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[ch3v3ll3]

205 for reps for multiple sets is pretty awesome, Tom.

[viennafat]

OCD


205 on inclines looks heavy to me and beasting it with the 185 x 8
Strong way to buff the tris with 16 rep sets on the perfect push-ups
Pressing is looking really strong now Tom

Thanks a lot.
Pressing is going pretty well.
My shoulder never feels great, but it's holding up.

205 for reps for multiple sets is pretty awesome, Tom.

Thanks, man.
I was happy with that. It's been a long road back to here.

I'm also holding back just a tad. To protect my shoulder but also because I don't want to fail. So I'm being a little cautious.

[rallyum]

Why can i never rep you, it's like our love was never meant to be. If i had a wife and two kids, i'd totally leave them for you.

Random question, do you reckon the band work leads to any growth? Like have you seen any growth from the band pulldowns etc? Was actually talking to Andrew about and to me it's sorta like the bowflex, gets you strong but not tanked. Pseudo science answer would be no because there's no dynamic change in the muscle, i.e. there's no real eccentric which is where the muscle grows the most, being torn on the negative. With the band, it just slacks/loses tension.

edit: But then you look at tanked Oly lifters and most of their lifts are pure concentric, pick and drop :/

[viennafat]

Why can i never rep you, it's like our love was never meant to be. If i had a wife and two kids, i'd totally leave them for you.

Is this your round-about way of telling me to leave my wife and two kids and fly to Australia for you?

Due to the Commonwealth, it's easy for me to gain entry. (to your country I mean)

Random question, do you reckon the band work leads to any growth? Like have you seen any growth from the band pulldowns etc? Was actually talking to Andrew about and to me it's sorta like the bowflex, gets you strong but not tanked. Pseudo science answer would be no because there's no dynamic change in the muscle, i.e. there's no real eccentric which is where the muscle grows the most, being torn on the negative. With the band, it just slacks/loses tension.

edit: But then you look at tanked Oly lifters and most of their lifts are pure concentric, pick and drop :/

Interesting question.
It's hard to say if they contributed to any real growth.

I've done the following exercises using bands: Rows (various types), tricep pushdowns, lateral raises, and 1 arm pulldowns.

They can definitely deliver a pretty good pump. I've done high rep sets (15-20) and lower rep sets by using some really thick bands.
I did notice that when doing 1 arm pull downs, I was really able to engage the lats and had more noticeable DOMS the next day vs not doing them.
Not sure if that translates to growth, though.

I think on top of a regular weight lifting routine, they can be a useful tool. But I dunno how much they help with hypertrophy (especially for a non-noob).

[moshvr]

Is this your round-about way of telling me to leave my wife and two kids and fly to Australia for you?

Due to the Commonwealth, it's easy for me to gain entry. (to your country I mean)

lol'd so hard at bold

sick kunts you are

[rallyum]

Is this your round-about way of telling me to leave my wife and two kids and fly to Australia for you?

Due to the Commonwealth, it's easy for me to gain entry. (to your country I mean)

For reals?!

Interesting question.
It's hard to say if they contributed to any real growth.

I've done the following exercises using bands: Rows (various types), tricep pushdowns, lateral raises, and 1 arm pulldowns.

They can definitely deliver a pretty good pump. I've done high rep sets (15-20) and lower rep sets by using some really thick bands.
I did notice that when doing 1 arm pull downs, I was really able to engage the lats and had more noticeable DOMS the next day vs not doing them.
Not sure if that translates to growth, though.

I think on top of a regular weight lifting routine, they can be a useful tool. But I dunno how much they help with hypertrophy (especially for a non-noob).

Great answer, thanks!

Surgeon just wants me to stick to band stuff for anything back related for the rest of my life. Was just wondering if i can still grow -your answer says yes.

This is a pretty nice band alternative for lats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp02bDes1i0

And this guy is really good for band mob/exercises + highly amusing to me for some reason
http://www.youtube.com/user/Schmitty10/videos

[fittofattofit]

Is this your round-about way of telling me to leave my wife and two kids and fly to Australia for you?

