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    Just a quick question: I'm trying to cut down a little bit here and I always have a protein shake before bed. Since I'm coming off of eating whatever I can get my hands on and trying to eat "right" I find myself a bit hungry before bed and I'm afraid of losing muscle mass. So, with that being said, I've been putting about 1/3 cup of raw oats in the shake (8-10 oz. milk and 1 scoop protein powder) to make it more filling. Are the carbs that the oats have going to hurt my goal of losing fat

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    Originally Posted by Brian MMA View Post
    Just a quick question: I'm trying to cut down a little bit here and I always have a protein shake before bed. Since I'm coming off of eating whatever I can get my hands on and trying to eat "right" I find myself a bit hungry before bed and I'm afraid of losing muscle mass. So, with that being said, I've been putting about 1/3 cup of raw oats in the shake (8-10 oz. milk and 1 scoop protein powder) to make it more filling. Are the carbs that the oats have going to hurt my goal of losing fat

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    Their is no "right" food. You want to lose weight and maintain muscle mass:

    Maintain reasonable consistent caloric deficit.
    Consume sufficient protein fat and carbohydrates daily.

    Protein 1-1.5g per LB of LBM
    Fat .45g+ per LB of Body weight
    Carbs will vary depending on the individual. Consume your minimum requirements for protein and fat first then feast on all the carbs you want with your left over calories. Myself as a example my carb intake varies from 100-200g per day when cutting.
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    Hey if your trying to cut down for summer its best to minimize carbs especially when your not going to be using them as immediate fuel.

    Its best to take casein protein before bed as it digest much slower(8hrs) than whey protein(2hrs), however whey is fine. Take a 2 tbsp of natural PB instead of the oats this will coat your stomach and keep that hunger away, it also slows digestion which is ideal before bed with protein!
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    Originally Posted by loudz View Post
    Hey if your trying to cut down for summer its best to minimize carbs especially when your not going to be using them as immediate fuel.

    Its best to take casein protein before bed as it digest much slower(8hrs) than whey protein(2hrs), however whey is fine. Take a 2 tbsp of natural PB instead of the oats this will coat your stomach and keep that hunger away, it also slows digestion which is ideal before bed with protein!
    also no milk, water. milk is for babies
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    Originally Posted by loudz View Post
    Hey if your trying to cut down for summer its best to minimize carbs especially when your not going to be using them as immediate fuel.

    Its best to take casein protein before bed as it digest much slower(8hrs) than whey protein(2hrs), however whey is fine. Take a 2 tbsp of natural PB instead of the oats this will coat your stomach and keep that hunger away, it also slows digestion which is ideal before bed with protein!

    also no milk, water. milk is for babies
    You know everything you just said is false broscience bullshyt right?
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    Originally Posted by Joseph1990 View Post
    You know everything you just said is false broscience bullshyt right?
    I especially enjoyed the PB coating your stomach and making you feel full part....
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    Originally Posted by RuckstaR View Post
    I especially enjoyed the PB coating your stomach and making you feel full part....
    This is wrong on so many levels...
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    Originally Posted by Brian MMA View Post
    Just a quick question: I'm trying to cut down a little bit here and I always have a protein shake before bed. Since I'm coming off of eating whatever I can get my hands on and trying to eat "right" I find myself a bit hungry before bed and I'm afraid of losing muscle mass. So, with that being said, I've been putting about 1/3 cup of raw oats in the shake (8-10 oz. milk and 1 scoop protein powder) to make it more filling. Are the carbs that the oats have going to hurt my goal of losing fat

    Thanks!
    You will lose muscle mass if your cut is too aggressive, if your daily protein intake is too low or if you don't train hard/heavy enough on your cut.

    The timing of your protein intake is a matter of supreme irrelevance. Consuming the protein before bed will affect you no differently than consuming the same protein drink in the morning. Same with the carbs & fat.

    The only real consideration for you is that you have got used to eating something before bed, so your hunger responses have been entrained to this pattern. If you cut out your late-evening snack, you are likely to be extra hungry, which may affect your sleep, which in turn will affect your recovery - something which is already affected by reducing calories.

    I'd suggest you keep it, but maybe cut down the oats / switch to skim milk to help reduce your total calories.
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    hey bros, fully aware, i'm just giving advice on whats worked for me.
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    Originally Posted by loudz View Post
    Hey if your trying to cut down for summer its best to minimize carbs especially when your not going to be using them as immediate fuel.

    Its best to take casein protein before bed as it digest much slower(8hrs) than whey protein(2hrs), however whey is fine. Take a 2 tbsp of natural PB instead of the oats this will coat your stomach and keep that hunger away, it also slows digestion which is ideal before bed with protein!
    Why is it better to take casein before bed rather than whey? Why is natural PB better than oats? So it coats your stomach and that prevents hunger and slows digestion?

    I don't get it. Someone educate me. I guess I need to read more because this is the first I've heard of this lol
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    casein is slower digesting than whey, therefore better to take before bed.

    As for my statements above there is no "scientific" proof, however through my clinical studies it has worked best for me, rarely do i find myself in the OPS situation because i hit my macros dead on each day.
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    Originally Posted by loudz View Post
    As for my statements above there is no "scientific" proof, however through my clinical studies.
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    Originally Posted by loudz View Post
    Hey if your trying to cut down for summer its best to minimize carbs especially when your not going to be using them as immediate fuel.

    Its best to take casein protein before bed as it digest much slower(8hrs) than whey protein(2hrs), however whey is fine. Take a 2 tbsp of natural PB instead of the oats this will coat your stomach and keep that hunger away, it also slows digestion which is ideal before bed with protein!
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    I have on before bed too. Hope its a good thing to do..
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    So it doesn't matter WHEN I eat the carbs, just as long as I'm staying within the allotted amount of them?

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    Originally Posted by Brian MMA View Post
    So it doesn't matter WHEN I eat the carbs, just as long as I'm staying within the allotted amount of them?

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    its all about what works for you.

    you have the amount of calories you need in a day, the grams of protein and fat you need.

    consume them when you feel like it.

    people think i'm weird because i have "breakfast" at 1130am (im a 9-5er) and "lunch" at around 4pm....

    whatever, it works for me.
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