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    How many grams of carbs?!

    If I'm trying to keep body fat low and build muscle, how many grams of carbs should I be eating a day? Also are the carbs from fruits the same as carbs from breads?
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    Don't worry about keeping bodyfat low. The more you nitpick things that harder it'll be to gain muscle. To prevent becoming fat though, just don't eat simple sugars, trans fatty foods, and other processed crap. Try to eat as healthy as possible. I like to try getting in 2g of carbs per lb of bodyweight, but this will become reality in the summer when I can work and buy more of my own food.
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    Originally Posted by Maxwell1995 View Post
    Don't worry about keeping bodyfat low. The more you nitpick things that harder it'll be to gain muscle. To prevent becoming fat though, just don't eat simple sugars, trans fatty foods, and other processed crap. Try to eat as healthy as possible. I like to try getting in 2g of carbs per lb of bodyweight, but this will become reality in the summer when I can work and buy more of my own food.
    2g of carbs per pound of bodyweight... please, if you value your body, dont do that.
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    Originally Posted by Maxwell1995 View Post
    Don't worry about keeping bodyfat low. The more you nitpick things that harder it'll be to gain muscle. To prevent becoming fat though, just don't eat simple sugars, trans fatty foods, and other processed crap. Try to eat as healthy as possible. I like to try getting in 2g of carbs per lb of bodyweight, but this will become reality in the summer when I can work and buy more of my own food.
    wut..?


    carbs dont make you fat, excess calories do.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    2g of carbs per pound of bodyweight... please, if you value your body, dont do that.
    Why? 180 * 2 = 360 360 * 4 = 1440 calories. On a 40/40/20 diet this may not be ideal for me, but I'm still working on things. 1.25-2 is generally the range I want to be in. Any lower and I find it hard to get enough in the gain weight.
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    Originally Posted by joebrosef View Post
    wut..?


    carbs dont make you fat, excess calories do.
    Carbs are very abundant in most foods. I would imagine that in a normal day you would consume more carbs than anything else if you didn't watch what you ate.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    2g of carbs per pound of bodyweight... please, if you value your body, dont do that.
    Good cuz I take 2.2g of carbs x bw
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    Originally Posted by Maxwell1995 View Post
    Carbs are very abundant in most foods. I would imagine that in a normal day you would consume more carbs than anything else if you didn't watch what you ate.
    Carbs are abundant in 95% of foods. Type 1 diabetic, and I follow that **** as if my life depends on it (srs). Try eating more complex carbs, brown+ whole wheat rice+breads>All white. White stuff is all sugars, no fibres. You want lots of fibres, which you get from the browns. Make sure you are taking in fat still, just the good fats. Protein+fats keep a low glycemic index and help your insulin levels stay even and not spike, which is good if you are tryin to gain muscle, don't want the cells to be taking excess ****. Luck bro!
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    Originally Posted by VinniePaz View Post
    Carbs are abundant in 95% of foods. Type 1 diabetic, and I follow that **** as if my life depends on it (srs). Try eating more complex carbs, brown+ whole wheat rice+breads>All white. White stuff is all sugars, no fibres. You want lots of fibres, which you get from the browns. Make sure you are taking in fat still, just the good fats. Protein+fats keep a low glycemic index and help your insulin levels stay even and not spike, which is good if you are tryin to gain muscle, don't want the cells to be taking excess ****. Luck bro!
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    im currently bulking and i try to get 1g per pound of body weight with 90% of them being in my breakfast and pre, post work out works for me

    when i cut i go for arpund 150g all of them around my pre and post work out.
    and for carbs sources i go for oats veggies and ww bread.
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    Originally Posted by Maxwell1995 View Post
    Why? 180 * 2 = 360 360 * 4 = 1440 calories. On a 40/40/20 diet this may not be ideal for me, but I'm still working on things. 1.25-2 is generally the range I want to be in. Any lower and I find it hard to get enough in the gain weight.
    the 40/40/20 ratio is not optimal for health and wellbeing. carbs from grains and starching foods like breads, pasta, rice, potato do more harm to you than good in the long run. They make you vunerable to lifestyle diseases, promote inflammation and have ant-nutrients.
    eat more fats and protein.