Due to the Commonwealth, it's easy for me to gain entry. (to your country I mean)

This might help

Surgeon just wants me to stick to band stuff for anything back related for the rest of my life.

It's the pink dumbbells, leotards and vibrams for you from now on Rally ... maybe with some crystal therapy thrown in to improve your chakras

[rallyum]

It's the pink dumbbells, leotards and vibrams for you from now on Rally ... maybe with some crystal therapy thrown in to improve your chakras

I've also removed wheat and dairy from my diet, as per my naturopath's recommendations. By golly i hope my shoulders don't dislocate anymore

[fittofattofit]

I've also removed wheat and dairy from my diet, as per my naturopath's recommendations. By golly i hope my shoulders don't dislocate anymore

I know ... you're one of these people who is 'allergic to the 21st century'
When I get a patient who lists more than two allergies I know I'm onto a nutter!

I hear that Reiki is good for dislocated shoulders

[rallyum]

I know ... you're one of these people who is 'allergic to the 21st century'
When I get a patient who lists more than two allergies I know I'm onto a nutter!

I hear that Reiki is good for dislocated shoulders

Back in the day, got a tip from Cosmo to hover your hands around a girls ladies bits in order to turn her on, something about the kinetic energy of your hand disrupting the air and making her hairs stand up. Now just imagine that with a gawky asian kid and his first prized white girl, fuking clairvoyant savant

[viennafat]

lol'd so hard at bold

sick kunts you are

For reals?!


Great answer, thanks!

Surgeon just wants me to stick to band stuff for anything back related for the rest of my life. Was just wondering if i can still grow -your answer says yes.

This is a pretty nice band alternative for lats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp02bDes1i0

And this guy is really good for band mob/exercises + highly amusing to me for some reason
http://www.youtube.com/user/Schmitty10/videos

100% fo' real.

Yeah I think you can still get some good work done with bands.
As long as you're not using some wimpy band where you can do 30 reps before failure, you can still do some damage.

Those are great vids, thanks.

This might help
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HA!

It's the pink dumbbells, leotards and vibrams for you from now on Rally ... maybe with some crystal therapy thrown in to improve your chakras

lol

Rally may also want to invest in these:

I've also removed wheat and dairy from my diet, as per my naturopath's recommendations. By golly i hope my shoulders don't dislocate anymore

The no wheat should do the trick, for sure....

I know ... you're one of these people who is 'allergic to the 21st century'
When I get a patient who lists more than two allergies I know I'm onto a nutter!

I hear that Reiki is good for dislocated shoulders

Haha!
I work with a guy who's cousin is allergic to more things than not. And severely allergic at that.
Wheat, dairy, certain meats, gluten, certain fruits, nuts, and something else.

If that ever happened to me I would seriously consider suicide.

Back in the day, got a tip from Cosmo to hover your hands around a girls ladies bits in order to turn her on, something about the kinetic energy of your hand disrupting the air and making her hairs stand up. Now just imagine that with a gawky asian kid and his first prized white girl, fuking clairvoyant savant

lmao

I can only imagine what was going through her head.

[viennafat]

June 12

Legs & Abs

Not worth logging, but whatever.
This session was fast & furious.
More fast than furious though because I only had about 30 minutes.



Front Squats
Warm up
135x8
155x6
155x6
155x6
155x6
135x8

Went right into front squats today.
I think I may focus on them for a while.

The other thing to note is that I really need to work on flexibility.
I was warming up with back squats and the tightness was so apparent. I found it very limiting.
I think it might be one of the reasons for the squatting issues I've been experiencing.



Decline Sit Ups (fairly steep decline)
+10x15
+10x12
+10x10


Planks
A few sets


That's all she wrote.

