5000 calories per day experiment

[SupremeMachine]

on vacation in europe so far been eating twice per day at buffets in keto style roughly eating around 5000 calories per day (i can eat like a competitive eater and have no limits at buffets lol) been going to the gym day on day off will see what results i get so far its been 5 days.

[Lukelovesyoutoo]

good luck, i'm interested in seeing the outcome. watch out for hidden carbs in the food, of course, you can't be of sure how the food was prepared.

[TonyBear]

wow, that's a lot of calories. I have a super-low metabolism and I can only eat around 1700 calories a day

on vacation in europe so far been eating twice per day at buffets in keto style roughly eating around 5000 calories per day (i can eat like a competitive eater and have no limits at buffets lol) been going to the gym day on day off will see what results i get so far its been 5 days.

[Shredded-Wolf]

:O wow man haha, I can barely hit 3k on keto. I could easily hit 5k though when I was bulking to 230 with a regular diet. Defiantly want to see these results.

[Shredded-Wolf]

You might gain some weight from all the sodium in the buffet though, so drink lots of water!!

[Cumulonimbus]

So you're going to try and defy the law of energy balance with a keto binge?

In for pics lol.

[Cumulonimbus]

wow, that's a lot of calories. I have a super-low metabolism and I can only eat around 1700 calories a day

Unless you are diagnosed with hypothyroidism.. you don't have a slow metabolism. You're just sedentary.

[midcoastking33]

So you're going to try and defy the law of energy balance with a keto binge?

In for pics lol.

Some guy in the misc tried to say that his lifts are solely due to being vegetarian........................................ .....................



I love bb.com, sorry to thread jack everyone

[Cumulonimbus]

Some guy in the misc tried to say that his lifts are solely due to being vegetarian........................................ .....................



I love bb.com, sorry to thread jack everyone

People are just really phucking dumb. I'm having a good laugh at the Lustig and Taubes thread at the moment, it's hilarious.

[Lukelovesyoutoo]

People are just really phucking dumb. I'm having a good laugh at the Lustig and Taubes thread at the moment, it's hilarious.

so you come into the keto section just to tell everyone they're wrong?

[Cumulonimbus]

so you come into the keto section just to tell everyone they're wrong?

No, but there is a lot of misinformation being tossed around in here and there is a line between preference and fact from bullcrap.

[Discov3ry]

Hai guyz, I iz gona eat 55000 caloriez per day of olive oile and I dont think I will gainz wait beecuz I wil be in keetoabolismzz

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Then you would be wrong. According to your retarded calculations you'd be consuming 100% fat, 0% protein, 0% carbs. Keto split is 65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs. So whatever you would be trying to achieve would be just dumb. The average calorie requirement to maintain or lose weigh for a moderately active male age between 20-30 with body mass of between 170-200 lb is about 2300-2600 kcal a day, so consuming 55000 kcal a day according to your trolling would make no sense.

[Discov3ry]

No, but there is a lot of misinformation being tossed around in here and there is a line between preference and fact from bullcrap.

Man, you just won't give up, will you?

[mannydawg]

Then you would be wrong. According to your retarded calculations you'd be consuming 100% fat, 0% protein, 0% carbs. Keto split is 65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs. So whatever you would be trying to achieve would be just dumb. The average calorie requirement to maintain or lose weigh for a moderately active male age between 20-30 with body mass of between 170-200 lb is about 2300-2600 kcal a day, so consuming 55000 kcal a day according to your trolling would make no sense.

honestly you just made no sense with that post. and He was simply alluding to the fact that eating 5000 kcals and whether it is Keto friendly or not it will still result in fat gain.

[Cumulonimbus]

Man, you just won't give up, will you?

You side with Gary fukcing Taubes and you don't know the difference between insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance.

You need to read a book.

[Discov3ry]

You side with Gary fukcing Taubes and you don't know the difference between insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance.

You need to read a book.

First of all, show me ONE evidence of me speaking of Taubes, just one.

Second of all, aware me when was it that I didn't know the difference between insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance.

Third of all, I asked you a simple question, and you pulled out a personal attack card, it speaks for itself.

[Darkdashing]

First of all, show me ONE evidence of me speaking of Taubes, just one.

Second of all, aware me when was it that I didn't know the difference between insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance.

Third of all, I asked you a simple question, and you pulled out a personal attack card, it speaks for itself.

dont be lured in by his trolling. He needs to look up cognitive dissonance. Also, as long as his comments are anonymous, and he can hide behind them, his stupidity and trolls will reign supreme.

[mannydawg]

dont be lured in by his trolling. He needs to look up cognitive dissonance. Also, as long as his comments are anonymous, and he can hide behind them, his stupidity and trolls will reign supreme.

He doesn't criticizes keto per se he criticizes the stupid believes some ketoers hold such as its superiority in terms of health and weight loss.

[Discov3ry]

Hai guyz, I iz gona eat 55000 caloriez per day of olive oile and I dont think I will gainz wait beecuz I wil be in keetoabolismzz

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

honestly you just made no sense with that post. and He was simply alluding to the fact that eating 5000 kcals and whether it is Keto friendly or not it will still result in fat gain.

Man, in the other thread I was trying to be sympathetic to you since you were getting blasted for anti-keto stance but damn you just proved that you're not worth discussing with. Read that troll's post again (if you don't recognize it as troll post then you're hopeless), he said 55,000 (as in thousand) calories in olive oil. The OP wrote it in some moronic way as to emphasize that whoever follow keto is a moron.

This is what you said in said thread:
"I honestly have nothing against keto or ketoers" http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=68

How do you expect to be taken seriously?

So you still think that troll's post made sense and mine didn't?

