OMG... Xanthan gum

[InclineDBPresss]

Why have I not put this in EVERYTHING ive ever drank since I was born?

1 TBSP of this in 8oz milk and 1 scoop myofusion made the shake into a huge snack-pack-esque glob, about 16oz worth.

Go get it and use it.

[zepplin92]

Where the fuark do you buy??

[desslok]

Where the fuark do you buy??

Most health food stores and some grocery stores. Usually by the spices or baking stuff.

[Autodidactic]

Where the fuark do you buy??

Edit: Well then ^^^^^^

Health food stores.

[Trillios]

Looking into it right now lol. Besides xanthan gum, are there any other products like this that help volumize food?

[jake1224]

Looking into it right now lol. Besides xanthan gum, are there any other products like this that help volumize food?

Use a shrink ray on the rest of the world.

[Trillios]

Use a shrink ray on the rest of the world.

That's...genius! BRB making shrink ray to please my appetite/cravings.

[emergencyx]

Looking into it right now lol. Besides xanthan gum, are there any other products like this that help volumize food?

chia seeds and flax seeds both gel up when mixed with liquid, adding a lot of volume!

[NaLLa8705]

Looking into it right now lol. Besides xanthan gum, are there any other products like this that help volumize food?

Guar Gum

[MikeK46]

Guar Gum

Any difference between guar gam and xanthan gum? Would it matter which one I put in shakes? I've been looking around for this stuff and haven't found it in regular stores, gotta try a specialty health store.

[mannydawg]

Any difference between guar gam and xanthan gum? Would it matter which one I put in shakes? I've been looking around for this stuff and haven't found it in regular stores, gotta try a specialty health store.

they have it online if you really can't find it. Whole foods I think carries it also.

[flinkpoyd01]

I use guar gum, it seems to be cheaper. I can get it at my local regular grocery store, it's Bob's Red Mill brand. It is spendy ($8-9 for a small bag) but it LASTS... you only need 1/2 t or so depending on what you use it for.

[NaLLa8705]

Any difference between guar gam and xanthan gum? Would it matter which one I put in shakes? I've been looking around for this stuff and haven't found it in regular stores, gotta try a specialty health store.

they have it online if you really can't find it. Whole foods I think carries it also.

I think I have seen it at whole foods as well... as far as the differences go, I have only used xanthan gum, and it made my "sludge" taste god awful. Like pure chewing gum, nasty texture... literally threw the mixture away. According to someone in the Sludge Eating Now thread they said save the xanthan gum for shakes and get guar gum for sludge type mixtures.

Funny thing is someone asked what the difference was and they got flamed... but because you 'mAd forum REP' I'm sure someone will chime in with something helpful

[determined4000]

Any difference between guar gam and xanthan gum? Would it matter which one I put in shakes? I've been looking around for this stuff and haven't found it in regular stores, gotta try a specialty health store.

aha

http://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/2010...s-xanthan-gum/

[mannydawg]

aha

http://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/2010...s-xanthan-gum/

cliffs...
Guar Gum for Cold foods
Xanthan Gum for baked good, or acidic foods.

[NaLLa8705]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to determined4000 again"

wtf.... why does the always happen. Maybe because there are only a handful of helpful people in the nutrition forum...

GOOD LINK THANK YOU

[MikeK46]

According to someone in the Sludge Eating Now thread they said save the xanthan gum for shakes and get guar gum for sludge type mixtures.

good to know, will take this into consideration

aha

http://www.bobsredmill.com/blog/2010...s-xanthan-gum/

sweet, thanks. but it says "In general, guar gum is good for cold foods such as ice cream or pastry fillings, while xanthan gum is better for baked goods." this contradicts the post above..my shakes are cold, not far off from ice cream, and they recommend guar gum, not xanthan gum. hmm...

cliffs...
Guar Gum for Cold foods
Xanthan Gum for baked good, or acidic foods.

so guar gum or xanthan gum for protein shakes (blended whey + ice)?

