How do I (clean)bulk when working 12-15hr days?

[thebeagle]

Work got lined up and now intense long days 6-7 days a week, always burning my muscles hard daily and have now lost basically all my bulking gains 8~ pounds (meso) in last 3 weeks, Ive been eating 3500-4k and that's even stuffing it before/after work.. Not sure what to do or how I can can calculate my daily maintenance and eat a +3-500 calorie surplus, is this even possible? I'm going to make 800 calorie shakes to help get my number up there. is my maintenance now 5k+~ normally it's 3k before these crazy days, also still lifting 5x/week any help would be awesome or people that are in similar situations or been there before

[PBateman2]

Best thing to do is to prep your meals ahead of time. Takes the guesswork out.

Aim for calorie dense foods as much as possible - steak, pasta, whole milk, whole eggs, peanut butter, ice cream, bacon, sandwiches, nuts, granola, etc..

Homemade shakes FTW. Do what you have to do.

[iphone4s]

bate whats your take on iFFYm? srs

[Yodums]

bate whats your take on iFFYm? srs

The guy eats massive amounts of ice cream and drinks tons of chocolate milk. What do you think?

[PBateman2]

^^Yeah buddaaaay!!!! Massive amounts of apple pie comin on Thursday..lol

bate whats your take on iFFYm? srs

I get lots of lulz on all threads on it and people's lack of common sense. It's actually pretty amazing. I didnt realize how dumb some people (noobs aside) can be.

I could teach my 10 year old nephew IFFYM and he would get it. lol

This has been going on for years (common sense/moderation approach to diet)...it's just that when a tag (acronym - IFFYM) was applied, people just began to shyt in their pants. Have no clue on such an elementary/basic concept and some still dont get it.

Common sense approach to diet, understanding cal/macro targets, bustin ass in the gym - consistent progression, etc.....will yield positive results over time.

Im having my ice cream and chocy milk. Betta believe it

[thebeagle]

Best thing to do is to prep your meals ahead of time. Takes the guesswork out.

Aim for calorie dense foods as much as possible - steak, pasta, whole milk, whole eggs, peanut butter, ice cream, bacon, sandwiches, nuts, granola, etc..

Homemade shakes FTW. Do what you have to do.

Oo ya I have no problem making the food or eating the high cal but how can I pinpoint what my body is burning each day? One day I could be sanding so intense shoulders 100% effort all day next may be coating so little less then day before :/

[PBateman2]

Oo ya I have no problem making the food or eating the high cal but how can I pinpoint what my body is burning each day? One day I could be sanding so intense shoulders 100% effort all day next may be coating so little less then day before :/

Mental gymnastics.

Eh...if you want to pinpoint down to that level...get a bodybugg or something similar where you can track calorie expenditure on a daily basis.

If bulking, just keep a consitent calorie surplus regardless of activity - IMO. Maximize gain potential. Consistent calorie surplus FTW.

Estimate/figure overall maintenance (sticky), add 10-20% above that, and try to hit that number on a daily basis. Make adjustments as necessary based on progress.

Easy.

[ven33]

Mental gymnastics.

x2. Bate is trying to say that worrying about such things is literally a waste of time and effort.

Hit your macros, be in a caloric excess, and gains will come so long as your lifting routine isn't a strong case of fukarounditus