Natural Whey Protein Powders...

[heyzeus909]

I know of only two "natural" protein powders:

Optimum Nutrition's 100% Natural Whey Gold Standard

Iron-Tek's Essential Natural 100% Protein.


Is anyone aware of any other "natural" protein powders? I'm looking to avoid artificail sweeteners, artificial colors, artificial flavors, and preservatives (call me crazy).

I don't care about taste, how mixable it is, or affordability. I just want more than two options when it comes to natural protein powders...


Thanks!


EDIT: I titled this thread "Natural Whey Protein Powders"...I'm open to natural casein and egg protein powders too (uh...but not soy).

[Millennium 1]

Bioplex makes one great one!

[punksurfer024]

heyzeus, any reason why your user title says moderator?

oh and go into the store section of BB.com and search for natural whey and youll get a decent amount of products.

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by punk sf'er

heyzeus, any reason why your user title says moderator?

oh and go into the store section of BB.com and search for natural whey and youll get a decent amount of products.

Thanks punk sf'er. I never would have guessed to have searched on the store for "natural whey"...I must be an idiot or something. But uh...I don't really want to wade through the 676 returns your advised search gave me. THAT'S WHY I ASKED HERE.

Originally Posted by Millennium 1

Bioplex makes one great one!

Thanks Millennium 1! That's the kind of advice I was looking for I'll put an order in for that one on my next bb.com order. Thanks again!

[punksurfer024]

Originally Posted by heyzeus909

Thanks punk sf'er. I never would have guessed to have searched on the store for "natural whey"...I must be an idiot or something. But uh...I don't really want to wade through the 676 returns your advised search gave me. THAT'S WHY I ASKED HERE.




Thanks Millennium 1! That's the kind of advice I was looking for I'll put an order in for that one on my next bb.com order. Thanks again!

here i helped, http://search.bodybuilding.com/searc...ption&filter=0
youll notice the 676 products or whatever you said, if you look at just the first page, there are plenty.

[bignpisst]

Try Nectar Naturals http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/syn/nat.html

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by punksurfer024

here i helped, http://search.bodybuilding.com/searc...ption&filter=0
youll notice the 676 products or whatever you said, if you look at just the first page, there are plenty.

That first page that has plenty of results has the following:

2 nutrition bars, a protein powder that I already mentioned as having, 1 protein powder that was already mentioned in this thread by Millenium 1, a protein powder that contains soy (and I said I don't want soy), another proteing powder that contained artificial ingredients and soy, 2 weight gainers, and something called ear oil (wtf?).

There was one positive return on the first page of the search you provided the link to:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/natural.html

Maybe you define "plenty" as to mean "one". I don't.

If you are trying to help, then I appreciate it. However, I suspect that you're trying to give me the "do a search before asking" treatment instead. I not only searched before I asked, I've used YOUR search too. If your search returned only 1 positive on the first page, I can only imagine what kind of results I would have found trying to go through the other 6 pages of results.

Originally Posted by bignpisst

Try Nectar Naturals http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/syn/nat.html

Very cool, bignpisst! An all natural protein powder that dares to stray away from the "Ice Cream" flavors. Peach flavor, and Tea flavor? I'll have to give that a try. Thank you.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/syn/nat.html


Also, this AllMax Nutrition IsoNatural looks pretty promising too! It's simply pure whey protein isolate. Nothing else! 114 calories and 27g of protein is going to be hard to beat.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/natural.html


Here's the link to Iron-Tek's Essential Natural 100% Protein with Micellar Casein, that I mentioned earlier.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/iron/protein.html

It's a decent alternative to the "whey only" natural protein powders, and a bit cheaper.


I try to eat mostly natural whole foods. I'll even splurge once in a while and eat organic. I won't even eat commercially made protein bars (I make my own). I figure it doesn't make much sense to go through the effort of eating clean and natural if I'm just going to take in a protein supplement 2 or 3 times a day that has artificial ingredients. If there's other people out there that feel the same way (and I know we'd be in the extreme minority here), then please post your knowledge of other protein powders.

Thanks!


Oh yeah...I forgot to mention the Jay Robb products in my first post. There's the all natural whey protein here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/whey.html

And the Jay Robb Egg White Protein here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/jay/egg.html

[cawchy]

Just be careful of which one you choose. Just because it says "natural" on it doesn't mean it is nessesarly good for you. Check out this study on Stevia ( the sweetener in ON's "natural" whey): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Basicly they don't know the adverse effects of it in humans. Just like in artifical sweeteners. The only safe sweetener is no sweetener. I drink plain whey from *********** only.