[mannydawg]

good to know, will take this into consideration



sweet, thanks. but it says "In general, guar gum is good for cold foods such as ice cream or pastry fillings, while xanthan gum is better for baked goods." this contradicts the post above..my shakes are cold, not far off from ice cream, and they recommend guar gum, not xanthan gum. hmm...



so guar gum or xanthan gum for protein shakes (blended whey + ice)?

Guar Gum for shakes or sludge. since its cold.

[HunterCML]

I hate reading this. Now I want to go and buy guar/xanthan gum - and they aren't cheap. I'm hoping you don't need to use much since it's pretty costly even for 6-8oz ?

[NaLLa8705]

Mike, I would listen to the Bob's Red Mill blog info. All I have is anecdotal evidence... and we know how people feel about that around here.

[NaLLa8705]

I hate reading this. Now I want to go and buy guar/xanthan gum - and they aren't cheap. I'm hoping you don't need to use much since it's pretty costly even for 6-8oz ?

Check out the link... almost never more than a tablespoon at once

[coals]

xantham gum gets really really old really fast. I used it on everything for like a day, then my bowels were highly unhappy for a while. Now I rarely use it.

[MikeK46]

Mike, I would listen to the Bob's Red Mill blog info. All I have is anecdotal evidence... and we know how people feel about that around here.

I'm making shakes & sludge, not cookies and muffins like the Bob'd Red Mill guys. Your anecdotal evidence is much more relevant to me

[determined4000]

xantham gum gets really really old really fast. I used it on everything for like a day, then my bowels were highly unhappy for a while. Now I rarely use it.

the gums are soluble fiber
You want to get a good balance of soluble and insoluble or else you will end up going to much or not being able to go at all

[gfearRD]

I use both xanthan gum and guar gum in my protein ice cream. That are awesome!!

I only use 1/2 tsp xanthan and 1/4 tsp guar for 500 -600 ml ice cream.

[desslok]

xantham gum gets really really old really fast. I used it on everything for like a day, then my bowels were highly unhappy for a while. Now I rarely use it.

Oh so you were "bulking" <cymbal crash>. Yeah I suppose if you put it on everything would be like sprinkling metamucil on all your food. Locally here it is much easier to find xanthan gum than guar in stores.

[Slovation]

Ive used the NOW foods Guar gum. A little goes a long way. First time I used it I got mad bloat.

[burtonator]

Why have I not put this in EVERYTHING ive ever drank since I was born?

1 TBSP of this in 8oz milk and 1 scoop myofusion made the shake into a huge snack-pack-esque glob, about 16oz worth.

Go get it and use it.

Yeah.... this is a HUGE secret.... I post about it every once in a while.

This might be TOO much. Try adding less but YMMV.

This is a commercial grade food additive for adding bulk and smoothness.

They often use it to avoid adding cream or other expensive (or high calorie ingredients) to keep the drink smooth.

It's also an emulsifier, meaning, it will keep your protein from settling to the bottom of the drink.

If you add JUST the right amount it will make your shake super smooth like ice cream and emulsify the ingredients so they don't fall to the bottom.

For example, add creatine to your shake, the xanthan gum will prevent it from settling to the bottom!

[snrygo]

Why have I not put this in EVERYTHING ive ever drank since I was born?

1 TBSP of this in 8oz milk and 1 scoop myofusion made the shake into a huge snack-pack-esque glob, about 16oz worth.

Go get it and use it.

1. prepare your anus
2. i'd hate to be your toilet

[Malkira]

I've just recently bought both because while cutting I'm a volume eater and wanted to add volume to my sludges without buying casein. The Xanthan gum seemed to bulk up with less needed, and the guar gum didn't bulk as much and gave me some rumbling in my stomach.

I'll try more guar gum in the sludge tonight and see if that helps, but the guar was much cheaper than the xanthan.