Are they both co-related? As in having a high grip strength means u will be able to wrist curl more aswell, and vice-versa?
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03-29-2011, 03:24 AM #4
To me, grip strength is at least part neurological in that on any given day i could be at my best one day, a little off another day. if I am weak or strong the first clue I have to it is how the weight feels in my grip when I pick it up. I can feel if I am strong that day or not by how the 475 feels in my grip.
In surgery one of the main tests we use when the patient is waking up as to whether he is strong enough to maintain his airway is we ask the patient to squeeze our hand, thus we assess the patients neuro status by their grip srength or lack there of.
For weight lifting the reason your strength would fluctuate is your hormone/neurotransmitter/androgen levels flutuate from day to day. Depending on what kind of supplaments you are taking, that is. Also if you are rested enough or overtrained your strength will fluctuate. one way i guage how strong I am is I can tell by my grip when i pick up the weight. If the weight feels real heavy in my grip, I know things are not going to go my way that day.
03-29-2011, 02:25 PM #5
03-29-2011, 02:58 PM #6
grip strength vs wrist curl strength.
I have rack pulled six plates(260 kilos) several times recently sans straps. I have been doing heavy grip work on my grip machine. That hammers the finger flexors. And I have been doing band extensions to hit the finger extensors for balance.
But I have been neglecting my wrist curls(wrist flexors) and reverse wrist curls(wrist extensors).
The result is that my wrists have gotten much weaker, enough to affect my power cleans, push presses etc.
If you want strong wrists, finger flexor work will do nothing for them.
If you want strong hands, wrist flexor work will do nothing for them.
Be specific in training grip and wrist strength.Beginners:
Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)
Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
03-29-2011, 03:00 PM #7"Though the concept is not scientifically validated in detail (it should be considered as a hypothesis rather than a scientific theory), it is useful from a practical standpoint. When training athletes, it is impossible to wait until scientific research provides all of the necessary knowledge." Vladmir M. Zatsiorsky, Ph.D.
03-29-2011, 03:09 PM #8
I am going to say that they don't have as much to do with each other as you might think. Anyone that really gets into grip work will tell you that just grabbing onto a bar is only one aspect of how your hand works, and may not be a good indicator of other forms of grip (open hand, crushing, etc). You get a little bit of carry over, maybe, but as JGrey put it, you have to train with some specificity to really get anywhere.
While the same musculature is used, the motor pattern is different, and that motor pattern is what really determines how strong you are at a specific movement. IE, can you get all the muscles involved to do their jobs in the right order in the right balance.GoRuck Challenge Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150446113
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03-29-2011, 03:19 PM #9
I'm actually the exact opposite, my wrists are greatly disproportionately stronger than everything else, but my fingers suck. Yesterday my routine looked like:
1x50 20kg (per hand) wrist curls, fast, also as a warm up.
1x50 31kg wrist curls.
1x50 25kg wrist curls.
And yet, when it comes to finger strength, I'm only just barely above average in strength, because I neglect it.A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or dies.
03-29-2011, 03:45 PM #10
fair enough, i guess i have never separated the 2 to see the difference before."Though the concept is not scientifically validated in detail (it should be considered as a hypothesis rather than a scientific theory), it is useful from a practical standpoint. When training athletes, it is impossible to wait until scientific research provides all of the necessary knowledge." Vladmir M. Zatsiorsky, Ph.D.
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