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by cawchy

Just be careful of which one you choose. Just because it says "natural" on it doesn't mean it is nessesarly good for you. Check out this study on Stevia ( the sweetener in ON's "natural" whey): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

Basicly they don't know the adverse effects of it in humans. Just like in artifical sweeteners. The only safe sweetener is no sweetener. I drink plain whey from *********** only.

I'm not necessarily a stevia advocate, but if I'm in a "pick your poison" kind of scenario with stevia vs artificial sweeteners...I'm going to choose the stevia. Stevia is derived from a natural source and has been in use in Asia for a few decades now and I'm not aware of any study showing adverse effects from it (not saying such info doesn't exist...just saying I haven't seen it).

I'm not so good with math, and I'm certainly not scientist, but from looking at that report you linked to, it looks like the equivelant dose of stevia they gave those mice would be 62 grams for me (62 grams? Imagine taking 2 protein powder scoops of stevia!). That would easily be several, several hundred times the amount of stevia anyone would ever take at one time. So yeah, I'd iimagine taking several hundred times the dose of just about anything would have an adverse effect on you. I mean, you can't even take that much of some vitamins without there being some toxicity.

But you do raise a good point. It might be best to just take pure whey with no other "natural" ingredients. That's something I'm going to certainly consider.

Besides, I get a little skittish when I see "natural flavors" listed on the ingredients list ever since I read the following:



According to the FDA, these must be derived entirely from natural sources -- from herbs, spices, fruits, vegetables, beef, chicken, yeast, bark, roots, and so forth. Consumers prefer to see natural flavors on a label, out of a belief that they are more healthful. Distinctions between artificial and natural flavors can be arbitrary and somewhat absurd, based more on how the flavor has been made than on what it actually contains.

"A natural flavor," says Terry Acree, a professor of food science at Cornell University, "is a flavor that's been derived with an out-of-date technology." Natural flavors and artificial flavors sometimes contain exactly the same chemicals, produced through different methods. Amyl acetate, for example, provides the dominant note of banana flavor. When it is distilled from bananas with a solvent, amyl acetate is a natural flavor. When it is produced by mixing vinegar with amyl alcohol and adding sulfuric acid as a catalyst, amyl acetate is an artificial flavor. Either way it smells and tastes the same. "Natural flavor" is now listed among the ingredients of everything from Health Valley Blueberry Granola Bars to Taco Bell Hot Taco Sauce.

A natural flavor is not necessarily more healthful or purer than an artificial one. When almond flavor -- benzaldehyde -- is derived from natural sources, such as peach and apricot pits, it contains traces of hydrogen cyanide, a deadly poison. Benzaldehyde derived by mixing oil of clove and amyl acetate does not contain any cyanide. Nevertheless, it is legally considered an artificial flavor and sells at a much lower price. Natural and artificial flavors are now manufactured at the same chemical plants, places that few people would associate with Mother Nature.
http://www.rense.com/general7/whyy.htm

[joeygoingbald]

I have used ON's whey before, and it is not bad at all. I didn't know that Nectar had a natural one I will be sure to try that one in the furture.

[cawchy]

Yes, the stevia experiment used an astronomical amount of stevia. But every artificial sweetener experiment has done the same thing. You've clearly done your research on natural flavorings as you brought up some points I haven't even heard about. Good luck finding your natural whey, and don't be fooled by crystalline fructose!

Personally, if I were to choose a sweetener I would choose one that your body did not absorb/break down at all.

[johnnypoppy]

I drink the Nectar Naturals protein. I stick with the natural peach mostly it taste pretty good, but I get the iced tea occasionaly for a change in flavor.

[punksurfer024]

Originally Posted by heyzeus909

That first page that has plenty of results has the following:

2 nutrition bars, a protein powder that I already mentioned as having, 1 protein powder that was already mentioned in this thread by Millenium 1, a protein powder that contains soy (and I said I don't want soy), another proteing powder that contained artificial ingredients and soy, 2 weight gainers, and something called ear oil (wtf?).

There was one positive return on the first page of the search you provided the link to:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/natural.html

Maybe you define "plenty" as to mean "one". I don't.

