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    Stronges military/army ever to grace the earth

    strongest militaries that have ever graced the planet. i mean strongest as in battlefield effectiveness, not strictly by population, ie modern chinese army, even tho this does have an effect.

    1. German Wehrmacht (1939-1945)
    2. Soviet Red Army (1943-1980s)
    3. US/british armies of today
    4. Imperial Japan
    5. Chinese army of today

    opinions. what do you guys think and why?
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    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.
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    If we're talking relative to the rest of the world at that time period, then the Roman armies make a strong case.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.
    America dealt with a Germany military fighting on five fronts with serious raw material and man power shortages.
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    Zulus should be up there. srs. One of the fiercest armies ever.
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    This man begs to differ with your absolutely horrible list.
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    Originally Posted by Seldini View Post
    If we're talking relative to the rest of the world at that time period, then the Roman armies make a strong case.
    This.

    I don't know how you would decide this one. Modern armies (besides Hitler) are not out conquering. The British and US armies of today get **** on by rules of engagement.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.

    You should read some real history books, not American movies. America is the strongest army right now, but that's not hard when you're spending 680 billion a year. Wehrmacht and the Red Army were the armies of WW2. Americans were a big part of the win but they were not stronger than the Germany/Soviet armies

    Strongest armies are in no order

    WW2 German and Red Army
    Roman Army
    United States Army today
    Alexander's Army
    Mongol Army
    Prussian Army
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    This is a stupid topic. It all depends on funding, training and technology. Fundamentally, all men are more or less equaliy capable. So comparing the US Forces with a bunch of Arghans is not really a fair comparison.

    BRB US has 500 Billion dollar annual budget for the Forces.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.
    dont think so? the US, british armies and french partizans only faced 20% of what was left of the german wehrmacht the other 80% was on the eastern front, yet the allies still struggled on the west. ever heard the battle of the buldge? US forces lost more troops than any other battle in history, against a weakend exhausted german divisons who had no air support, was low on fuel and ammo and still holded US forces down for a long time. the German army of WW2 was alot stronger than the US of that time
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    Originally Posted by asharma12 View Post
    You should read some real history books, not American movies. America is the strongest army right now, but that's not hard when you're spending 680 billion a year. Wehrmacht and the Red Army were the armies of WW2. Americans were a big part of the win but they were not stronger than the Germany/Soviet armies
    America jump started it's weak and unprepared military to quickly enter WWII, Germany was spending big money on their military, also.

    And what part do you not understand where Americans consistently matched up/out fought against the Germans? And that was while the Marines were busy defeating the all mighty Imperial Japan Army OP seems to think highly of, if the Marines were in Germany also, it would've been a wrap. Germans got whooped in WWI by the Marines, hence the nickname Devildogs.

    OP if you're going to make up scenarios to justify your pathetic list, so shall I, you see, what happened, happened. The Allies won with America in the spotlight. Deal with it.
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.

    They fought under strength, tired, ad hoc divisions of german troops looking to fight on any front other than the eastern.
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    USA military today, is the strongest ever! (USMC fo life nigguhs lol)
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    Too many variables to make a good list IMO, comparing today's army (with the gap in technology and training) and older ones that relied heavily on strategy and didn't have air support and stuff is hard.

    Also definitely need to account the strength of these armies in their respective times
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    Germany was stretched too thin. A war on three fronts (Eastern, Western, and North Africa [debatable as a 3rd front]) was just too much.

    If Germany had actually focused on one front and didn't dun goof by initiating Operation Barbarossa, the outcome of World War 2 could have very well been different.

    Outcome of WW2 could very well be different if Rommel got what he wanted in North Africa so he could have taken Tobruk a lot earlier and actually capture El Alamein. From there he would have cut through Egypt and reached Iraq's oil, where he would gone north towards the Caucasus Mountains and be knocking on the USSR's foot.
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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    America dealt with a Germany military fighting on five fronts with serious raw material and man power shortages.
    so the US fought on five fronts? more like two on the oppisite side of the world. whereas germany fought almost the whole globe
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    Americans consistently matched up against/out fought the Germans in WWI&II.