[fittofattofit]

I think we need to consciously work on flexibility all the time ... we all love getting DOMS but after some of the big sessions the DOMS are bad enough that I hate bending over to pick things up. It's when your glutes/quads/calves/hammies are painful is when you should stretch them because that tightness sets in quickly. I'm so much more flexible than I used to be but I'm still tightasfuk and I reckon I'm only about a third of the way to where I should be. Keep at it Tom

[BabyOilBrah]

Flexibility is a bitch, but if you put the effort in it pays off so much.

[viennafat]

I think we need to consciously work on flexibility all the time ... we all love getting DOMS but after some of the big sessions the DOMS are bad enough that I hate bending over to pick things up. It's when your glutes/quads/calves/hammies are painful is when you should stretch them because that tightness sets in quickly. I'm so much more flexible than I used to be but I'm still tightasfuk and I reckon I'm only about a third of the way to where I should be. Keep at it Tom

You're totally right.
I should really make a bigger effort. I feel like it's a big issue with me. (especially the hammies)

Flexibility is a bitch, but if you put the effort in it pays off so much.

You're right, man.
I need to get on that. I always say to do it and then a few days later I stop.
You look like you have some good flexibility, especially for a tall brah.

[viennafat]

June 13

Pull


BW Pull Ups
12 reps
10 reps
9 reps

1st set felt strong, then I lost some steam.


BB Rows
165x8
195x8
205x8
195x8
165x12

Form not great on the 205.


Landmine Rows
Bar+55x12
Bar+75x11
Bar+75x11


BB Shrugs
245x15
265x16
265x15
265x15


EZ Bar Curls
75x13
75x12 (CG)
75x12 (CG)
75x10 (WG)

Goddamned bicep still doesn't feel too good.
It feels decent when I use the CG on that bar because it's very close to a neutral grip/hammer curl position.


Anyway, all in all it was a good session.

[fittofattofit]

Yeah ... pull-ups, rows and landmines are all looking strong ... you've actually added a lot of weight to your rows over the last few months. Are you massaging your biceps? If there's been a small tear and a bit of scarring then it's one of the bodyparts you can really get your thumb stuck into. Try to massage the tender spot while you're flexing your arm inbetween sets and see if that frees it up

[viennafat]

Thanks Andrew.
You're right, I decided to up the weight with the BB rows because I was always going light for the longest time. (mainly because of lower back tweaks if I remember correctly)

I did massage it a few times, but probably not enough. I think I need to be more aggressive.
Although I really dont like the feeling around that area (distal bicep).

But I'm going to do it right now and think of you while rubbing.

[moshvr]

Last couple pages have so much wtf between you three ....

Unsubbed ...




Good session Tom. Have a good weekend buddy

[fittofattofit]

Thanks Andrew.
You're right, I decided to up the weight with the BB rows because I was always going light for the longest time. (mainly because of lower back tweaks if I remember correctly)

I did massage it a few times, but probably not enough. I think I need to be more aggressive.
Although I really dont like the feeling around that area (distal bicep).

But I'm going to do it right now and think of you while rubbing.

[rallyum]

But I'm going to do it right now and think of you while rubbing.

^ LMFAO

Lie on floor, trap arm under one end of the barbell, roll away.

[viennafat]

Last couple pages have so much wtf between you three ....

Unsubbed ...



Good session Tom. Have a good weekend buddy

LOL! I know.

Thanks, man. You, too.

AHAHAHA!!!

^ LMFAO

Lie on floor, trap arm under one end of the barbell, roll away.

Brilliant!
That is a great way to work that. Thanks.

Nice drawing. You have some untapped talent, it seems.

[viennafat]

Well, fuk.
I had a bit of a shoulder incident yesterday.

Took the kids to a park and there were these monkey bar/rings. So I jumped on to do a few pull ups.
As I descended on the last rep to finish I misjudged the height of these bars. I dropped kind of fast and expected my feet to plant and stop my fall.
But these things were a little too high and I could only reach the ground with my tippy toes.
Long story short my right arm got yanked hard at the shoulder and it hurt like hell. The rest of the day it was really tight and a little painful.

I was worried that I would wake up in rough shape.
It's not too bad but it still hurts and feels pretty tight. And I was planning to do a nice push session today...
I'm hoping this is something minor.

