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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    No way he east 9.5k calories a day. When most pros talk about how much they eat, they are usually saying something along the lines of 5-6k a day. And Phil is not exactly a 300lb Ronnie Coleman, so there is no reason for him to consume so much more than other pros. No doubt he could manage that in a day, but there is no way it's every day.



    Oh, you mean like metabolism? The thing that differs immensely from person to person? Yeah, good luck trying to find an average buddy.
    Phil looks too lean year round IMO to process 9K per day, thats what i was meaning. Agree also Phil is not a 300lb Ronnie. Look how huge and bloated Yates looked on his 6K max per day. Phil would have to be burning off so many calories per hour to stay as lean as he does on 9k.
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    Originally Posted by JanesLastResort View Post
    Their sponsors benefit from pros if they use their products mostly, not becase they say pros eat food.

    And why is this so hard to believe? I wont take sides on this one, just saying i wouldn't be surprised at all if it was true.
    To the average person who might be on the fence that pros use gear, having them eat a lot of food makes it more "believable" that they just take legal supps."Oh, these guys just eat a lot of clean food and take muscletech products", not " Oh, these guys only eat 4000 cals a day?...maybe they do use". Also, having them eat absurd amounts of carb and protein and calories will make people think "Oh, I can't afford all that food....but I can hit these macros with some why protein!!"
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    Some people keep missing the fact it said 2 meals were optional.
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    Originally Posted by BlackNumero View Post
    To the average person who might be on the fence that pros use gear, having them eat a lot of food makes it more "believable" that they just take legal supps."Oh, these guys just eat a lot of clean food and take muscletech products", not " Oh, these guys only eat 4000 cals a day?...maybe they do use". Also, having them eat absurd amounts of carb and protein and calories will make people think "Oh, I can't afford all that food....but I can hit these macros with some why protein!!"
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    This thread is still going?

    Protip: no one knows for sure except Heath, and why would it even matter how much he is eating? Are you going to copy his diet AND his training... then try and get his gear cycle?

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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    No way he east 9.5k calories a day. When most pros talk about how much they eat, they are usually saying something along the lines of 5-6k a day. And Phil is not exactly a 300lb Ronnie Coleman, so there is no reason for him to consume so much more than other pros. No doubt he could manage that in a day, but there is no way it's every day.



    Oh, you mean like metabolism? The thing that differs immensely from person to person? Yeah, good luck trying to find an average buddy.
    Shut your mouth. You weigh 180lbs at 20% bf. You know nothing about bodybuilding or this sport so shut the **** up. You will never step on stage so don't pretend you know what pros eat.


    Seriously.. everyone here needs to shut the hell up that doesn't believe it. Most people who don't believe it are small as hell and don't even know a top 20 national guy, let alone pros. There is a reason why Phil Heath is 270 12% bf and most of you are 180lbs. In before omg its steroids and genetics.. how about you shut the hell up and stop eating like a girl.
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    The classic "I'm bigger than you so your argument is invalid" or "you're less than 200lbs so shut up". Nice.......

    Phil might hit those numbers once in a blue moon, but not everyday. I don't care if Phil himself comes in and here and says so.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    The classic "I'm bigger than you so your argument is invalid" or "you're less than 200lbs so shut up". Nice.......
    LOL so you are triyng to tell me you know how to eat to be 270lbs lean? No, you don't.
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    LOL so you are triyng to tell me you know how to eat to be 270lbs lean? No, you don't.
    No I'm not. You're right I don't. Neither do you.
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    LOL so you are triyng to tell me you know how to eat to be 270lbs lean? No, you don't.
    haha im sure everyones response to this will be, "well if i was on gear id be that size too!!!"
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    No I'm not. You're right I don't. Neither do you.
    Yes, but I have bulked to 255 at 5'8 and know actual top NPC guys. Have you?
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    Yes, but I have bulked to 255 at 5'8 and know actual top NPC guys. Have you?
    I've been 210 at 5'7. I'd like to see some pics of you at 5'8 255. I could bulk to 255 too, but I'd be a fat tub of goo.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    I've been 210 at 5'7. I'd like to see some pics of you at 5'8 255. I could bulk to 255 too, but I'd be a fat tub of goo.
    I love when members on here boast about their weight. Brb Matty, being 50lbs overweight and thinking that's impressive
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    I've been 210 at 5'7. I'd like to see some pics of you at 5'8 255. I could bulk to 255 too, but I'd be a fat tub of goo.


