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    Why is my maintenance so slow?

    18 years old
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    Been working out for a few years. Eat healthy and always have. Trying to lose weight.

    Eating around 1700, 1 g of protein per pound, working out every other day.

    Not losing weight,

    what gives?

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    The most likely thing is that you're eating more than you think. If you're really eating 1700 calories you should be at a reasonable deficit. Measure all of your portions instead of just guessing, and I bet you'll start to see results.
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    Originally Posted by screwnuts View Post
    The most likely thing is that you're eating more than you think. If you're really eating 1700 calories you should be at a reasonable deficit. Measure all of your portions instead of just guessing, and I bet you'll start to see results.
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    at 1700 calories you ought to be well below maintenance. How long have you been trying to lose weight? If its only been a week or two I'd probably just keep at it for another week. If it's been longer, maybe try reducing to 1600 calories.

    Also, are you weighing yourself at the same time and same conditions every time? I always weigh in first thing in the morning after I go to the bathroom, wearing just my boxers.
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    same here man. i started at around 2000 cals and worked my way down to almost nothing (~1200) and have lost maybe 3 pounds according to the scale. I have been doing this for almost 3 months now and about to jump back on a bulk cuz this is killing me. i also do cardio a few times a week and lift real heavy. strength has remained the same so im not mad there but no weight seems to be coming off. I definately look a lil better in the mirror but am by no means LEAN which is where i pictured myself being after a 12-14 week period.
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    Originally Posted by t0mmyb0y View Post
    same here man. i started at around 2000 cals and worked my way down to almost nothing (~1200) and have lost maybe 3 pounds according to the scale. I have been doing this for almost 3 months now and about to jump back on a bulk cuz this is killing me. i also do cardio a few times a week and lift real heavy. strength has remained the same so im not mad there but no weight seems to be coming off. I definately look a lil better in the mirror but am by no means LEAN which is where i pictured myself being after a 12-14 week period.
    if you are doing heavy weight training too while on a deficit then for sure you are gaining lean mass thats why your weight stays the same. like what you just said, you look better in the mirror.

    have you checked you BFR? its probably going down while adding muscle mass.
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    You guys could try using measurements instead of scale weight to track your progress. Go by a tape and measure your waist, chest, thighs, arms, etc. If you're getting smaller and your lifts are increasing or staying the same, you're most likely losing fat.
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    Originally Posted by jinda628 View Post
    if you are doing heavy weight training too while on a deficit then for sure you are gaining lean mass thats why your weight stays the same. like what you just said, you look better in the mirror.

    have you checked you BFR? its probably going down while adding muscle mass.
    Thats always what I kinda figured/hoped has been happening but i've read so much on here about how "you cant gain mass on a deficit and cant lose weight on a surplus" crap that its been drilled in my head. I find it hard to believe that im at a surplus eating around 1200 cals a day. I HAVE gotten comments since the beginning of my cut that i look "bigger". I just thought maybe it was an illusion from losing fat but then again, the scale doesnt move. I have not ever taken bf measurements but before my cut I could not see any abs and now i can see the top 4 when flexing and on an empty stomach. I hope what you say is right but how can i really STRIP the fat off if i really want to cut as opposed to my, what appears to be, recomp.
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    also to add.... that transition from no abs, to top 4 happend durring like the first 2 weeks for the most part. i figured most was water. Since then there has been little change to my body from what i can notice.
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    Originally Posted by t0mmyb0y View Post
    have lost maybe 3 pounds according to the scale. I have been doing this for almost 3 months now
    only lost 3lbs in 14weeks?
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    Originally Posted by t0mmyb0y View Post
    Thats always what I kinda figured/hoped has been happening but i've read so much on here about how "you cant gain mass on a deficit and cant lose weight on a surplus" crap that its been drilled in my head. I find it hard to believe that im at a surplus eating around 1200 cals a day. I HAVE gotten comments since the beginning of my cut that i look "bigger". I just thought maybe it was an illusion from losing fat but then again, the scale doesnt move. I have not ever taken bf measurements but before my cut I could not see any abs and now i can see the top 4 when flexing and on an empty stomach. I hope what you say is right but how can i really STRIP the fat off if i really want to cut as opposed to my, what appears to be, recomp.
    Originally Posted by t0mmyb0y View Post
    also to add.... that transition from no abs, to top 4 happend durring like the first 2 weeks for the most part. i figured most was water. Since then there has been little change to my body from what i can notice.
    again its really hard to tell if you dont know your body composition.
    basing on your stats, your BMR should be around 1700 cal. plus more for your maintenance. Having an intake of 1200 surely is not a surplus, you are clearly on the cut.

    To answer why your weight is not dropping as you expected then you have to start knowing your bfat%.

    it could have been better if you got all info before you start cutting so you can compare the difference against your new results the moment you get it.
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    Originally Posted by gourlay View Post
    only lost 3lbs in 14weeks?
    Yes Well, it'll be 12 weeks friday but my original plan was to run it 12-14 weeks. Not much left to go. my scale as gone from 157.0 lb to 153.4 lb since start. Real freakin bummer. Mind you, with the little change in the scale, i have still stayed 100 percent dedicated till the end. Maybe I need to put on some more mass on another bulk and try again after that? Im not scrawny but im not big either. Been training for about a year.
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    Originally Posted by jinda628 View Post
    again its really hard to tell if you dont know your body composition.
    basing on your stats, your BMR should be around 1700 cal. plus more for your maintenance. Having an intake of 1200 surely is not a surplus, you are clearly on the cut.

    To answer why your weight is not dropping as you expected then you have to start knowing your bfat%.

    it could have been better if you got all info before you start cutting so you can compare the difference against your new results the moment you get it.
    Yea I wish i took measurements but I really didnt think it would be this difficult. Im going to stick it out for another 2 weeks and start back on a bulk. Maybe i just need to do more direct core work to get my abs to really pop out (abs were my goal for this cut). I still look "soft" tho :/
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    erm I'm confused...did this thread get hijacked?
    The body doesn't struggle to lose weight...the mind does - keep measurements, keep your sanity.

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    Originally Posted by t0mmyb0y View Post
    Yea I wish i took measurements but I really didnt think it would be this difficult. Im going to stick it out for another 2 weeks and start back on a bulk. Maybe i just need to do more direct core work to get my abs to really pop out (abs were my goal for this cut). I still look "soft" tho :/
    they said abs may be visible about 12% or less BFR. you don't even know your BFR. i think that should be your target now. try to get some BFR measurement.

    as mentioned normally in this site, doing more ab training doesn't guarantee you seeing your six pack if you have 20% overall body fat.
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    erm I'm confused...did this thread get hijacked?
    lol i guess yeah
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    Weighing myself after each workout. Weight has stayed the same. Been at it for 6 weeks now. Thought I would have seen noticible difference by now.
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    Originally Posted by ViktorM View Post
    Weighing myself after each workout. Weight has stayed the same. Been at it for 6 weeks now. Thought I would have seen noticible difference by now.
    Should weigh yourself in the morning, not after a heavy work out. Your body retains water in the muscle afterwards so it can skew the results. Should do it in the morning when you are 'dried' out.
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