opinion on pec deck

[CRyan64]

i was just searching some threads about the pec deck and it seems like people have a negative opinion about it. yet i can feel my pecs being worked the most with this thing. what do?

[Kylehero]

Talk is cheap muthafuka!

Do it

[ThePinsir]

would rather bench any day.

[89tiger89]

I wouldn't use it as a main mass builder, but it can supplement a good routine. I sometimes use it as a finisher so I can do drop sets without having to switch out plates.

[Birddog6424]

For what I use it for, I love it.

It's my fifth exercise finisher. Gotta work that inner chest

[D4rkhorse]

I would prefer it to cable crossovers, but my gym does not have the deck of pecs.

[ThickAsABrick]

it seems like people have a negative opinion about it. ?

most people on this site are idiots

[darinaldi]

i was just searching some threads about the pec deck and it seems like people have a negative opinion about it. yet i can feel my pecs being worked the most with this thing. what do?

Who gives a flying fuck what a bunch of anonymous people on an Internet forum think?

Does it work for you? Are you getting results from it? If so, keep doing it.

[_OZ_]

i was just searching some threads about the pec deck and it seems like people have a negative opinion about it. yet i can feel my pecs being worked the most with this thing. what do?

Do it, it's a great isolation exercise.

[mmafighter1294]

i was just searching some threads about the pec deck and it seems like people have a negative opinion about it. yet i can feel my pecs being worked the most with this thing. what do?

SOMETIMES pec deck causes shoulder problems, SOMETIMES it doesnt. some people on this site dont seem to realize their body isnt everyone elses body and make sweeping generalizations about exercises and their dangers. I personally get shoulder pain from pec deck/machine flys, but i know many that dont.

[XXX666]

Who gives a flying fuck what a bunch of anonymous people on an Internet forum think?

Does it work for you? Are you getting results from it? If so, keep doing it.

^^^^^this

[CRyan64]

Who gives a flying fuck what a bunch of anonymous people on an Internet forum think?

Does it work for you? Are you getting results from it? If so, keep doing it.

i don't care what they think, i was just wondering why they dont like it

[DJAuto]

I've always enjoyed the machine. I don't use it as often as before because it aggravates my shoulders occasionally; however, I find it an effective piece of equipment.

[ThickAsABrick]

i don't care what they think, i was just wondering why they dont like it

probably because a lot of people here are insecure and act like only benching, squatting and deadlifting are appropriate exercises. nothing else is "hardcoar" enough.

in the real world, most people use a mix of compound and isos to achieve their goals.

continue to trust what feels right for you and ignore anything else.

[chrisboudreaux]

I don't really like it. I don't get much out of that stuff, but if it works for you then do it. Cedric McMillan "Secret weapon" is to go real heavy on pec dec. Or at least it was in one of his MD videos.

[SwiftyX]

Pec dec is good. But the majority of them place your arm in its weakest position (abducted, externally rotated), which is the position of dislocation. I would either use the kinds that allow you to mimic the positioning of a dumbbell/cable fly (or just use the cables instead (you could also "hold" the pads of the machine with your hand rather than resting the forearm on them, too, actually...that's what I do.).

[Anthony21]

I get a good pump when using it for my chest but feel it to much in my shoulders at the same time hence the reason why I don't use it as much.

[Fabs23]

Who cares what others say? if you think it works use it.

For me I like it to warmup with and then finish with on chest days.

Not a mass building exercise

"Hug the fat girl"

[Tyciol]

I wish I could find that clip from Sky Girls where Mio Sakamoto is using a pec deck. It's great.

the majority of them place your arm in its weakest position (abducted, externally rotated)

This confuses me, aren't strong/weak positions subjective? Like for what purpose?

which is the position of dislocation

I don't understand glenohumeral anatomy too well, how does lateral rotation and abduction dislocate? I thought if our rotor cuff was strong the head would stay depressed in the fossa?

I would either use the kinds that allow you to mimic the positioning of a dumbbell/cable fly (or just use the cables instead (you could also "hold" the pads of the machine with your hand rather than resting the forearm on them, too, actually...that's what I do.).

Dumbbell and cable don't have fixed form though, you can externally rotate with them just like in a pec deck.

I think what we're ignoring here is apparently the lateral rotation of the shoulder takes the anterior deltoid out of play and the pec might be in a better adductor position?

[JOHN GARGANI]

Pec dec is good. But the majority of them place your arm in its weakest position (abducted, externally rotated), which is the position of dislocation. I would either use the kinds that allow you to mimic the positioning of a dumbbell/cable fly (or just use the cables instead

best post of this thread: why?

because it recognizes an important fact with ALL machines: they are NOT created equally!

and doing exercises on them if they are NOT harmonious with your individual body construction, will result in injuries...


THAT is why you hear negative stories on pec decks.

(you could also "hold" the pads of the machine with your hand rather than resting the forearm on them, too, actually...that's what I do.).

as to this gem: go one step further: not only hold the pads with your hands, but DON'T EVEN SIT DOWN! rather: FACE the machine, while standing....that really burns the pecs!

[gomez26]

yes, defly rotating upper arm inwards makes it safer for many ppl who would otherwise have problems. the versions with the handle bars as opposed to pads would suit these ppl best.

[mikebio1]

I prefer the cables, but that's just me personally.

[rando_commando]

I recently started using it as my first excersise on chest day. During bench - incline my tris - shoulders would give out first , and i was always left with the impression that i didn't work my chest as much as i should-could. Using pec deck as a first excersise i can prefatigue my chest and even though i will lift lighter weights after it , i feel it working in each and every rep after.
Not my idea about pre exhausting chest ofcourse , i just read it somewhere and saw it working for me .


edit: yes , i know i probably did not target my chest due to bad form , i'm working on it.

[Tommy W.]

i don't care what they think, i was just wondering why they dont like it

Because it's fasionable to criticize machines of any type. These are generally the people who have the least amount of knowledge.

[CRyan64]

Because it's fasionable to criticize machines of any type. These are generally the people who have the least amount of knowledge.

ha...yeah...i used to do pretty much only free weights but im finding a lot of machines to be helpful

[noobboon]

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[USMARINE8152]

I like using pec deck as my widowmaker set. Also doing it the right way....I always see folks using to much weight using to much of there biceps and shoulders to pull the handles togther. I think pec deck is fine so long as its not your main focus.

[supmannn]

probably because a lot of people here are insecure and act like only benching, squatting and deadlifting are appropriate exercises. nothing else is "hardcoar" enough.

in the real world, most people use a mix of compound and isos to achieve their goals.

continue to trust what feels right for you and ignore anything else.

Lots of people here do strength training or powerlifting routines though. In that case, isolation exercises are very rare/nonexistent. Yes, I know it's bodybuilding.com, but lots of advice gets mixed up between bodybuilding/strength training/powerlifting.

[Tyciol]

Hey guys, if the pec deck is bother you, wouldn't arching your back help? =)

[Fat2FitBrah]

I've heard bad things about the pekdek because it's not good for your shoulders, then again i guess regular bench isnt good for your shoulders in some circles.
Theres better chest exercises imo but to each his own!