If you are trying to help, then I appreciate it. However, I suspect that you're trying to give me the "do a search before asking" treatment instead. I not only searched before I asked, I've used YOUR search too. If your search returned only 1 positive on the first page, I can only imagine what kind of results I would have found trying to go through the other 6 pages of results.

listen i dont really care about you or your problem, fact of matter is you asked a question i tried to give you a place to search and then you gave me attitude about me giving you a place to search, there where 3 choices on the link which to me is PLENTY. best suggestion to you is to not bring attitude to ppl trying to help you. have fun with your stuffed bunny, take care.


edit: just saw you deleted your pink bunny and knife photos, or rather just cropped that part out.

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by punksurfer024

edit: just saw you deleted your pink bunny and knife photos, or rather just cropped that part out.

No, an overzealous moderator cropped out the knife for me. Thing is, is that I'm more cut than that knife...surpised he didn't just crop me out of the pic and leave the knife.

Anyway, if you really were trying to help, then thanks. I thought you were just being a smartass. My bad.

Originally Posted by cawchy

...don't be fooled by crystalline fructose!

I don't think I've ever heard of crystalline fructose before. I did a quick search on it (wouldn't want anyone to be busting my nuts for not searching, now would I?). It kinda sounds like high fructose corn syrup, but by another name? Maybe you can shed some light on it...

Thanks!

[ALLMAX USA]

Originally Posted by heyzeus909

Also, this AllMax Nutrition IsoNatural looks pretty promising too! It's simply pure whey protein isolate. Nothing else! 114 calories and 27g of protein is going to be hard to beat.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/all/natural.html

Great info Heyzeus909, here is a link to thread on the Allmax IsoNatural.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ght=isonatural

Post's #1 and #16 have excellent info.

Best of luck with your choice!

[cawchy]

I don't think I've ever heard of crystalline fructose before. I did a quick search on it (wouldn't want anyone to be busting my nuts for not searching, now would I?). It kinda sounds like high fructose corn syrup, but by another name? Maybe you can shed some light on it...

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Bingo, I bought an "all natural" whey protein a while back from a local shop and asked him what the sweetener was in it. He told me that the sweetener was the "natural flavors" listed in the ingredients. When I got home I noticed the fructose. I asked my sister (a bio-chem major) what it was and she said it was basicly high fructose corn syrup and the same for me as pure sugar.

Crystalline Fructose is crystalized high fructose corn syrup. Here is some info on high fructose corn syrup:

Health effects
One study concluded that fructose "produced significantly higher fasting plasma triacylglycerol values than did the glucose diet in men" and "if plasma triacylglycerols are a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, then diets high in fructose may be undesirable".[11] Bantle et al. "noted the same effects in a study of 14 healthy volunteers who sequentially ate a high-fructose diet and one almost devoid of the sugar."[12]

A study in mice suggests that fructose increases obesity.[13] However, this study looked at the effects of fructose alone, and since high fructose corn syrup, like ordinary table sugar, is only about half fructose and half glucose, some may say they tell us very little about the relative health effects of high fructose corn syrup as opposed to other sweeteners. These same people must argue that the added sucrose somehow cancels out the reported negative effects of fructose intake. No such study has shown this cancellation happens.

Studies that have compared HFCS to sucrose (as opposed to pure fructose) find that they have essentially identical physiological effects. For instance, Melanson et al (2006) studied the effects of HFCS and sucrose sweetened drinks on blood glucose, insulin, leptin, and ghrelin levels. They found no significant differences in any of these parameters.

Perrigue et al (2006) compared the effects of isocaloric servings of colas sweetened HFCS 45, HFCS 55, sucrose, and aspartame on satiety and subsequent energy intake. They found that all of the drinks with caloric sweeteners produced similar satiety responses, and had the same effects on subsequent energy intake. Taken together with Melanson et al (2006), this study shows that there is little or no evidence for the hypothesis that HFCS is different from sucrose in its effects on appetite or on metabolic processes involved in fat storage.