    produces this at just under 4 weeks out at 210lbs



    could I have stayed leaner.. yes.. would have I gained 10lbs of muscle in a 6 month offseason? no.
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    I'm claiming to know anything at all about what an enhanced bb'er should be eating. However, I do have some common sense, I understand that 95% of what is in those mags is complete BS, and Phil isn't a 300lb mass monster. Like I said, I have no problem believing that he hits 9,000 ONCE IN A BLUE MOON. His averages are no where near that.
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post


    produces this at just under 4 weeks out at 210lbs



    could I have stayed leaner.. yes.. would have I gained 10lbs of muscle in a 6 month offseason? no.
    Pretty decent conditioning actually if you're really 255lbs in that pic. Weight is very hard to judge from pics alone so I'll just have to take your word for it. It doesn't change my opinion about Phil's diet though.
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    Originally Posted by DavisForman View Post
    I love when members on here boast about their weight. Brb Matty, being 50lbs overweight and thinking that's impressive
    Does it upset you I was the same bf% as you 70lbs heavier and the same height lolz
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    Haha another thread of Matt with his his pictures why am I not surprised?
    Dude you look great but there was no need to do that. You probably did this like 10 times and I m here since just 09

    Whatever, I believe Phil is eating that much. I am a natural who hit 190 mark this year and there were days when I ate 5-6 K and I would go to bed wake up and take a dump. I would lose pretty much all that I gained the night before. I have a quick metabolism I guess because if I lose one or two meals I lose about 1-2 pounds. I don't know it might be slow too. You have to compare it to other people and my roommates don't have that much of a fast metabolism.
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    Originally Posted by zmcdole View Post
    Pretty decent conditioning actually if you're really 255lbs in that pic. Weight is very hard to judge from pics alone so I'll just have to take your word for it. It doesn't change my opinion about Phil's diet though.
    I was fat and watery.. I lost like 15lbs in two weeks from those pics lol

    I was eating 6500 cals a day.. I also don't have Phil Heath genetics
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    id believe it if phil himself said it.

    i was eating 4k cals a day when i was around 180 and have never eaten less than 4500/day since i hit 200 lbs. like the guys said before, metabolic rate varies. theres no set amount of calories that everyone can eat.


    im around 215 right now and maybe 15% bf and i manage to hit 5k most days. phil has 100+lbs more lean mass than me. plus the gear and other anabolics. i have no problem believing it.
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    Originally Posted by Gorky88 View Post
    Haha another thread of Matt with his his pictures why am I not surprised?
    Dude you look great but there was no need to do that. You probably did this like 10 times and I m here since just 09

    Whatever, I believe Phil is eating that much. I am a natural who hit 190 mark this year and there were days when I ate 5-6 K and I would go to bed wake up and take a dump. I would lose pretty much all that I gained the night before. I have a quick metabolism I guess because if I lose one or two meals I lose about 1-2 pounds. I don't know it might be slow too. You have to compare it to other people and my roommates don't have that much of a fast metabolism.
    People call me out.. I try to live the bodybuilding lifestyle, while most here do not. He asked to see pics of me at 255lbs. So I showed him.
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    These numbers are absolutly and completely believable.

    Not sure if you guys know who this is, but a man names Winston Roberts is a part time trainer at my gym. He was a former pro and is now an ifbb judge. He told me he judges the Olympia as well. He also claims to know most of the current top guys. So whenever I see him we always have a good convo about bbing. I asked him about the pros diets and what they are like.

