Phenorex

[AJP1]

Started this like the fact of taking one pill twice per day. I wondering as long as diet and training are in place will I see results or do I need to up the dose to 2 and 1 or possible 2 and 2....

[Massicio]

Started this like the fact of taking one pill twice per day. I wondering as long as diet and training are in place will I see results or do I need to up the dose to 2 and 1 or possible 2 and 2....

2 and 2 is what i did.. Not saying its the right way but I didnt really feel one pill all that much.

[AJP1]

Any results? What was diet and length of time taking it was like?

[mer-der-ah]

well, imo i started the first few days at 1/1 and i did notice a little effect. moved up to 2/2 and feel it's better - much more thermogenic and sweat my ass off doing cardio. can't really comment on full effectiveness since i'm not done my bottles, but have notices some leaning out so far (2 weeks in)

[AlecGaspari]

the full dosage of phenorex will be 2 capsules in the morning and then another 2 capsules 5-6 hours later

[AJP1]

Can I also incorporate size on max with phenorex to start a lean bulk or is that like taking a step in the wrong direction?

[AlecGaspari]

I love sizeon, and its my favorite product we make!

To diet with sizeon max, you need to adjust your carbohydrate intake for the day to account for the added carbs. You should be focusing most of your carbs around your workout already, so this is usually pretty easy to do.

In my opinion, dieting with sizeon is easier with it, then without it - I have consistent energy and endurance during my workouts, when normally I would be feeling lazy and tired due to the lack of carbs/calories.

[AJP1]

So I'm fine with size on max and the phenorex and just watching my carbs through out the day?

[lmnopotts]

Really depends on your carb goals. Do you want your carbs during a workout or do you want to save them for a meal? Can you stomach a lettuce burger every night or do you need the bun? If you're carb cutting then really the only time to get away with carbs guilt free is around a workout (pre-intra-post).

I started Phenorex on Monday and opted to hold off on my SizeOn... which sucks because I have like half a tub left! Right now intra workout is just some BCAAs and a scoop of creatine mono. Might start taking it again on my carb up days.

[AJP1]

There's also pre contest as well but I don't know how effective it will be any thoughts ? If I am cutting how many grams of carbs per day are recommended ?

[deserusan]

There's also pre contest as well but I don't know how effective it will be any thoughts ?

Pre-Contest is designed for carb restriction diets.

If I am cutting how many grams of carbs per day are recommended ?

http://www.scientificpsychic.com/health/cron1.html

[AJP1]

May sound crazy, think I'm going try the size on max with two phenorex tabs a day

[|ceman]

So I'm fine with size on max and the phenorex and just watching my carbs through out the day?

Losing weight is more of a function of total calories rather than a specific carb number. That said, once you have appropriate protein and healthy fat intake in your diet, the carb number is the easiest one to manipulate to stimulate fat loss. Track your intake and macro balance and then see how your body responds. If you are stagnating and can't lose more weight, then make some adjustments and drop carbs a bit week by week.

[AJP1]

Perfect advice, looks like size on max is the answer. I can get total performance from size on max and cut my calories in other areas

[AJP1]

I can almost roughly stay around the same weight but I want to make sure I'm cutting body fat

[dubcplaya069]

I have used both Size On Max Performance and Size On Pre Contest with Phenorex during my contest prep and saw great results with both. On low carb days I would use Pre Contest and on my carb up days I would use Max Performance.

[SEANxALLxDAY]

when i diet with sizeon max, i usually do like 10 min of cardio after lifting to even out the cals.

[AJP1]

Thanks for all the great advice I have went with size on max and will monitor calories mainily and will watch carbs slightly adding in 20 minutes of cardio with about 2500 Cals a day stacking with phenorex to do a lean clean bulk and lose some slight body fat

[AJP1]

Also to the people taking phenorex are you guys taking on an empty stomach then eating or just taking them

[lmnopotts]

I'll take 2 soon as I wake, then after eggs sizzle the plates are going into the dishwasher 30 minutes later. pre/post workout shakes, then lunch at noon, and another 2 at 1pm or 2pm.

[AlecGaspari]

Also to the people taking phenorex are you guys taking on an empty stomach then eating or just taking them

I dosed two capsules immediately upon waking (roughly 9am for me) and then another dose around 2-3pm

i would go to sleep around 1am

[AJP1]

Are u taking with food or before food?

[AJP1]

Tried size on tonight and let's just say it's no freaking joke

[mer-der-ah]

I dosed two capsules immediately upon waking (roughly 9am for me) and then another dose around 2-3pm

i would go to sleep around 1am

i do this as well, but imo the stim side isn't overwhelming. any reason not to go over 4 caps a day?

[deserusan]

i do this as well, but imo the stim side isn't overwhelming. any reason not to go over 4 caps a day?

not really.

[mer-der-ah]

not really.

cool, i'll give 5 caps a day a shot then. works real well so far

[AJP1]

Noticed on this Phenorex my appetite seems to increase....

[deserusan]

Noticed on this Phenorex my appetite seems to increase....

...did you just start taking SizeOn too?

[AJP1]

Yea, lean mass