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    steroids vs non-steroids?

    hey guys i have a dilemma that i hope you guys could help me out with. I am currently training to play collegiate football and have never taken any type of supplement besides just whey protein. I am looking to get an edge in size and strength but cant tell the difference between a steroid and not a steroid bwecause I want to start stacking some supplements but im real reluctant to start anything because I dont want to take any type of steroid to test positive by the NCAA. so basically im just trying to find out how i can tell what is a steroid and what isnt.

    also, i want to know what would be a good stack for an athlete trying to gain mass, strength while staying lean and looking good. lastly for my stack i cant take pills so only powder supplements would help i know that my limit me but any stack with powdered supplements would be such a great help.

    thanks guys for everything and i really appreciate all your help.

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    How did you get all the way to college without learning how to "google" something? Its called research, collegiate.

    Companies list all of their ingredients on the panels (hopefully ), and its your responsibility to check that against WADA/ NCAA banned substance list. Most companies won't make claims to yes or no because the banned list is constantly changing. Ask some of your bros on the team what they take. Easy enough.

    Adding mass will come to down nutrition. Calories in vs. calories out. Must have calorie surplus if you want to add mass, in conjunction with intense training. Spend some time in the nutrition section.

    A multivitamin (Orange Triad), and a fish oil (Orange Oximega) are good foundations to start. Whey protein can certainly help supplement protein intake so you hit your daily macros.

    You got some research to do! Hope this helps.

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    Steroids - act on steroid receptors
    Non-Steroids - Do not

    Cholesterol is a steroid - mind = blown
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    nevermind then obviously i just need to do it myself and see what i can and cant take. thanks for the help

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    Originally Posted by dtrain36 View Post
    nevermind then obviously i just need to do it myself and see what i can and cant take. thanks for the help
    Stick to the basics.

    Whey
    Creatine
    Beta Alanine
    Fish Oil
    Multi

    None are steroids, none will show up as steroids on tests. All very effective at giving you an "edge" in the gym and on the football field.

    All cheap and effective. PM if you need further advice
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    k thanks man ill defintiely pm you for further advice i appreciate it

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    Originally Posted by xStevenx View Post
    Stick to the basics.

    Whey
    Creatine
    Beta Alanine
    Fish Oil
    Multi

    None are steroids, none will show up as steroids on tests. All very effective at giving you an "edge" in the gym and on the football field.

    All cheap and effective. PM if you need further advice
    This.

    Add BCAA's to this list. Stick to the basics, man, and they will take you far
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    Steroid shrink your testes.

    Non-steroids shrink your wallet....



    Just kidding, they posted a great basic stack above, and I suggest the BCAA as well if you aren't perfect on the diet.

    You'll be able to spread out into different companies, and see what you like. A whole world of mystery supps awaits you. Try everything is what I say, and then you will know good , bad, and ugly.

    As far as an athlete though there are approved supplements for college athletes.
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    The main thing that you should watch out for are pre-workout supplements. That's where most of the banned substances are.

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    you dont need steroids

    if you are 20 yr old, then you dont need steroids at all, nor do any supplementation, if you work hard, you will consume hard, thats it,
    maintain healthy habits and work hard..

    steroids can damage, since you already have optimum level body, 20s is

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    Originally Posted by Kedi View Post
    The main thing that you should watch out for are pre-workout supplements. That's where most of the banned substances are.
    Ye just look for the non stim ones like Pump bol and ultima

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    now for my multi is there a difference between the pills and chewables? i know make fun of me all you want but i cant take pills so i wanna know if chewables would work for my multi

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    ye both the same so doesnt matter just make sure you take them

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    Lightbulb

    In plain words substances which require a doctor's prescription to buy them are steroids and the one which don't are not steroids but aka legal steroids. I was also confused in the start but there's a very good article outlining the different between both.
    Have a look ... **** it isn't allowing me to post links.

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    Originally Posted by dtrain36 View Post
    nevermind then obviously i just need to do it myself and see what i can and cant take. thanks for the help

    Talk to your Coach about which supplements are permitted. Different levels of college football/governing bodies may rule differently on things like creatine (which is not allowed in HS football where I am)

    As far as “stacking supplements “- getting a quality mass gainer/whey protein and buying better food is where you’ll make the biggest gains as a young man. Save your money for things that really work and make a difference! Eggs, oats, steaks, burgers, chicken, fish, pasta, potatoes, rice, fresh fruit and veggies….milk and yogurt, nuts and cheese too. You’ll be ahead in the game just by reason of a better diet!
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