    First off he said, any diet you see in a mag that claims guys like jay and Phil are eating 4000-5000kcal a day is a joke. They eat double that. A meal containing 1000kcal can be quite standard for most of these guys, and most of them eat anywhere between 7-10 times a day, depending on the pro.

    For those of you who actually think guys like jay eat 4000kcal, even when dieting you gotta get down to earth. These guys walk around at almost 270-290lbs under 10% year around. You actually think that's possible eating 4000kcal?? Lol I eat 4000cals and still get hungry. If the pros where actually to post they're diets your jaws would drop. Most people won't be able to fathom the amount of food they eat.

    Anyways, that's what I've been told, by someone who knew Ben and Joe weider well. I'll take his word over anyones here. Believe it or not, it's the truth.
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    2 meals are optional... doesn't sound too unrealistic

    but honestly who really cares lol, he eats a sh!tload and there's no need for us mortals to know the exact amount
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    Originally Posted by schabowy90 View Post
    like i said though theres a macro breakdown and listing of every single fish oil, chicken, measurement of rice hes comsuming....**** it ill just write it out

    meal 1 -8egg whites 8oz sirloin 1.5 cup oats 745 calories +somesupps

    meal 2 -12 oz sirloin 1.5 cups rice 1500mg glucosamine 939 cals

    meal 3 -12 oz groud turkey 1 tbsp grape seed oil. 12 oz baked potato 903 cals

    prework- 275 cals

    during workout -160 cals

    post shake- 620 cals (celltech hardcore + nitrotech isolate)

    meal 4- 12 oz chicken 12 oz yams 990 calories

    meal 5 -(CHEAT) 10 oz teriyaki chicken 1.5 rice 2 diet cokes 1philly role 1 cream salmon roll tempura fried 2 large tempura shrimp 2 hibachi yellowtail sushi 6 piece salmon sushi salad 2407 cals

    meal 6 -12 oz sirloin 1.5 cups rice 942 cals

    meal 7- 12 oz tilappia broccoli 1 tbsp grapeseedoil 617 cals

    meal 8 (optional)- 10oz sirloin plus veggies (value based on 2 cups) 796 cals
    That's the big one. Celltech value in calories must be multiplied by 10.000 because it is in fact 10.000 times more anabolic than anything.
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    Originally Posted by ildevilon View Post
    If you think for single moment that on any of his meals there is one type of clean food you are nuts

    Guys like him waking up to bowl of fruits and bowl of cereal with whole milk and pancakes,
    and go to sleep after eating pack of ice cream.

    the amount of GH in their system + the slin ( that while on you MUST eat)
    allow them to do so, and im not talking about the grams of all other kind of hormones that make it even easier to consume that crazy amount of food.

    so that's kind of B.S to write down the exact amount of cals per day, because one day it might be 8k and on the another it might be 11k

    and that's why they can eat up to 300+ carbs on the week b4 contest and still getting paper skin dry and body fat at 4-3%.

    now go back to the 70's and 80's and take a look at their physiques on the day of the show, and think about what is missing there....
    (hint: it's not their genetics)
    Lol at the retardness of this post and i didn't even went forward than the first paragraph.
    It's a shame institutions let their retards break free.
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    Take away the cheat meal which isn't every day and he's just under 7,000 cals. Take off the muscletech supps(which he may or may not use) and he's in the 6,0000 calorie range.
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    Originally Posted by OtisBDriftwood View Post
    Lol at the retardness of this post and i didn't even went forward than the first paragraph.
    It's a shame institutions let their retards break free.
    I don't know , i kinda like the idea of GH allowing you to eat as much ice cream as you want.


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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    People call me out.. I try to live the bodybuilding lifestyle, while most here do not. He asked to see pics of me at 255lbs. So I showed him.
    Lol. People are bound to ask for pics when you are constantly talking about yourself.

    I gotta say, between you and Trulyhuge, there must be an insane amount of knowledge! Because apparently you can only have an opinion on something if you have done it... And you guys have done it so much you are basically unofficial pros, right?



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