    Oh u mad America has the most powerful military in Human history? Deal with it.
    lmao idiot learn some history, when U.S joined the war they didnt even send troops to Europe at first because they knew they would get destroyed. They joined the war Dec 1941 and D-Day was June 1944. And by then they were fighting a weakened German army who was already getting raped on the eastern front
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    Originally Posted by kratosbrah View Post
    America jump started it's weak and unprepared military to quickly enter WWII, Germany was spending big money on their military, also.

    And what part do you not understand where Americans consistently matched up/out fought against the Germans? And that was while the Marines were busy defeating the all mighty Imperial Japan Army OP seems to think highly of, if the Marines were in Germany also, it would've been a wrap. Germans got whooped in WWI by the Marines, hence the nickname Devildogs.

    OP if you're going to make up scenarios to justify your pathetic list, so shall I, you see, what happened, happened. The Allies, won with America in the spotlight. Deal with it.
    The American's didn't outfight the Germans. The Germans had most of their army on the Eastern Front, and still beat the Americans in many battles. They were also fighting in Western Europe, Eastern Europe, and Northern Africa.
    The Marines fighting the IJN have nothing to do with the war in Europe, Marines do not fight armies, Germany did not get beat by the US Navy in WW1.
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    lmao idiot learn some history, when U.S joined the war they didnt even send troops to Europe at first because they knew they would get destroyed. They joined the war Dec 1941 and D-Day was June 1944. And by then they were fighting a weakened German army who was already getting raped on the eastern front
    derp derp derpy derp

    The U.S. didn't enter the war early because Americans didn't ****ing want to, Roosevelt had to convince the populace, after Pearl Harbor they entered.

    They were attacked at Pearl Harbor, by gasp... THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE. DURRRR why the **** would they have sent troops to Europe when JAPAN attacked them?
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    Buncha Captain Hindsights ITT.

    And lol at calling the soviet army one of the strongest ever.
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    I'd say the crusader armies were up there.

    Doesn't really count as a nations army but man did they butt heads. Large scale warfare with a heavy motivator slamming headlong into the largest defensive structures if all time and still coming away victorious.

    For sheer battlefield effectiveness, size and professionalism you can't go past the Romans. It wasn't until rome was significantly weakened from within that anything could hold a candle to it. A fighting machine in every sense, if you beat them, they come back harder and with more men until you were wiped out.

    Macedonians, mongols, I could go on and on.

    America, no. What makes the leading armies of today so strong are superior air, naval and artillery support. You can't really add any modern army to this discussion unless your able to compare it in an all out conventional war where the full strength of both sides is in the fight.
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    Originally Posted by davaf View Post
    so the US fought on five fronts? more like two on the oppisite side of the world. whereas germany fought almost the whole globe
    Many say the five fronts were:

    1. Western
    2. Eastern
    3. Italian
    4. Air battle over German homeland
    5. Naval warfare in the Atlantic
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    Originally Posted by randombrah102 View Post
    lmao idiot learn some history, when U.S joined the war they didnt even send troops to Europe at first because they knew they would get destroyed. They joined the war Dec 1941 and D-Day was June 1944. And by then they were fighting a weakened German army who was already getting raped on the eastern front
    North Africa and Italy never happened apparently. Neither did the entire pacific theater...
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    No army was capable of handling the Wermarcht in WWII. Pls ****ing go with these comparisons.

    The West faced 1/3rd of the Germans and they still held them back even though they lost air control, while 2/3rds of their forces were brutally fighting on the Eastern Front with the only thing stopping them was the soulless winter of Russia.

    However, this thread is absolutely stupid. How can you gauge the ability of an army under Alexander or Genghis Khan? Even Atilla? Do you know how many amazing armies there have been in the past?

    Strong historical ignorance while bringing in the armies of today to round out the list.
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    ITT everybody mad as hell the US marines are the greatest ****ing military power to ever exist



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    Dear Frederick, thank you for your nice letter, but I am actually a US Marine who was born to kill, whereas clearly you seem to have mistaken me for some sort of wine sipping, communist dick suck. And although peace probably appeals to tree hugging bi-sexuals like you and your parents, I happen to be a death-dealing, blood-crazed warrior who wakes up every day just hoping for the chance to dismember my enemies and defile their civilizations.
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