One much-publicized recent study found an association between obesity and high HFCS consumption, especially from soft drinks.[14] However, this study did not provide any evidence that this association is causal. And in fact, one of the study coauthors, Dr. Barry M. Popkin, is quoted in the New York Times (July 2, 2006, A Sweetener With a Bad Rap) warning that “I don't think there should be a perception that high-fructose corn syrup has caused obesity until we know more.” Most experts would agree that, in terms of obesity-related physiology, HFCS is no better or worse than sucrose. In the same article, Walter Willets, chair of the nutrition department of the Harvard School of Public Health Nutrition Department Chairman, is quoted as saying that “There's no substantial evidence to support the idea that high-fructose corn syrup is somehow responsible for obesity,” and that “If there was no high-fructose corn syrup, I don't think we would see a change in anything important.” In essence he is saying high fructose corn syrup is just as bad as other sugars. Walter Willets also recommends drinking water over soft drinks containing sugars or high fructose corn syrup.[15]


Labeling as "natural"
In May 2006, the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) threatened to file a lawsuit against Cadbury Schweppes for labeling 7 Up as "All Natural", despite containing high fructose corn syrup. While the FDA has no definition of "Natural", CSPI claims that HFCS is not a “natural” ingredient due to the high level of processing and the use of at least one genetically modifed (GMO) enzyme required to produce it.[16] In January 2007, Cadbury Schweppes agreed to stop calling 7 Up "All Natural".[17]

[SI03 Board Rep]

Originally Posted by joeygoingbald

I have used ON's whey before, and it is not bad at all. I didn't know that Nectar had a natural one I will be sure to try that one in the furture.

We have had them out for awhile I recommend you try the peach first and then give the tea a try if you want. I personally love the peach I go back and forth between it and Fuzzy Navel.

[jdlaw243]

Saw your post, we have a company called Manno's Pro-Fitness, our line is 100% all natural sports nutrition, check the supplement facts. I know you said taste doesn't matter but ours tastes great and mixes instantly. BB.com carries the product at a great price. You can also check mannosprofitness.com if you want to look into it more. Feel free to contact myself as well if you have any questions, jlawrence@azns.us.

[FitzChivalry]

I don't know if your still monitoring this thread, but I believe that NOW has some.

[SI03 Board Rep]

Also if you are still looking for all natural protien powder our Nectar Natruals has a new flavor out, Natural Orange.

[riped4life]

Originally Posted by SI03 Board Rep

Also if you are still looking for all natural protien powder our Nectar Natruals has a new flavor out, Natural Orange.

When will it be available I love the natural peach

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by SI03 Board Rep

Also if you are still looking for all natural protien powder our Nectar Natruals has a new flavor out, Natural Orange.

Hey...I'm almost out of protein powder too...

*hint* *hint*, *wink*, *nod*, *death stare*, *send me some*

[Juansol]

Originally Posted by jdlaw243

Saw your post, we have a company called Manno's Pro-Fitness, our line is 100% all natural sports nutrition, check the supplement facts. I know you said taste doesn't matter but ours tastes great and mixes instantly. BB.com carries the product at a great price. You can also check mannosprofitness.com if you want to look into it more. Feel free to contact myself as well if you have any questions, jlawrence@azns.us.

I completely agree. I've been using it for a few months now and its become my favorite protein powder so far. Interested in trying some of their other products.

[Roninho]

try this one : http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-e...oduct_id/44632

but just keep in mind
what Vince Gironda once said:

" I will put my reputation on the line to prove that steroids are not any better or as good as four dozen fertile eggs, 100 liver tabs, and 100 amino acid tablets per day."

[nikokai]

buy NOW whey protein

[MoonMan12]

Originally Posted by Roninho

try this one : http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-e...oduct_id/44632

but just keep in mind
what Vince Gironda once said:

" I will put my reputation on the line to prove that steroids are not any better or as good as four dozen fertile eggs, 100 liver tabs, and 100 amino acid tablets per day."

Remove the link bud, don't want to get in trouble.

[1-Testosterone]

Originally Posted by heyzeus909

I know of only two "natural" protein powders:

Optimum Nutrition's 100% Natural Whey Gold Standard

Iron-Tek's Essential Natural 100% Protein.


Is anyone aware of any other "natural" protein powders? I'm looking to avoid artificail sweeteners, artificial colors, artificial flavors, and preservatives (call me crazy).

I don't care about taste, how mixable it is, or affordability. I just want more than two options when it comes to natural protein powders...


Thanks!


EDIT: I titled this thread "Natural Whey Protein Powders"...I'm open to natural casein and egg protein powders too (uh...but not soy).

NOW Whey Protein Isolate
American Sports Nutrition - American Whey

Latter one is pretty good tasting.

[Roninho]

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[jameskane]

Healthy'n'Fit makes alot of good products with good ingrediants. in fact they use Stevia for a sweetner.

[JWPICK]

I discovered a few Whey Protein powders on www.nutrabio.com that list as "no additives, fillers, or artificial ingredients". I hope this helps.