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    Carbs are very abundant in most foods. I would imagine that in a normal day you would consume more carbs than anything else if you didn't watch what you ate.
    since agriculture started about 10,000 years ago people have been getting sicker and fatter.

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    Carbs are abundant in 95% of foods. Type 1 diabetic, and I follow that **** as if my life depends on it (srs). Try eating more complex carbs, brown+ whole wheat rice+breads>All white. White stuff is all sugars, no fibres. You want lots of fibres, which you get from the browns. Make sure you are taking in fat still, just the good fats. Protein+fats keep a low glycemic index and help your insulin levels stay even and not spike, which is good if you are tryin to gain muscle, don't want the cells to be taking excess ****. Luck bro!
    the nutrition profile of brown rice, whole wheat bread and pasta is sh*t when compared to vegetables and fruit.

    theres more fibre and vitamins + minerals in fruit and veggies than there will ever be in starchy carbs.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    the nutrition profile of brown rice, whole wheat bread and pasta is sh*t when compared to vegetables and fruit.

    theres more fibre and vitamins + minerals in fruit and veggies than there will ever be in starchy carbs.
    Brown rice = complex = body burns more calories trying to break it down

    Fruits = simple = good for breakfasts', pre and post workout.

    You're comparing fructose (a monosaccharide ) to a polysaccharide, although I understand fruits and veggies usually have more minerals, vitamins, etc.

    Also to answer OP's question, if you really want to find an estimate for how many carbs / proteins / fats to consume, PM me or just look up how to find your maintenance calories, and from there, if you're cutting just lower your maintenance by 500 or so.

    Edit: Didn't see you wrote you also want to build muscle while burning fat, which is very hard to do. To make things simple, building muscle results from eating more; calorie surplus. Burning fat results from eating less; calorie deficit. Other than that, just use some cell-tech, brah. You'll be a lean-mean-shredded-machine.
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    Originally Posted by Jonglex View Post
    Brown rice = complex = body burns more calories trying to break it down

    Fruits = simple = good for breakfasts', pre and post workout.

    You're comparing fructose (a monosaccharide ) to a polysaccharide, although I understand fruits and veggies usually have more minerals, vitamins, etc.

    Also to answer OP's question, if you really want to find an estimate for how many carbs / proteins / fats to consume, PM me or just look up how to find your maintenance calories, and from there, if you're cutting just lower your maintenance by 500 or so.

    Edit: Didn't see you wrote you also want to build muscle while burning fat, which is very hard to do. To make things simple, building muscle results from eating more; calorie surplus. Burning fat results from eating less; calorie deficit. Other than that, just use some cell-tech, brah. You'll be a lean-mean-shredded-machine.
    what are you trying to say? fruits and vegetables are superior in every way to grains and other starchy carbohydrates.

    and simple carbohydrates can be low GI as well as high GI.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    what are you trying to say? fruits and vegetables are superior in every way to grains and other starchy carbohydrates.

    and simple carbohydrates can be low GI as well as high GI.
    I don't know if I would say "superior in every way," since grains do have their benefits, especially for people bulking, but you do state a valid point about the high GI and low GI.
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    Originally Posted by Jonglex View Post
    I don't know if I would say "superior in every way," since grains do have their benefits, especially for people bulking, but you do state a valid point about the high GI and low GI.
    Can you please enlighten me. What can a grain do that a fruit or vegetable cannot?
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    Can you please enlighten me. What can a grain do that a fruit or vegetable cannot?
    Well not necessarily vitamin wise and such, but I mean you're not going to see an athlete "bulking up" on vegetables now are you? That would be a ****-ton of veggies.
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    Originally Posted by Jonglex View Post
    Well not necessarily vitamin wise and such, but I mean you're not going to see an athlete "bulking up" on vegetables now are you? That would be a ****-ton of veggies.
    I get the vast majority of my carbohydrates from fruits and vegetables, not particularly difficult. Probably juice a dozen apples a day plus heaps of other fruit + veggies.


