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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
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    [img]comic where hitler=jesus
    oh and here I thought a comic showing hitler was really jesus would be funny, silly me. Concept was okay i guess, shouldn't have picked hitler though.
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    Originally Posted by redfield11 View Post
    oh and here I thought a comic showing hitler was really jesus would be funny, silly me. Concept was okay i guess, shouldn't have picked hitler though.
    explain
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    It's scary that a lot of Christians actually think this.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    It's scary that a lot of Christians actually think this.
    lol are you serious?
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    Originally Posted by redfield11 View Post
    oh and here I thought a comic showing hitler was really jesus would be funny, silly me. Concept was okay i guess, shouldn't have picked hitler though.
    I think you might just be mad for some reason.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    It's scary that a lot of Christians actually think this.
    Hitler did and he was pretty well known for stating he was a Catholic, that Germany was a Christian nation, over and over etc. Perhaps he read the book of John one too many times... it is a pretty anti-semetic work.

    The popularity of Mel Gibson's The Passion also shows that a lot of Christians still blame the Jews for this act. I am not saying they would actually commit violent acts against them, as I don't think the greater majority of them are actually violent people, but it could be seen as being hateful.
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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    Hitler did and he was pretty well known for stating he was a Catholic, that Germany was a Christian nation, over and over etc. Perhaps he read the book of John one too many times... it is a pretty anti-semetic work.

    The popularity of Mel Gibson's The Passion also shows that a lot of Christians still blame the Jews for this act. I am not saying they would actually commit violent acts against them, as I don't think the greater majority of them are actually violent people, but it could be seen as being hateful.
    If you read through the Bible I think you'd come to the conclusion that the Jews were simply the means through which Christ was sacrificed, the greatest gift the world has ever received. I don't see how Christians would be angry at Jews for playing their 'chosen' role in redemption. I wouldn't correlate popularity of the Passion with antisemitism hateful feelings.

    Hitler, and plenty of mankind have stated their Christians but realize humanity is sinful and often wrong. Just b/c a person claims to have faith doesn't mean they're any less susceptible to committing sin.


    also; old joke is old.
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    Originally Posted by wontcuddle2 View Post
    If you read through the Bible I think you'd come to the conclusion that the Jews were simply the means through which Christ was sacrificed, the greatest gift the world has ever received. I don't see how Christians would be angry at Jews for playing their 'chosen' role in redemption. I wouldn't correlate popularity of the Passion with antisemitism hateful feelings.

    Hitler, and plenty of mankind have stated their Christians but realize humanity is sinful and often wrong. Just b/c a person claims to have faith doesn't mean they're any less susceptible to committing sin.


    also; old joke is old.
    Actually I was raised as a Christian and am intimately familiar with the fine details of the Bible (I had read the entire KJB and NIV prior to finishing high school as well as heavily researched both old and new testiment history prior to becoming agnostic).

    As to your statement I would say you personally in this day and age feel that way, however historically the church, governments and organizations have used the book of John as inspiration to commit acts of violence against Jews which I feel is very sad considering this is a work of religious fiction not real history. Now do not get my wrong, I feel Judaism has its own set of issues but I'm hardly for pinning the blame of an event that probably never happened on them because some members of their religion are believed to have committed it 2000 years ago. Not everyone feels that way.

    As for condemnation of modern Christians for acts previously committed by the church, it should be kept in mind that speaking out against these acts against the only organization promoting Christianity during those centuries would have gotten you put to death for heresy. It is a difficult debate to win when one claims that even though their faith might hve had violent origins, that today people practice a different version and those others were not true beleivers of the faith when your faith sprang from them and even the text themselves are quite violent and hateful when you actually sit down and read them in their entirety. A lot of Christians, such as myself and a number of my friends, actually leave Christianity after being horrified by what they find in the scriptures themselves or in the historical origins of their religion.
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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    Hitler did and he was pretty well known for stating he was a Catholic, that Germany was a Christian nation, over and over etc. Perhaps he read the book of John one too many times... it is a pretty anti-semetic work.

    The popularity of Mel Gibson's The Passion also shows that a lot of Christians still blame the Jews for this act. I am not saying they would actually commit violent acts against them, as I don't think the greater majority of them are actually violent people, but it could be seen as being hateful.
    The popularity of The Passion doesn't show that a lot of Christians blame the Jews, lmao. That's a non sequitur fo sho. I love that movie, and I harbor no animosity for Jewish people. The Jewish and Roman officials of the time were the primary culprits...that has nothing to do with any Jews or Romans after them.

    Yes, either the book of John influenced Hitler to commit genocide against Jews and the disabled, as well as advocate for an Aryan super race or his twisted psychosis did. That's a tough one....
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    Originally Posted by ONtop888 View Post
    The popularity of The Passion doesn't show that a lot of Christians blame the Jews, lmao. That's a non sequitur fo sho. I love that movie, and I harbor no animosity for Jewish people. The Jewish and Roman officials of the time were the primary culprits...that has nothing to do with any Jews or Romans after them.

    Yes, either the book of John influenced Hitler to commit genocide against Jews and the disabled, as well as advocate for an Aryan super race or his twisted psychosis did. That's a tough one....
    Ok given the facts that:
    1) the ONLY evidence you have of any Jew playing a part in the death of Jesus is in mythology, not in actual historical texts therefore not a historical fact.

    2) Hitler did use this story against the Jews openly as a reason to persecute them.

    3) the church has a history of persecution and even murder of Jews for playing a role in the killing of Jesus.

    That when people make movies about, or even say as you just did, that Jews played a part in the death of Jesus that it could very easily been seen as being hateful? Especially given the historical use of this thought and the fact that it isn't even considered to be a historical fact due to lack of proper historical sources for it?
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    Originally Posted by Reformed90 View Post
    lol are you serious?
    Yes, it's the typical blame-the-victims crap. Jews have only themselves to blame for the Holocaust, witches caused the earthquake in Haiti, and Africa suffers because their distant ancestor laughed at his drunk father.
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    Originally Posted by Boffothe View Post
    explain
    Making a comic saying Hitler was jesus (and I know its a joke so it's not a literal thing) is pretty bad. Saying the nice guy that christianity is based off of came back and caused the holocaust is a no no. I'm not religious and i think thats a dick move by the comic guys.

    It would be like making a comic of that same thing but then having jesus be the guys that took out the twin towers. Its a big deal that you shouldn't even try to make funny.

    Edit: I don't really feel that strongly about this but was asked to explain so I did.
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    Originally Posted by redfield11 View Post
    Making a comic saying Hitler was jesus (and I know its a joke so it's not a literal thing) is pretty bad. Saying the nice guy that christianity is based off of came back and caused the holocaust is a no no. I'm not religious and i think thats a dick move by the comic guys.

    It would be like making a comic of that same thing but then having jesus be the guys that took out the twin towers. Its a big deal that you shouldn't even try to make funny.
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    Originally Posted by r0gue6 View Post
    You must be a hit at parties.....
    it helps to not make jokes about things like the holocaust. Don't worry though one day people may enjoy your company at a party too, just have patience.
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