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    What is more important Carbs or Protein while bulking?

    When bulking is it more important to get more carbs or protein (as long as you hit your 1-1.5g/lbm) for building muscle?

    Please don't flame!!!!
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    Both, duh assuming their good carbs and not sugar
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    Originally Posted by camibrian2000 View Post
    When bulking is it more important to get more carbs or protein (as long as you hit your 1-1.5g/lbm) for building muscle?

    Please don't flame!!!!
    Carbs, straight up.

    if you are getting your daily protein needs you should get your additional calories from carbs.
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    Would you recommend the entire surplus be comprised of carbs or would you add additional fats also?
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    Protein intake should be 1.0 to 1.5 grams per pound of lean body mass.
    Fat intake should be 0.45 to 1.0 grams per pound of bodyweight.
    The remainder of your calories should be composed of your preferred mix of carbs and additional protein and fat.
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    loling @ IIFYM crew tag.
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    Originally Posted by krs128 View Post
    Carbs, straight up.

    if you are getting your daily protein needs you should get your additional calories from carbs.
    Ah, I think you forgot something: dietary fat.
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    Originally Posted by SipNPiz View Post
    Both, duh assuming their good carbs and not sugar
    What's wrong with sugar BRO?

    Also, what makes a particular carb bad?..
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Protein intake should be 1.0 to 1.5 grams per pound of lean body mass.
    Fat intake should be 0.45 to 1.0 grams per pound of bodyweight.
    The remainder of your calories should be composed of your preferred mix of carbs and additional protein and fat.
    lol @ 1 gram of fat per bw.
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    Thanks for the replies

    So if maintenance was 1900-2000cal/d and macros were 150-200p/55-70f/125-150c meeting all macronutrient requirements, would you recommend that the entire surplus be made up of carbs or would you split the surplus into carbs/fat/prot?
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    Originally Posted by camibrian2000 View Post
    Thanks for the replies

    So if maintenance was 1900-2000cal/d and macros were 150-200p/55-70f/125-150c meeting all macronutrient requirements, would you recommend that the entire surplus be made up of carbs or would you split the surplus into carbs/fat/prot?
    Whatever you want brah.

    Although, I would recommend you stay closer to that 70g fat/day.


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    Originally Posted by camibrian2000 View Post
    Would you recommend the entire surplus be comprised of carbs or would you add additional fats also?


    Technically and very generally speaking once protein and fat has been set the entire surplus should be from crabs.

    Those with crab tolerance issues or just low crab requirements may need to lower crabs and raise their fats instead.

    And of course just exactly where you set your fat and protein intakes is also a matter of personal preference and needs, and would thus also effect how many crabs you eat.

    And finally when the surplus is small people report no ill effects from making the surplus come evenly from all 3 macroz.
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    Originally Posted by N01SYtZ View Post
    lol @ 1 gram of fat per bw.
    this, strong bull****

    carbs all day
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    Originally Posted by JohnBrowne View Post
    this, strong bull****

    carbs all day
    Yes. Cannot imagine myself eating 120 grams of fat. I barely make 50.
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    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    Yes. Cannot imagine myself eating 120 grams of fat. I barely make 50.
    Carboholics, unite!
    Iwould be taking in 210 grams of fat lmao..
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    my calorie break down for weiging around 180lbs, 220-230g protein, 65-75g fat, 380-420g carbs. and when ever i feel i need to add more calories its always carbs
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    Originally Posted by N01SYtZ View Post
    Iwould be taking in 210 grams of fat lmao..
    For me 1080 calories from fat (120 grams) out of 1800 total calories.
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    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    Yes. Cannot imagine myself eating 120 grams of fat. I barely make 50.
    Carboholics, unite!

    Would this make WonderPug and I fatoholics?


    Personally/anecdotally I do best on 0.5g/lb fat (100 grams) and 1.5g/lb protein (300 grams), but if I ate what I want I would eat nothing but butter and flush it down with oil... srs.
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    Originally Posted by N01SYtZ View Post
    Iwould be taking in 210 grams of fat lmao..
    It's a range of intake that's generally from 0.45 grams up to 1 gram per pound of bodyweight, with many people doing well at the lower end of the range and some people, especially those with metabolic syndrom, doing well at the higher end of the range. Usually, those with higher dietary fat intake are those that need much lower carb intake.

    To learn more, please see: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
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    Originally Posted by kusok View Post
    Would this make WonderPug and I fatoholics?


    Personally/anecdotally I do best on 0.5g/lb fat (100 grams) and 1.5g/lb protein (300 grams), but if I ate what I want I would eat nothing but butter and flush it down with oil... srs.
    No, you are just fat
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    Originally Posted by N01SYtZ View Post
    unless you're ronnie coleman.. you do not need a gram of fat per bw
    NOBODY needs 1g of fat per pound of BW... it's ridiculous.
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    Originally Posted by juliacheh View Post
    Wonderpug is doing keto, so no questions for him.
    I'm not currently, though I have used a TKD protocol in the past.

    Currently, my CHO intake is about 120 grams (which keeps my out of ketosis), with fat intake in excess of 200 grams and protein intake just below 200 grams. At that intake, my weight is stable.

    I'm simply someone who performs better with higher fat intake. Most people seem to perform better with higher CHO intake, but a significant minority of the population react favorably to (relatively) high fat intake.
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    Originally Posted by JohnBrowne View Post
    NOBODY needs 1g of fat per pound of BW... it's ridiculous.
    I disagree, as does Emma-Leigh, who I'll quote below:

    Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh View Post
    2. Fats: Generally speaking, although the body can get away with short periods of very low fat, in the long run your body NEEDS fat to maintain general health, satiety, and sanity. Additionally - any form of high intensity training will benefit from a 'fat buffer' in your diet - which acts to control free radical damage and inflammation.

    General guides:
    Average or lean: 1 - 2g fat/ kg body weight [between 0.45 - 1g total weight/ pounds]
    High bodyfat: 1-2g fat/ LEAN weight [between 0.45 - 1g LEAN weight/ pounds]
    IF low calorie dieting - you can decrease further, but as a minimum, I would not suggest LESS than about 0.35g/ pound.
    Note 1: Total fat intake is NOT the same as 'essential fats' (essential fats are specific TYPES of fats that are INCLUDED in your total fat intake)...
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    WonderPug, can you elaborate a little more on metabolic syndrom?

    Thanks
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I disagree, as does Emma-Leigh, who I'll quote below:
    Yeah, and?
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    I will take Layne Norton's opinion over Emma Leigh's any day and I don't even like Layne.

    brb PhD in Nutritional Science, professional bodybuilder... vs anonymous mod
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    Originally Posted by camibrian2000 View Post
    WonderPug, can you elaborate a little more on metabolic syndrom?

    Metabolic syndrome is a name for a group of risk factors that occur together and increase the risk for coronary artery disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes. See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0004546/
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    Originally Posted by JohnBrowne View Post
    I will take Layne Norton's opinion over Emma Leigh's any day and I don't even like Layne.

    brb PhD in Nutritional Science, professional bodybuilder... vs anonymous mod
    Emma-Leigh (the anonymous mod you refer to) is a physician.
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