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    What the lowest # cals you've gone?

    I asked this question in the keto section, but got two replies and one being a female (hard to compair) and the other said <500cals a day... <- lol 500cals

    I'm wondering HOW LOW some of you HAD to go to reach your "pro" conditioning (Dont have to be a pro, just ppl who have gotten shredded). Obviously you want to keep it as high as possible to keep muscle mass, but if your balls to the wall and need to drop more fat, how low have you/would you go?

    Looking for your all around macros....

    - Daily intake
    - Protein G
    - Carb G
    - Fat G

    and while were at it, post what you weighed at the time.

    Thanks for any help!!

    (P.S. It would be even 10x more helpfull for those to post who where on keto at the time)
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    I've heard some very knowledgable competitors say that going much below 10x bodyweight (daily cals) for any significant period of time is a pretty big no-no.

    As for me, my current numbers are the lowest I've ever experienced:

    40f/130c/225p (4x) 20f/325c/200p (1x)
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    The lowest I got was 1840 cals.
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    On that documentary I Want to Look Like That Guy, he got down to 1200 cals before his show. He started at 2500 though at the beginning of his 24 week cut.
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    2600 was the lowest I got to when I won my pro card. I also had bi-weekly refeeds at 3300 cals. This is completely individual but anyone going <500 cals will not reach pro conditioning, but they will however reach pro muscle loss.
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    Sometimes I get as low as 300 but thats with having all my fruits and meat for the day. stick with veggies and no skin chicken(baked)
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    Originally Posted by bwelch1985 View Post
    I've heard some very knowledgable competitors say that going much below 10x bodyweight (daily cals) for any significant period of time is a pretty big no-no.

    As for me, my current numbers are the lowest I've ever experienced:

    40f/130c/225p (4x) 20f/325c/200p (1x)
    so 1780 cal / 2280

    interesting, how much u currently weigh and how far out are you from your comp?

    @ Rsardina lol thats wat im looking at for my next bulk :P

    But thanks guys, if anyone else feels like contributing please do!

    I started my cut @ 193ish lbs and 2000ish cals 9 1/2 weeks ago

    Currently @ 160lbss and 1850/1870 with 4 1/2 weeks out (so i only cut 150cals in 9.5 weeks and still lost 33lbs, probly means I started to low on cals but hey its my first time!)

    My macros are..

    1870/135F/131P/45C FOR KETO (70cals + 18carbs are from a whole can of green beans a day)

    Then I refeed once a week at around 3000-3500cals ~600carb/185p/<80F
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    Originally Posted by Rsardinia View Post
    2600 was the lowest I got to when I won my pro card. I also had bi-weekly refeeds at 3300 cals. This is completely individual but anyone going <500 cals will not reach pro conditioning, but they will however reach pro muscle loss.
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    I got down to 1850 this prep - not a pro though... yet
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    Originally Posted by Agostage View Post
    I got down to 1850 this prep - not a pro though... yet
    No need to be a pro, competitors looking to get shredded.

    What did u weigh at the time?
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    Originally Posted by Rsardinia View Post
    2600 was the lowest I got to when I won my pro card. I also had bi-weekly refeeds at 3300 cals. This is completely individual but anyone going <500 cals will not reach pro conditioning, but they will however reach pro muscle loss.
    son....of......a........b*tch. Im uber jelly. Thats more cals than I am at NOW lol. Id kill for ur metabolism........literally lol.


    Im not pro nor super shredded but as far as the lowest cals Ive been on......

    20f/145c/180p - 1480 cals

    It was not fun

    after stalled for weeks we actually brought cho slowly up to 250ish and I started sropping weight again.
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    I'm currently maintaining on around 3,400, and putting on about 1lb a week on 3,550.

    When it comes to dieting, I reckon I'll only go down as much as 2,500.. we shall see though.

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    lol... I went down to about 500-1,000 cals a day for 3 weeks getting ready for a show back in high school. Talk about a crash diet. Felt awful. Never would do it again. Surprisingly I didn't lose too much mass and did okay in the show. It was a long time ago and we did crazy things getting ready for shows back in the 1980s...
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalOak View Post
    My macros are..

    1870/135F/131P/45C FOR KETO (70cals + 18carbs are from a whole can of green beans a day)

    Then I refeed once a week at around 3000-3500cals ~600carb/185p/<80F
    Any reason why your protein intake is at 130g? I thought protein intake should be kept at 0.9g x lbm on keto?
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    Originally Posted by Comeaux418 View Post
    Sometimes I get as low as 300 but thats with having all my fruits and meat for the day. stick with veggies and no skin chicken(baked)
    That's just plain old unhealthy.
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    I once had to eat less than 500 cal a day. But it was for something entirely different- wrestling :d
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    Lowest I got to was 32f/40c/185p - 1188cals

    I literally felt like death on those days, but the bi weekly refeeds made up for it. Meh, we all make mistakes, I plan to never make that one again LOL
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    Originally Posted by Sugooy View Post
    Any reason why your protein intake is at 130g? I thought protein intake should be kept at 0.9g x lbm on keto?
    I believe its .8 but either way my lbm is like 150lbs so its exact...

    Thanks for all the replys, For now im remaining cals but deff upping my cardio!

    I think im going to go with the rule NEVER GO BELOW 10X BW, sounds fair to me.

    I actually have a super fast metab but jst started my cals too dang low. Its all good alright tho im not in a bad spot jst yet.

    Thanks again, and keep em coming!
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    Originally Posted by Webber91 View Post
    Lowest I got to was 32f/40c/185p - 1188cals

    I literally felt like death on those days, but the bi weekly refeeds made up for it. Meh, we all make mistakes, I plan to never make that one again LOL
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    got down to about 225/75/50... so about 1650 and i only got to about 10% bf... fml
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    got down to about 225/75/50... so about 1650 and i only got to about 10% bf... fml
    yikes, were u doing ne cardio?
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalOak View Post
    yikes, were u doing ne cardio?

    the entire time. i ended up with 5 sessions a week... three 30-40 min low intensity and 2 15-20 min HIIT
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    Originally Posted by TheNaturalOak View Post
    No need to be a pro, competitors looking to get shredded.

    What did u weigh at the time?
    Well it was yesterday - and I was 174lbf
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    Maybe you needed a decent refeed and to change things up. No reason why you couldn't have gone below 10%.
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    yeah. to be honest i cant remember if i was doing those or not.. i know i had a cheat meal once a week.. but that was about it
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    Well it was yesterday - and I was 174lbf
    I see, well i also saw ur journal and it looks like you will b competing this weekend!?!

    Goodluck tho, size carb up pic looking shredded. I just dont see myself getting that lean in the next 4 weeks
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    My body is a little weird. I have trouble growing on 3800-4000 cals but I have trouble dropping weight at 2500 calories. Lowest was last contest on my depletion days one week out at around 1900cals a day (225p/115c/50f)
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