High Protien low Carb Diet

[jrothschild]

When people talk about High Protein and low carb diet,
what exactly is meant by low carbs?
for my diet I am targeting 50 grams of Carbs..
I got that from Mens Health.com
should I be trying for lower? and if so, how much lower?

[kneedragger85]

consult menshealth.com if it is their diet...they should have the details for you

[edyedy]

50 grams of carbs per day?!

[justinnnnn]

Visit the Keto section. Best low carb diet. (IMHO!)

[crsarellano]

50 grams of carbs WILL put you in keto LOL. you can go as low as 100 in keto. The levels of ketones in the blood wouldnt be as high as if you were at no carbs, but its easier to function. Some people ease into it that way.

[jerz_llano]

Idk, 50 grams per day seems very low! I lost about 90 lbs back in 2004/2005 doing low carb and high protein diet but never resorted to only 50 grams. I always looked at the type of carbs instead. Now I follow low carb/high pro/ high fiber 3 or 4 days a week and mod to high carb/high pro/ high fiber the rest of the days. But I always look at the type of carbs and make sure they are good carbs. On low carb days I get most my carbs from veg and fruits, except before and after workouts...

[DamolaJR]

It depends on how big you are. Just wondering...why are you looking for a low carb diet anyway?

[jrothschild]

It depends on how big you are. Just wondering...why are you looking for a low carb diet anyway?

Here's the scoop.
I'm 5'9 at 216. I started at 250
I got the info from here
menshealth.com/mhlists/sculpt_rock_hard_abs/Calculate_Your_Calories.php

Mens health had a formula of how much of what.. for a 200 lb guy, I should have 200 grams
of protein and Carbs came out to 50grams.



I just didn't know if that that seemed reasonable on any level.

[BabyFaceAssasin]

Hey jrothschild,

Congrats on your weight loss thus far! This is just my opinion...

50 grams is way too low. It's very tough to function on 50 grams of carbs per day. When your body doesn't have enough carbs, it begins to use protein and you lose muscle. Which you definitely don't want (as muscle plays a key role in burning fat). It's more important where you get those carbs from. Keep eating fruits and whole grains.

Don't listen to the diets from popular magazines as they are usually not effective.

My suggestions would be:

1) Cut out all pop and sugary drinks (if you haven't already done so). Replace with water or a bit of juice.

2) Replace ALL white flour products (bread, bagels, pasta) with WHOLE WHEAT or organic or multi-grain.

The first two alone make a huge difference.

3) Strength train (if you aren't already).

4) Focus on high intensity interval training for cardio. I'm not going to get in a debate as to why I believe that high intensity, shorter duration cardio is better for fat loss. Just google a picture of a sprinter and then of a marathon runner.

I think counting carbs is unneccessary. Just eat real foods: fruits, vegetables, lean meats, whole grains, etc...

Hope those help man!

[Keltron]

If you do end up doing low carb, make sure it's not low fat either. Actually, it should be high fat.

[SnakeE117]

When people talk about High Protein and low carb diet,
what exactly is meant by low carbs?
for my diet I am targeting 50 grams of Carbs..
I got that from Mens Health.com
should I be trying for lower? and if so, how much lower?

Way too low carb. intake. You may want to double check the source.

[loudz]

low carb high/fat protein diets are great, i've had personal success with the keto, diet all thre types(SKD.CKD.TKD)

If your going to have 50 g of carbs a day i would suggest the targeted keto diet where you ingest your carbs prior and post workout.. but if your going to drop to virtually 0 carbs then i would do a cyclical keto diet, where you carb load every 7-10 days for a 36 hour period.

[jerz_llano]

Hey jrothschild,

Congrats on your weight loss thus far! This is just my opinion...

50 grams is way too low. It's very tough to function on 50 grams of carbs per day. When your body doesn't have enough carbs, it begins to use protein and you lose muscle. Which you definitely don't want (as muscle plays a key role in burning fat). It's more important where you get those carbs from. Keep eating fruits and whole grains.

Don't listen to the diets from popular magazines as they are usually not effective.

My suggestions would be:

1) Cut out all pop and sugary drinks (if you haven't already done so). Replace with water or a bit of juice.

2) Replace ALL white flour products (bread, bagels, pasta) with WHOLE WHEAT or organic or multi-grain.

The first two alone make a huge difference.

3) Strength train (if you aren't already).