I'm such an idiot....

[viennafat]

June 17

Pull
Week 6 - Magnusson/Ortmayer DL Program

Shoulder feeling better but still feels off.
Thought it would be a better idea to pull and give it another day or so before doing any pressing.


Deadlifts
Warm Up
245x4
245x4
245x4
245x4
275x2
305x2
245x8

Didn't feel great today. My back didnt feel right and my shoulder bothered me a little.
But I still got it done, so that's what matters.
I managed to get small strain in my rear delt (on the other shoulder). Right around where the tricep/delt/lat meet.
That one came out of nowhere. I dunno how I pulled that off. Nothing major though.


DB Concentration Curls
Left
40x13
40x12
40x10

Attempted with the right but it wasn't cooperating.


BB Shrugs
185x20
185x18
185x18

Mix of speed reps, slow reps, and isometric hold reps.



I really didnt want to do anything else based on how I was feeling.
So I just ended it there. The DL's were alright though.
The weights are getting heavy for me. (I know, lol @ 300lbs being heavy)


PS - Rally you cheeky kunt, I tried rolling my bicep with the barbell and fack me did it hurt.
But there was an underlying pleasure there as well. I had also massaged it as per Andrew's advice.
Based on how that barbell felt, I thought my bicep was going to rupture. I'm hoping that was just a feeling and not actually possible.
Will do again as it seemed to really do the trick.

[rallyum]

As long as you don't flail about/try to take off your bicep hard rolling then should be fine. I actually use the skinny part of the bar lol, feelsgoodman

^^ And when my bi's were acting up, did it 1-2x a week. Gone after a month. Trick is to roll the area to free it up/break up any scarring, WAIT 5 minutes, then LIGHT curls to break up any remaining scar tissue and reteach function/get movement back since scar tissue has been blocking everything. Rolling in itself doesn't do anything, just lets you start the rehab, isn't the rehab itself.

edit: if the curls hurt, no weight and just work on getting normal, reverse and hammer curl function back. Crystals also help too, as does a visualisation board and positive thoughts

And take it easy on the shoulder man, i'd look to deload for the next two weeks to let the area settle. If ceebs, just avoid heavy pull since that encourages the pulling out of your shoulder. Push should be fine, since it pushes your shoulder back into joint. Lol, you always find the coolest ways to get injured man haha

[viennafat]

^ Nice.
I will definitely do it again.
Next time I'll try doing light curls afterwards and see how it feels.

My shoulder feels ok now. Just a slight tightness that's still there.
I'll attempt a push session next, but will go light and see how that feels.

I'm a fackin dumbass. That's what it comes down to.

lol @ edit reason.

[fittofattofit]

Great work on those deadlifts Tom .... 305 is close enough to 140kg so I reckon it's heavy enough anyway. It was great to see you finish with that 245 x 8
And LOL at the monkey bar ..... I used to do that sh!t with my kids when they were little but at least I always assumed my feet were a long way from the ground when I let go .... you got what you deserved for being a tall-kunt

About the BB rolling: Rally got me to roll a loaded oly bar across my quads to free them up ..... fuarck that was painful. My legs felt like they were being crushed but the quads felt great afterwards

[viennafat]

Thanks, Andrew.
I probably could've managed 3 reps with the 305 but probably not any more. Just being honest.

lol
True about the monkey bars. I learned my lesson.

A loaded barbell? That must've killed!
Rally is one sick bastard.

[ch3v3ll3]

holy **** 305 x 2 is a fairly big deal for ya right? I remember you were only lifting something like 225 for reps a while back, yes?? Good work!

[viennafat]

holy **** 305 x 2 is a fairly big deal for ya right? I remember you were only lifting something like 225 for reps a while back, yes?? Good work!

Damn right!
Thanks, man.

Due to my lower back problems I've never been able to progress with deadlifts. It was always 2 steps forward, 1.9 steps back.
But the last couple of months I've managed to keep it healthy by being careful.
We'll see how far I can go.