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04-13-2011, 11:00 AM #31
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04-13-2011, 11:27 AM #32
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04-13-2011, 11:30 AM #33
The technologies are quite different. Each Freelap stopwatch has a built-in receiver, and the transmitters emit a magnetic field that triggers the stopwatch. Photocell timing systems are susceptible to timing the hands/arms rather than the body, and the times may vary depending on the position of the arm swing when crossing the finish line. Freelap recommends wearing the stopwatch on the sprint belt rather than the wrist for short sprints so that the location of the watch when crossing the finish is not affected by the arm swing.
The Freelap touch-and-release module has a very nice tactile feel. The rubberized button requires only modest force. The pressure pad on the speed trap is a bit stiff and is susceptible to false starts when adjusting body weight at the start.
Photocell timing systems are designed to time one athlete at a time. Freelap can time multiple athletes simultaneously by adding more equipment. On days we do speed workouts, I always run the athletes in pairs rather than individually, because they get a better workout when competing with someone in the lane next to them. I also like to time every sprint because I use that information to determine when the workout is done (athletes must complete each sprint within 5% of their best effort to ensure high-intensity quality sprints). With Freelap, I can run the athletes in pairs AND get a time for both athletes. On days I am training the relay team, I can time all four athletes simultaneously.
Best,
Christopher
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04-13-2011, 11:33 AM #34
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04-13-2011, 11:35 AM #35
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04-13-2011, 11:37 AM #36
Very interesting, still leaning toward the speed trap since it would be easier for quick mass timings with bigger sports teams in combine like situations and doesn't require the belt and stopwatch. The freelap certainly sounds like the better option for single and small group training sessions though.
Thanks for the info!
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04-14-2011, 12:16 AM #37
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04-14-2011, 12:23 AM #38
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I'm on a D1 team as a walkon CB at 5'11" 173 LB. running a 4.63 and I know a few of my teammates that run lower than 4.5-4.6 that are walkons as well. One is a 5'7" 155 LB. Wr that runs a 4.39, and another is a 6' 195 LB. CB that runs a 4.43. You'd be suprised how little speed has to do with getting a scholarship or getting onto a D1 team in general
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04-14-2011, 12:25 AM #39
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04-14-2011, 09:28 AM #40
I'm not doubting any of the times posted here, but you are right, many fast times that athletes think they ran are really just the slow reaction time of the person with the stopwatch as the athlete begins the run. I've used FAT (fully automatic time) for years so that athletes have an honest assessment of their performance. Equally important, athletes can see the affects of the strength training, speed workouts, plyos, and technique as their times improve week by week. Using an automatic timing system like Freelap, it is possible to measure improvements of several hundredths each week, and this information reinforces the athletes focus and determination.
Whether it's football or soccer or any running sport, the ability to beat your opponent by one or two tenths of a second is the difference between winning and losing. An accurate assessment of an athlete's ability and progress is a critical component of any speed training program.
Best,
Christopher
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04-14-2011, 09:36 AM #41
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04-14-2011, 12:54 PM #42
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04-14-2011, 05:14 PM #43
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03-09-2012, 07:55 PM #44
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03-09-2012, 08:26 PM #45
Remember that NFL receivers also have great quickness. Speed and quickness are two very different things. To excel at that level, you need the complete package. Size, strength, speed, quickness, and you need to be able to ball out.
I ran the 40 a year ago and ran it in 4.8. I was 17, 5'11 and 185lbs.
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03-09-2012, 09:12 PM #46
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03-09-2012, 10:33 PM #47
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03-10-2012, 04:49 PM #48
The majority of these response are misleading because odds are they are all talking about hand held time from people who arent the best timers and the exaggeration factor. 4.6 is a fast time. Go look at a high school recruiting site there are more kids listed on scout.com who run 4.3's then guys at the NFL many times over. All these high school kids listed on scout or similar sites have faster 40 times at their position than guys who run at the NFL combine. Why is that?
When i was a senior in high school i was routinely timed by my high school coach at a low 4.4, even as fast as 4.38. fast forward 4.5 years at my schools pro day after 4.5 years of being in high level S&C program, physically maturing and developing i ran between 4.58-4.63. Did i get that much slower, no i was faster and more explosive just my original time was crap, probably in the mid 4.8 range and even it that legit speed i was faster than most everyone i played against.
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03-10-2012, 05:21 PM #49
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03-10-2012, 06:13 PM #50
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03-10-2012, 06:17 PM #51
no, its th elack of ability to get a good hand timed speed. Anyone who knows anything about running knows that. When highly talented college recievers recieving world calss professional coaching cant approach the times of some second string high school WR, you just got to realize how inflated HS numbers are. They all probably squat over 400 lbs as well (with about a 4 inch ROM)
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03-10-2012, 06:18 PM #52
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03-10-2012, 06:27 PM #53
Not really. When you look at almost all world class sprinters they are all very thickly built and have very similar body types. So they have track teams in JUCO, what about high school the big meets at Penn, Nike Invitational etc. High school kids run internationally as well. With what you claim, which is world class speed you must have done outstanding in these track meets and dominated on the JUCO level
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03-10-2012, 06:34 PM #54
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03-10-2012, 06:35 PM #55
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03-10-2012, 06:47 PM #56
Ok you were a track star in high school then, plenty of football players ran track in high school and some in college. Yeah your built like Desean Jackson, again pointing to the elite .0001% and Jackson is more of a high 4.3-4.4 guy (he ran 4.35 at the combine). There is a link i used to have that showed Ben Johnsons spilts from 88 when he broke the WR. His 40 yard time if you covert it was something like 4.12 FAT time and Johnson had a great start.
You maybe fast, but your claiming special, world class speed which is most likely not the case.
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03-10-2012, 06:57 PM #57
i get what you saying that will forever be argued in track you have to react to the gun which takes about .1-.2 seconds Ben Johnson fast as hellbut put him in a combine 40 he will have something like 3.7-3.9 something outrageous my fat time would be a 4.4 something wen you do forty that dont require fat timing you suppose to add .26 or .23 seconds to your 40 i know about all this you talking abt
A MAN WITH NO IMAGINATION HAS NO WINGS- ALI
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03-10-2012, 07:04 PM #58
chris johnson 4.24 40 10.6 100m... didnt nobody have nothing to say about fat timing instead people had orgasm left to right my time was very accurate... i ran 4.2 consistently because i perfected my technique using what you mentioned a skips b skips high kness. i done did so much type of training over the last 4 years one day i be abl to show the world that im apart of that elite .0001% believe that. plyo, resisted speed training(sled,parachute,hill,etc) weighting weightlifting gone get me where i need to be
A MAN WITH NO IMAGINATION HAS NO WINGS- ALI
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03-10-2012, 09:04 PM #59
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03-11-2012, 11:12 AM #60
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