    Only time I eat any other form of carbohydrates is a serve of rice with my pre-workout meal.
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    Do you guys have any nutritional education background? I've heard that info about grains in a bias movie called fathead. Not sure how factual it is or isn't.
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    Originally Posted by MrB1g View Post
    I get the vast majority of my carbohydrates from fruits and vegetables, not particularly difficult. Probably juice a dozen apples a day plus heaps of other fruit + veggies.


    Only time I eat any other form of carbohydrates is a serve of rice with my pre-workout meal.
    I have been enlightened.

    How many meals a day are you eating and what other foods do you incorporate?
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    Originally Posted by Jonglex View Post
    Well not necessarily vitamin wise and such, but I mean you're not going to see an athlete "bulking up" on vegetables now are you? That would be a ****-ton of veggies.
    you're right Jonglex.

    It is much easy to get a lot of calories from potatoes, breads, pastas, rice, than it is from vegetables.

    Lets take that further. Its really really easy to consume a lot of calories from ice cream, or even plain maltodextrin, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.

    You are a smart person Jonglex. how about we eat more healthy foods instead of choosing that might not be optimal for our health and wellbeing. More meat, fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, oils, fats.
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    Smile 2 kinds of carbs

    Low glycemic n high glycemic

    low glycemic carbs burn up fast n help ur muscles uptake protein after a workout n give you energy for a workout so you eat them right b4 n right after a workout..these would be bread like white bread or a bagle or a orange or banana ur body turns them into sugar,glycogen,which it burns for energy...if you eat too many of these at other times ur body will store them as fat..
    High glycemic carbs are oatmeal,vegetables,salads,100% whole wheat products and beans..things that dont digest so fast n burn slowly during the course of the day to give you sustasined energy that can be stored as glycogen in ur muscles

    the more carbs you eat the more calories you take in and the more calories you take in the bigger you will get..so to cut you need 10 calories per lb of ur body weight n to bulk you need 20 so to stay the same weight about 15 calories per lb is good..you need 1.5 g or protein per lb no matter what..so ur carbs will be determined by how many non protein calories you eat which includes good fats like peanut b utter that are very important for ur body to make testosterone ..
    So the calories from carbs will determine if you lose.stay the same or gain weight..
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    you're right Jonglex.

    It is much easy to get a lot of calories from potatoes, breads, pastas, rice, than it is from vegetables.

    Lets take that further. Its really really easy to consume a lot of calories from ice cream, or even plain maltodextrin, dextrose, high fructose corn syrup.

    You are a smart person Jonglex. how about we eat more healthy foods instead of choosing that might not be optimal for our health and wellbeing. More meat, fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, oils, fats.
    Indubitably, but unfortunately eating junk food (the common "dirty bulk") is what many do, although I myself choose not to.
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    Originally Posted by Jonglex View Post
    Indubitably, but unfortunately eating junk food (the common "dirty bulk") is what many do, although I myself choose not to.
    For the past few days I've been eating nothing but healthy. I'd say the worst thing I've eaten in the past few days is a slice of bread. I will continue to eat healthy and stay away from the junk food! Hopefully this will help me continue to build muscle while gaining little to no fat.
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    Originally Posted by xCody View Post
    For the past few days I've been eating nothing but healthy. I'd say the worst thing I've eaten in the past few days is a slice of bread. I will continue to eat healthy and stay away from the junk food! Hopefully this will help me continue to build muscle while gaining little to no fat.
    It won't make any difference...Eating healthy has nothing to do with it.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    what are you trying to say? fruits and vegetables are superior in every way to grains and other starchy carbohydrates.

    and simple carbohydrates can be low GI as well as high GI.
    Go eat fruit for every meal every day lemme know how it goes thanks.
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    Originally Posted by VinniePaz View Post
    Go eat fruit for every meal every day lemme know how it goes thanks.
    Like I said before, fruit and vegetables make up about 85% of my carbohydrate intake.


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