to hit the same numbers because of their lack of technique and experience.

[arnold7521]

Anyone know also if there is any or what testing they do at wsm. I looked up on google but it was all people trolling

[sirwazzles]

Anyone know also if there is any or what testing they do at wsm. I looked up on google but it was all people trolling

I recall reading Ort say that they are tested at WSM. I remember thinking that weird. But I dunno where I read that.

Also, I'm pretty sure Pudge was stripped of a WSM bronze some years back for testing positive for something. I don't know if it was AAS or not though.

[DesireToGrow]

I recall reading Ort say that they are tested at WSM. I remember thinking that weird. But I dunno where I read that.

Also, I'm pretty sure Pudge was stripped of a WSM bronze some years back for testing positive for something. I don't know if it was AAS or not though.

For some reason, I thought it was *******.

[Torrtrefireto]

I recall reading Ort say that they are tested at WSM. I remember thinking that weird. But I dunno where I read that.

Also, I'm pretty sure Pudge was stripped of a WSM bronze some years back for testing positive for something. I don't know if it was AAS or not though.

almost positive it was amphetamines

[BIG_FAT_SLAPPER]

Yeah they get tested for stuff that could potentially give them a heart attack on TV. AAS are fine for Strongman.

Kaz if around today would definitely be up there with today's access to equipment. He has got just as much talent as today's guys if not more and had ridiculous determination. He benched 300kg which barely of the strongmen today can do, apart from probably Savickas.

Personally I see him as the same as Savickas in terms of strengths, he just looked better and put more of a show on for the cameras.

[someonefat]

he would do alright at wsm

arnold and such he would lose to the bigger guys where more max strength type stuff

he was big for the time but compared to a big z, shaw, holland ext he is small

[BIGbird61]

I recall reading Ort say that they are tested at WSM. I remember thinking that weird. But I dunno where I read that.

Also, I'm pretty sure Pudge was stripped of a WSM bronze some years back for testing positive for something. I don't know if it was AAS or not though.

it was *******

idk why recreational drugs cant just be left out

[simp3204]

Yeah they get tested for stuff that could potentially give them a heart attack on TV. AAS are fine for Strongman.

Kaz if around today would definitely be up there with today's access to equipment. He has got just as much talent as today's guys if not more and had ridiculous determination. He benched 300kg which barely of the strongmen today can do, apart from probably Savickas.

Personally I see him as the same as Savickas in terms of strengths, he just looked better and put more of a show on for the cameras.

Bench press doesn't do anything for strongmen therefore most don't really practice the lift on a regular basis if at all, unless they also compete in powerlifting.

[austin.j.taylor]

back in kazmier day AAS were not around so if he competed today and was able to use AAS he would be invincible considering how big and strong he managed to get naturally back in his era

If you arent aware steroids where first manufactured in the 30's and common useage was reported as early as the 40's in eastern Europe. There was definitely steroids around in Kaz's time and I would almost guarantee that he was using them.

[EasternHammer]

I think Kaz would still be first-class in squats, deadlifts, stones, medleys of any kind. The only event Kaz is a bit behind in is the log press...I could be wrong but I don't believe Kaz ever pressed a 400# log. Nowadays Savickas is doing 450#

[moosewarrior]

If you arent aware steroids where first manufactured in the 30's and common useage was reported as early as the 40's in eastern Europe. There was definitely steroids around in Kaz's time and I would almost guarantee that he was using them.

NO, NO...NOOOOOO!!!!!1 Bill kazmier is natural, I messaged him on ******** and he said no he was all natural.

[BIG_FAT_SLAPPER]

I think Kaz would still be first-class in squats, deadlifts, stones, medleys of any kind. The only event Kaz is a bit behind in is the log press...I could be wrong but I don't believe Kaz ever pressed a 400# log. Nowadays Savickas is doing 450#

Have you ever seen Kaz press a log???? he pressed the WR completely and utterly strict with complete ease. He lifted that much because he didn't have to lift more, he could of if he wanted to. His shoulders are by far his strongest asset. The only guy at the moment with comparable shoulders is Savickas, who does have stronger shoulders tbf, no one else has. Yes Kokyleav would most likely jerk a higher weight up, but Kaz would just do push press and beat him.

A 300kg bench press is a very rare lift today still. His shoulders back then was immense and still would be today.

Kaz is similar to Savickas in every way, he just looks better. Obviously strength goes up over time, but if Kaz was around today he would be comparable in strength to Savickas. They're 2 perfectly built lifting machines. The special 2 with no lifting weakness imo. Not many strength athletes out there that can say they can lift with the best in bench, ohp, squat and deadlift. Only these 2 come to mind.

An event like the Arnolds would be perfect for Kaz, he's not a lot smaller than todays strongmen.

[BIG_FAT_SLAPPER]

it was *******

idk why recreational drugs cant just be left out

For the reason I put! AAS are allowed, it allows for bigger lifts and more of a spectacle. But they don't want them sniffing coke in the middle of Africa under silly temperatures while repping a 360kg deadlift 10x and having a heart attack on TV. Bodybuilding and wrestling get enough stick for steroids and heart attacks, strongman actually doesn't even after Sigmarson dying. So they probably want to keep it that way, so no coke and amphetamines means a lot less likely chance of no heart attacks. It wasn't a matter of Pudz celebrating coming 3rd and going out that night having a few lines and they DQ'd him. He was taking the coke because Viraystuck and Savickas was handing him his ass and he needed a boost.

A pretty good deal imo

[rwsmith3623]

If you arent aware steroids where first manufactured in the 30's and common useage was reported as early as the 40's in eastern Europe. There was definitely steroids around in Kaz's time and I would almost guarantee that he was using them.

came in here to say this

[moosewarrior]

came in here to say this

kaz is all natural bro, i PM'd him on ********

[DavetheDog]

The Pudz positive test was a political thing.

[d-benjamin]

back in kazmier day AAS were not around so if he competed today and was able to use AAS he would be invincible considering how big and strong he managed to get naturally back in his era

Really? They weren't around in the 80s?.....

[BrianLD]

Problem with trolling is, if that's all you see, how long until it's all you know? Dun, Dun, Dun



Kaz modern day? He'd just use his connections with the administration and win by default.

Kaz in his prime? It''d turn into a war between him and Savickas.

[moosewarrior]

Really? They weren't around in the 80s?.....

stop hating on kill bazmier

Kaz modern day? He'd just use his connections with the administration and win by default.

Kaz in his prime? It''d turn into a war between him and Savickas.

thats not fair because Zavickas stacks creatine with glutamine

[breathinglife]

I don't think Kaz in his prime would be top 10 today, or even top 20. The guys now are just at an entirely new level. The stones, log press, etc., are just so much heavier now.

[Rawngus]

I don't think Kaz in his prime would be top 10 today, or even top 20. The guys now are just at an entirely new level. The stones, log press, etc., are just so much heavier now.

maybe so but i think hed be in the top for pl still