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    Those of you that workout 6/7 days a week do you do carb up sooner?

    I workout Sun-Thurs and do depeletion Fri morning. I eat carbs in a 12 hour window at 3500 or less cals with 40 or less grams of fat. Im cutting on 2100 cals.

    Those of you that carb up on 7th day or do friday nite-sat nite carbs is it the same thing?
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    guess what. I don't do carbups.

    And I feel much better since i've stopped doing them

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    Originally Posted by insomniac0 View Post
    guess what. I don't do carbups.

    And I feel much better since i've stopped doing them

    I train 6 times / wk
    true dat. no carb ups for me either.

    not really sure why almost everyone who does keto includes it in their routine... unless you're an athlete, bodybuilder, or you do heavy weight-training or hiit, it is kinda pointless.

    don't get me wrong.. refeeds are definitely useful for certain things though..

    i suspect that huge "step by step keto plan" thread that has like 500,000 views is the reason. oh well. watcha gon' do
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    Originally Posted by shadowwalker021 View Post
    true dat. no carb ups for me either.

    not really sure why almost everyone who does keto includes it in their routine... unless you're an athlete, bodybuilder, or you do heavy weight-training or hiit, it is kinda pointless.

    don't get me wrong.. refeeds are definitely useful for certain things though..

    i suspect that huge "step by step keto plan" thread that has like 500,000 views is the reason. oh well. watcha gon' do
    Most of the people on bb are one of those..
    Most people on here do hitt or lift heavy..
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    i feel like not carbing up at times, i w/o 4 to 5 times a week, but i love oatmeal and pizza, so i carb up. i think i may stop carb up soon though
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    The carb up helps reset your hormones (leptin mainly) so its useful for that and I always found it kept the weight coming down each week.

    I could have gone keto for another week but i craved carbs and was always glad for the carb up for the psychological break as well as the physiological effects.
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    Originally Posted by WestAfrica View Post
    I workout Sun-Thurs and do depeletion Fri morning. I eat carbs in a 12 hour window at 3500 or less cals with 40 or less grams of fat. Im cutting on 2100 cals.

    Those of you that carb up on 7th day or do friday nite-sat nite carbs is it the same thing?
    carb ups are used for restoring glycogen levels, which are used at 65% VO2 MAX. if you are working out very intensely during teh week ,you do not need much of one. i workout an hour a day for 5 times a week and need only 30g carbs a day to keep my glycogen levels up. I am also doing a TKD. if i was doing a CKD. i would prolly stick to arond only 150g for that day. and i would only do that if i felt fatigued from working out.

    don't carb up if you feel great.
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    Originally Posted by shadowwalker021 View Post
    true dat. no carb ups for me either.

    not really sure why almost everyone who does keto includes it in their routine... unless you're an athlete, bodybuilder, or you do heavy weight-training or hiit, it is kinda pointless.

    don't get me wrong.. refeeds are definitely useful for certain things though..

    i suspect that huge "step by step keto plan" thread that has like 500,000 views is the reason. oh well. watcha gon' do
    ^^ exactly

    only reason we used carbs on this diet is for glycogen synthesis. i did a little of a write up on this on a thread i just created. i did it during work so i hope it makes sense lol
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    i workout 7 days a week, on 2200 cals including supplements, carb up for about 12 hours once per week on as much junk food as i can fit in my face, and i am still leaning out, the refeed gets me through the week physically, mentally, socially.

    i love this diet and dont feel like i miss out on anything by eating this way.

    and i feel awesome.
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    i train 6-7 times a week doing mostly HIIT. I carbup for over 24 hours, dont really pay attention to macros on carbup anymore - I go WAY over on fats but dont seem to put on any bodyfat - purely use it to raise leptin and fill glycogen. Its also a reward for a tough week of training.

    In addition i also do a pretty intense session for depletion and the first seshion after carbup - feel like because of the calorie hike im getting muscle growth as well.
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    Depending on your needs, you may not necessarily need a carb-up. I personally do a carb-up when I need it. When progession starts to slow and energy levels are affecting my workout, then I would probably do a carb-up then. Some people like the feeling on keto, I feel sort of "wired," more focus, alert, and my mind is clearer. I guess you should try out not carbing up and see how your training and progres goes. Pay close attention to all details. Quantify your results, best of luck dude!
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    I really do not want to lose any muscle during my time on keto. Will having a carb up versus not having a carb up affect this?

