I'm doing a push/pull/legs routine; what do you think about doing Push Presses over Overhead Presses for a few weeks?
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04-30-2011, 04:13 PM #1Registered User
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Substitute Push Press for OHP?
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04-30-2011, 04:13 PM #2Tank.. Tank.. TAAAANK.
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What is your OHP?Originally Posted by CptnAwesome
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you are scared, so am I, but we are scared for different reasons. I am scared of what I willn't become, you are scared of what I could become. Look at me! I will not let myself end where I started, I will not let myself finish where I begin. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes, I have something more important than courage, I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
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04-30-2011, 04:18 PM #3Registered User
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Weak as f*** at around a 90ish. That's why I was thinking Push Presses to get some weight on that.
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04-30-2011, 04:27 PM #4Tank.. Tank.. TAAAANK.
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No. Keep on doing OHP. Don't use Push Press till near 170-180ish OHP.Originally Posted by CptnAwesome
Look me in the eye. It's okay if you are scared, so am I, but we are scared for different reasons. I am scared of what I willn't become, you are scared of what I could become. Look at me! I will not let myself end where I started, I will not let myself finish where I begin. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes, I have something more important than courage, I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
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04-30-2011, 04:29 PM #5Lolno. Push press is superior to OHP IMO.Originally Posted by WannaBeATank
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04-30-2011, 04:30 PM #6Tank.. Tank.. TAAAANK.
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Spidy.. wut.Originally Posted by spiderman997
You have told me that I should do OHP, instead of push press before.Look me in the eye. It's okay if you are scared, so am I, but we are scared for different reasons. I am scared of what I willn't become, you are scared of what I could become. Look at me! I will not let myself end where I started, I will not let myself finish where I begin. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes, I have something more important than courage, I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
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04-30-2011, 04:32 PM #7Registered User
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how so? in the way a cheat curl is better than strict curls?Originally Posted by spiderman997
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04-30-2011, 04:32 PM #8I have no idea why. I was probably high, or just telling you to do the program as written.Originally Posted by WannaBeATank
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04-30-2011, 04:33 PM #9Registered User
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cheat curls are better.Originally Posted by AJPa
on my way to bulking to 250(3 year goal)
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my log = http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=130741293
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04-30-2011, 04:34 PM #10Glenn Pendlay says it better than meOriginally Posted by AJPa
Pendlay: The push press has more carryover to pressing in general – bench press etc. – than any other upper body exercise. Show me a guy who can push press a big weight and he's going to be able to excel at any other pressing movement, even if he's never done it before.
A big bench presser doesn't get that same carryover. I don't want to have 400-pound bench pressers who can't do anything else. The guy who can do heavy push presses doesn't have that problem. He's strong at everything.
And that can't be done with the strict military press either. It's too hard to get it moving. You have such a weak point at the start that it limits the amount of weight you can use.
With a push press, you can put 10 to 20% more weight over your head. You're forced to develop the ability to recruit those muscle fibers very quickly because you're pushing the bar off your shoulders with your legs and then your arms have to come into play, fast, so it doesn't stall. The ability to do that is very, very valuable.
Second, with the push press there's just a huge overload at the top. That last six inches at the top is like doing a partial. That has a powerful effect on the body.
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04-30-2011, 04:35 PM #11GH15 approved
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Spiderman knows facts
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04-30-2011, 04:36 PM #12Tank.. Tank.. TAAAANK.
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Originally Posted by spiderman997
Will you guys check out my log and 5x5?Originally Posted by Ka0s
I pretty much am sure I have in fully done, and prepared; however, there may be weak points in it.Look me in the eye. It's okay if you are scared, so am I, but we are scared for different reasons. I am scared of what I willn't become, you are scared of what I could become. Look at me! I will not let myself end where I started, I will not let myself finish where I begin. I know what is within me, even if you can't see it yet. Look me in the eyes, I have something more important than courage, I have patience. I will become what I know I am.
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04-30-2011, 09:42 PM #13Registered User
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you implied sarcasm where sarcasm was not in placeOriginally Posted by PaynESTER
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