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    1 week cut/2 week bulk cycle

    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found in your protein supplements and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals

    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.

    Thanks in advance,
    M.
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    Originally Posted by _BiG_M View Post
    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found [b]in your protein supplements[/b[ and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals


    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.

    Thanks in advance,
    M.
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    Originally Posted by _BiG_M View Post
    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found in your protein supplements and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals

    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.

    Thanks in advance,
    M.
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    Originally Posted by _BiG_M View Post
    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found in your protein supplements and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals

    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.


    Thanks in advance,
    M.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    interesting
    No, man.
    The term you're looking for is


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    ^^ I lol'd. And what is the point on doing this cycle OP. Either bulk or cut. Simple as that.


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    Originally Posted by mike201011 View Post
    ^^ I lol'd. And what is the point on doing this cycle OP. Either bulk or cut. Simple as that.


    See:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981
    That said, I still think shorter cut / bulk cycles (if you're into the concept at all) are where it's at. But not as short as the OP states.
    6 weeks bulking, 2 weeks cutting, moderate surplus and deficite (500 kcal), no transitory phase

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    Originally Posted by hankst View Post
    That said, I still think shorter cut / bulk cycles (if you're into the concept at all) are where it's at. But not as short as the OP states.
    6 weeks bulking, 2 weeks cutting, moderate surplus and deficite (500 kcal), no transitory phase

    (Layne Norton approved)
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    But why wouldn't a very short cycle like OP is suggesting work? I'm not saying it will, just asking. I've been thinking of doing something similar, just because I like to switch things up all the time
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    Thanks for the quick responses. Some have helped me.
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    i have heard of this cycle before however they primer is for 2 weeks and overload is for 6weeks
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    Originally Posted by _BiG_M View Post
    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found in your protein supplements and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals

    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.

    Thanks in advance,
    M.
    Your idea may work but the idea of bulking is to steadily progress in the gym and if you are taking a step back by cutting every two weeks than you may find that you are not gaining muscle as you want.

    There's no reason to avoid certain types of carbs but, at the same time, it's never a bad idea to eat plenty of veggies/fruit.

    Again, there's nothing wrong with eating the majority of you carbs around breakfast and the morning especially if your workout is around that time. But there's no reason to avoid carbs simply because of the numbers on a clock.
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    If there is no specific data as to why you shouldn't do short cycles then I think I'll try it soon. I just really like the idea of continually adding mass while regulating your bodyfat as you see fit, really.

    2 weeks lean bulk, 1 week cut for instance... I dunno why it would be a bad idea to do?
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    Sounds wizard as fuaark, umm wud 3 weeks bulking and 1-2 weeks cutting be a good idea, pls dont't feed me with your just bulk attitude, and give me a proper responce, thx.
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    Originally Posted by mjdalegend View Post
    Sounds wizard as fuaark, umm wud 3 weeks bulking and 1-2 weeks cutting be a good idea, pls dont't feed me with your just bulk attitude, and give me a proper responce, thx.
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    It seems to me that this will probably not be as effective as you hope OP, unfortunately if this worked well we would all do it and we would all know about it.

    Its an interesting concept, but i think longer cycles will be more useful. Realistically you should not gain all that much fat on a 6 week bulk unless you eat the worst crap.
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    It seems to me that this will probably not be as effective as you hope OP, unfortunately if this worked well we would all do it and we would all know about it.

    Its an interesting concept, but i think longer cycles will be more useful. Realistically you should not gain all that much fat on a 6 week bulk unless you eat the worst crap.
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    OP i think this is a great idea!!!
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Please learn to check thread dates and to spell correctly
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    It seems to me that this will probably not be as effective as you hope OP, unfortunately if this worked well we would all do it and we would all know about it.

    Its an interesting concept, but i think longer cycles will be more useful. Realistically you should not gain all that much fat on a 6 week bulk unless you eat the worst crap.
    I have the worst ****ing metabolism ever, so would shorter cylces just not cut it?
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    Hi,

    I'd like to hear different opinions on this subject.

    Cut week:
    10 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    50% protein
    25% carbohydrates
    25% fat

    For the Primer Phase you should avoid all simple and starchy carbohydrates.
    That means NO bread, cereal, pasta, rice, potatoes, fruit, sugar, etc. During this low
    calorie phase any carbohydrates you eat will come mainly from green vegetables
    and the trace amounts of carbs that are found in your protein supplements and
    any seasoning or condiments that you use on your food.

    bulk weeks:
    20 calories per pound of bodyweight daily
    30% protein
    50% carbohydrates
    20% fat

    For the Overload Phase you have a lot more freedom with your food choices and
    you can include all the typical high starchy carbohydrate foods. But strive to time your
    carbohydrates so that you consume the majority of them with your breakfast, pre and
    post workout meals

    I'm seeing this as a method to gain solid mass.

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    has anyone tried this?
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    Why make the cycles so long? Personally I cut 1 day then bulk the next 2 days. I've been thinking about moving to a per-hour system actually, I just need to consult my practitioner Dr. Seuss first.
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