4) Focus on high intensity interval training for cardio. I'm not going to get in a debate as to why I believe that high intensity, shorter duration cardio is better for fat loss. Just google a picture of a sprinter and then of a marathon runner.

I think counting carbs is unneccessary. Just eat real foods: fruits, vegetables, lean meats, whole grains, etc...

Hope those help man!

Well said, pretty much what I was trying to say, just didnt have time to go into all the detail lol

[DamolaJR]

Hey jrothschild,

Congrats on your weight loss thus far! This is just my opinion...

50 grams is way too low. It's very tough to function on 50 grams of carbs per day. When your body doesn't have enough carbs, it begins to use protein and you lose muscle. Which you definitely don't want (as muscle plays a key role in burning fat). It's more important where you get those carbs from. Keep eating fruits and whole grains.

Don't listen to the diets from popular magazines as they are usually not effective.

My suggestions would be:

1) Cut out all pop and sugary drinks (if you haven't already done so). Replace with water or a bit of juice.

2) Replace ALL white flour products (bread, bagels, pasta) with WHOLE WHEAT or organic or multi-grain.

The first two alone make a huge difference.

3) Strength train (if you aren't already).

4) Focus on high intensity interval training for cardio. I'm not going to get in a debate as to why I believe that high intensity, shorter duration cardio is better for fat loss. Just google a picture of a sprinter and then of a marathon runner.

I think counting carbs is unneccessary. Just eat real foods: fruits, vegetables, lean meats, whole grains, etc...

Hope those help man!

That's why I asked...carbs are not the enemy that everyone makes them out to be. Keep the carbs (make smarter choices) and keep the energy in your workout and your life

Good luck bro!

[Keltron]

low carb high/fat protein diets are great, i've had personal success with the keto, diet all thre types(SKD.CKD.TKD)

If your going to have 50 g of carbs a day i would suggest the targeted keto diet where you ingest your carbs prior and post workout.. but if your going to drop to virtually 0 carbs then i would do a cyclical keto diet, where you carb load every 7-10 days for a 36 hour period.

Just out of curiousity, how was your strength and performance while on Keto?

[jknapik22]

Too low on carbs, my personal diet is around 150 carbs/day. I like to eat 3 meals per day with protein and carbs and three meals per day with protein and good fat (no saturated fats). The meals with carbs should be your first meal of the day then the other two around your workout.

[loudz]

Just out of curiousity, how was your strength and performance while on Keto?

pretty damn good when i allow that refeed period every 10 days or so,however its clear that strength gains and overall energy slowly diminish the longer you deplete... say three weeks without a reload. I haven't done anything past 3 weeks without a refeed but strength may have decreased slightly say 5-10% on major lifts like dl,squat,bench. My performance however was and still is great, no lethargy, and no lack of motivation when i see the bodyfat literally peeling off me from week to week.

[edyedy]

pretty damn good when i allow that refeed period every 10 days or so,however its clear that strength gains and overall energy slowly diminish the longer you deplete... say three weeks without a reload. I haven't done anything past 3 weeks without a refeed but strength may have decreased slightly say 5-10% on major lifts like dl,squat,bench. My performance however was and still is great, no lethargy, and no lack of motivation when i see the bodyfat literally peeling off me from week to week.

Are you taking any pre work out supp to help with the lifting? like Xpand or jack3d?

I noticed that when I am on low carb, I am literally losing strength and lift like sh*t ... it was really frustrating

Also arm size reduces

[Phayeser]

Too low on carbs, my personal diet is around 150 carbs/day. I like to eat 3 meals per day with protein and carbs and three meals per day with protein and good fat (no saturated fats). The meals with carbs should be your first meal of the day then the other two around your workout.

There's nothing wrong with saturated fats. You are doing yourself a disservice by avoiding them. Your testosterone level is probably non existent right now without them.

[loudz]

Are you taking any pre work out supp to help with the lifting? like Xpand or jack3d?

I noticed that when I am on low carb, I am literally losing strength and lift like sh*t ... it was really frustrating

Also arm size reduces

I am taking purple k, and do drink black coffee pre-workout. Make sure your getting both unsat and sat fats in your diet.

Everything should reduce, not just your arms. Cutting carbs essentially means cutting water from your body. every g of carbs = 2.6 g of water When you deplete glycogen levels aka carbs your muscles look small/flat and you get that stringy look... its an illusion.. if your protein intake is high your not losing muscle mass