[2020Wellness]

Third of all, I asked you a simple question, and you pulled out a personal attack card, it speaks for itself.

Something you have to get used to when dealing with Cumonabus....you're not the only frustrated one man. Some people just can't hold an adult discussion, ya know?

[mannydawg]

Man, in the other thread I was trying to be sympathetic to you since you were getting blasted for anti-keto stance but damn you just proved that you're not worth discussing with. Read that troll's post again (if you don't recognize it as troll post then you're hopeless), he said 55,000 (as in thousand) calories in olive oil. The OP wrote it in some moronic way as to emphasize that whoever follow keto is a moron.

This is what you said in said thread:
"I honestly have nothing against keto or ketoers" http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=68

How do you expect to be taken seriously?

So you still think that troll's post made sense and mine didn't?

Yes his example was extreme but it was just to emphasize the stupidity of what OP is doing. He thinks eating 5k calories because its keto friendly will yield good results? I think not.

and you made no sense because you said there was a strict keto ratio which is untrue. One can achieve ketosis by simply omitting carbs from ones diet. Ratios don't really matter. I can eat 70% protein 25%fat and 5 % carbs and still be in ketosis. I can eat 50% protein 45% fat and 5% carbs and still achieve ketosis. Ketosis is not about ratios its about taking in very little carbs.

[Rugger7]

People are just really phucking dumb.

o'rly?

[Discov3ry]

dont be lured in by his trolling. He needs to look up cognitive dissonance. Also, as long as his comments are anonymous, and he can hide behind them, his stupidity and trolls will reign supreme.

I knew he was an arrogant, self centered troll from the first post I read. I'm not lured, I enjoy his egoistic, single sided, dictatorship like stance on dietary approach. It fuels my drive to learn even more about low carb life style. I find it inspiring.

And the fact that he randomly pops into the keto section just to piss off all the good folks who live by it, so what, he's nothing more then some average teenager who thinks he found the dietary holy grail, and anything else is wrong, he seems to operate on the principle of "it's either may way or the highway". Not the first, not the last.

[Discov3ry]

Yes his example was extreme but it was just to emphasize the stupidity of what OP is doing. He thinks eating 5k calories because its keto friendly will yield good results? I think not.

and you made no sense because you said there was a strict keto ratio which is untrue. One can achieve ketosis by simply omitting carbs from ones diet. Ratios don't really matter. I can eat 70% protein 25%fat and 5 % carbs and still be in ketosis. I can eat 50% protein 45% fat and 5% carbs and still achieve ketosis. Ketosis is not about ratios its about taking in very little carbs.

Since when you're such an expert on keto?

Let's see:
"I have thought about trying it in the past but because of the intensity of my training it would not be optimal for me" http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=68

You never tried it, you never lived it, how can you speak of it?

[Discov3ry]

He's right and you're wrong and you know it. His understanding of nutritional science > yours and you can't stand it so you attack his AGE. Pathetic.

No, I don't know it. Please, enlighten me.

[mannydawg]

Since when you're such an expert on keto?

Let's see:
"I have thought about trying it in the past but because of the intensity of my training it would not be optimal for me" http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=68

You never tried it, you never lived it, how can you speak of it?

Ok so your going to tell me lyle mcdonalds RFL diet does not achieve ketosis? Your going to tell me if i don't hit the magic 65/30/5 ratio I can't achieve ketosis.

I'm sorry but I do not have to have tried Keto to know the science behind it. Once you exclude CHO from your diet and you do not have enough glucose available you body goes through a metabolic shift and starts to produce ketones to supply your brain. This can be achieved through excluding CHO only. The fat and protein ratios don't matter. You can also acieve Ketosis if you fast for a few days.

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the science behind things before posting.

[Discov3ry]

Ok so your going to tell me lyle mcdonalds RFL diet does not achieve ketosis? Your going to tell me if i don't hit the magic 65/30/5 ratio I can't achieve ketosis.

I'm sorry but I do not have to have tried Keto to know the science behind it. Once you exclude CHO from your diet and you do not have enough glucose available you body goes through a metabolic shift and starts to produce ketones to supply your brain. This can be achieved through excluding CHO only. The fat and protein ratios don't matter. You can also acieve Ketosis if you fast for a few days.

You need to educate yourself a bit more on the science behind things before posting.

Brain relies on glucose for energy, even in keto state, you fail.

[mannydawg]

Actually no, it doesn't. The brain can adapt to using ketones as a primary substrate.

You fail.

this... In the initial stages of ketosis your brain relies less on ketones for energy roughly 40% but after prolonged ketosis the % keeps increasing.

[Discov3ry]

oh laaaaawd

You really think we have to actually DO keto to understand it?

You're a joke man, seriously.

Yes, you have to experience it on your own body before you decide to bash the knowledge of people who already have done it. Everyone reacts differently to keto, some hate it, some love it, some crash, others thrive on it. Your thinking reminds me of paper racers, comparing cars stats on the paper, saying which one's faster, until they get to the drag strip, and then number don't matter because in real life every single variable matters, and they all vary from person to person.

[mannydawg]

Yes, you have to experience it on your own body before you decide to bash the knowledge of people who already have done it. Everyone reacts differently to keto, some hate it, some love it, some crash, others thrive on it. Your thinking reminds me of paper racers, comparing cars stats on the paper, saying which one's faster, until they get to the drag strip, and then number don't matter because in real life every single variable matters, and they all vary from person to person.

Nope I do not have to try something to know the science behind it. And this knowledge you speak of, where is it? I haven't seen you post anything that shows that you have any knowledge of the science behind ketosis. Heck you believe you have to eat 65/30/5 to achieve ketosis which is hogwash.