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    low calorie diet and gain muscle?

    is it possible to build muscle doing high weight low rep exercises, if you only consume 1200-1300 calories a day? If it is not possible to build muscle and burn fat simultaneously do you at least retain or tone your muscle with this sort of diet?

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    Originally Posted by teke213 View Post
    is it possible to build muscle doing high weight low rep exercises, if you only consume 1200-1300 calories a day? If it is not possible to build muscle and burn fat simultaneously do you at least retain or tone your muscle with this sort of diet?
    No it's not unless you are a noob or returning to training (even then on those calories extremely unlikely).

    Would you retain muscle? I doubt it as that is VERY low calories for someone your size, so you would be losing fat/muscle
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    thats a dangerously low calorie intake for a male
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    thanks for the suggestions fellas, i am definitely a noob trying to experiment with workouts and what not... i used to eat and take 3 shakes a day and got up to 206 lbs but i wasnt very defined.. i've since tried doin more cardio and lifting high weight/low rep early in the week with high rep/lower weight in the end of the week.. i'll get back on the saddle and try to intake more food..

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    1200-1300 calories?

    Troll?
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    no not a troll..a beginner.. i was up to 206lbs when i was eatin and takin 3 shakes a day..and wanted to tone out i guess.. i figured the quickest most drastic thing would be to lift 5x a day...do more cardio..and eat as little g fat as possible.. eat breakfast/lunch/dinner and shake..thats it.. if you have helpful suggestions i'd appreciate it. not trolling though just willing to learn.

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    Originally Posted by teke213 View Post
    thanks for the suggestions fellas, i am definitely a noob trying to experiment with workouts and what not... i used to eat and take 3 shakes a day and got up to 206 lbs but i wasnt very defined.. i've since tried doin more cardio and lifting high weight/low rep early in the week with high rep/lower weight in the end of the week.. i'll get back on the saddle and try to intake more food..
    Maybe you should have ditched the shakes (taking a guess they were "weight gainers")??
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    Originally Posted by teke213 View Post
    and eat as little g fat as possible...
    You need FATS
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    Originally Posted by teke213 View Post
    i figured the quickest most drastic thing would be to lift 5x a day...do more cardio..and eat as little g fat as possible..
    5x a day...

    Cardio, on a huge deficit

    eat as little fat as possible...

    3 drastic measures to lose muscle mass... I say troll

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    1000-1200 cals is what im consuming. To kick start my cut 200g protein. Lyle mcdonald's RFL only doing it for 2-3 weeks and by the book. Yea OP dont go so low unless you know what your doing.
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    thanks for the suggestions.. i really do appreciate it.. i am not trolling i have been trying this out.. i have gone from 206 to 189 now..
    @alwaystryin: your right i was doin the gnc wheyabolic stuff but now just do some simple whey..
    i will probably ditch this idea, the consensus seems to be that i'm going to be losing muscle mass.. i will try to understand the macro ratios and get a better understanding of what i need to do... i truly am thankful for the responses.

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    Originally Posted by teke213 View Post
    i will probably ditch this idea, the consensus seems to be that i'm going to be losing muscle mass.. i will try to understand the macro ratios and get a better understanding of what i need to do... i truly am thankful for the responses.
    You need to consume more calories
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    I suppose if you're mentally and physiologically capable and have good nutrition then you can handle a deficit for awhile and maybe recomp a bit until you get lean. But once you get closer to your goal or fatloss plateaus again you'll need to fit higher calorie days in, especially carbs, fats being secondary. Protein isn't as important imo but wouldn't hurt to get a few extra grams of that in a high calorie day. With such low calories, muscle building potential is mainly in the carbs you eat, protein being secondary. All just my opinion.

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    Originally Posted by JayLutz91 View Post
    I suppose if you're mentally and physiologically capable and have good nutrition then you can handle a deficit for awhile and maybe recomp a bit until you get lean. But once you get closer to your goal or fatloss plateaus again you'll need to fit higher calorie days in, especially carbs, fats being secondary. Protein isn't as important imo but wouldn't hurt to get a few extra grams of that in a high calorie day. With such low calories, muscle building potential is mainly in the carbs you eat, protein being secondary. All just my opinion.
    Please stop bumping old threads. The OP asked this question in 2011.

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