    I guess what im asking is will having a carb up day improve my performance lifting in the gym? Thanks.
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    I really do not want to lose any muscle during my time on keto. Will having a carb up versus not having a carb up affect this?

    I guess what im asking is will having a carb up day improve my performance lifting in the gym? Thanks.

    you will have to try it for yourself really, no one here can tell you anything other than their own experience

    that said, i have found that if eating around maintenance on keto there is basically zero impact on my lifting and have no need to eat carbs in order to work out hard, i just carb up because i like to

    when eating low calories, the carb up refreshes me after a week of cutting, helps to have a good workout the next few days, but for me the carbs are basically depleted a few days after the carb up anyway, the last few workouts before the next refeed will always be 'depleted' and they still go fine

    when dieting at a deficit you can get worn out and an 'up' day helps. thing is, i dont think on keto you need to have a refeed of carbs necessarily. i used to do a higher calorie day of keto food during the week and felt great from that too

    could always just have a maintenance or slightly above day of the same keto food and potentially avoid putting back some of the fat you lost during the week, just an idea if youre looking for options...

    i say do the first two weeks no carbs and see how it goes. if everything is working, maybe just stick with no carbs

    but really, a day each week to be able to go out for food with friends etc will make it easy to stick to this diet for months and months, and that is the main reason (in my opinion) that people have success with keto, you can be happy while youre on it, so you can stay on it long enough to get the results

    12 weeks is a pretty long time...
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    My observation:

    If you're fat as ****, DON'T CARB-UP IF YOU'RE TRYIN TO LOSE WEIGHT.

    If you have an 8 pack, look like everyone who posted in this thread, they seem to be able to pig out more on carb-ups and get away with it.

    The science behind it, not sure. But I know a few fat guys including myself who just went balls to the walls on their first carbup, and it was devastating.

    Now you guys who look like chuck norris going out and eating tubs of ice cream and boxes of pizza and nothing happens.

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    Originally Posted by tradertrader View Post
    you will have to try it for yourself really, no one here can tell you anything other than their own experience

    that said, i have found that if eating around maintenance on keto there is basically zero impact on my lifting and have no need to eat carbs in order to work out hard, i just carb up because i like to

    when eating low calories, the carb up refreshes me after a week of cutting, helps to have a good workout the next few days, but for me the carbs are basically depleted a few days after the carb up anyway, the last few workouts before the next refeed will always be 'depleted' and they still go fine

    when dieting at a deficit you can get worn out and an 'up' day helps. thing is, i dont think on keto you need to have a refeed of carbs necessarily. i used to do a higher calorie day of keto food during the week and felt great from that too

    could always just have a maintenance or slightly above day of the same keto food and potentially avoid putting back some of the fat you lost during the week, just an idea if youre looking for options...

    i say do the first two weeks no carbs and see how it goes. if everything is working, maybe just stick with no carbs

    but really, a day each week to be able to go out for food with friends etc will make it easy to stick to this diet for months and months, and that is the main reason (in my opinion) that people have success with keto, you can be happy while youre on it, so you can stay on it long enough to get the results

    12 weeks is a pretty long time...
    Thanks man. I think i'll carb up 2 and a half weeks into keto for that boost. I only plan on going about 6 weeks on the diet, then clean bulk. Hopefully i will only need 1-2 carb ups. BTW, repped.
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    Originally Posted by bazurkk View Post
    Thanks man. I think i'll carb up 2 and a half weeks into keto for that boost. I only plan on going about 6 weeks on the diet, then clean bulk. Hopefully i will only need 1-2 carb ups. BTW, repped.
    sounds like a solid plan, i would also say: don't worry about the scales too much, especially day to day, because your water weight is going to be all over the place

    also: a lot of people (i am one) seem to notice that fat loss isnt steady, it comes in bursts, so stick with it, if you are disciplined and kick some ass in the gym, 6 weeks should be enough to see good changes

    good luck man! let us know you get on, the keto forum has a lot of good members posting who can help you out if you get stuck...
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