Hey - I just received and assembled the Body Solid SFID325 bench. I took some pics and as there isn't alot of info around here on this bench I thought I would post them.
My overall impressions:
- overall fit and finish is very good / sturdy / strong
- ladder support is much beefier than the BodyCraft f602
- easy to adjust
- fairly heavy (heavier than the BodyCraft f602)
- very firm padding (I like this)
- quite narrow compared to BC f602 and previous Impex POS
- full upright position is much closer to 90 degrees than either of my other benches
- larger wheels than f602 - rolls very smoothly
- grab handle is really nice
- ships in a large / heavy box - mostly assembled - just add seat pads and leg assembly
- comes with cheap stamped metal wrench tools for assembly (these are POS - used my own wrenches)
- very basic assembly manual - mostly a blown up diagram and a few photocopied pages with numbered steps - but not really needed - like I said almost fully assembled out of the box.
Anyway here are the pics.
Thread: Another BodySolid SFID325 Review
03-25-2011, 03:58 PM #1
Another BodySolid SFID325 Review
Last edited by scooter9988; 03-25-2011 at 04:07 PM.
03-25-2011, 03:59 PM #2
03-25-2011, 04:00 PM #3
Compared to BodyCraft f602
After waiting for over 2 months for a nice bench to come up for sale on Kijiji / Craigs I gave up and ordered the SFID325. 3 days after it was shipped out I came across a mint BodyCraft f602 - picked that up for $75 so I had the opportunity to compare both side by side.
Overall the SFID325 is made of higher quality materials and is heavier yet slightly narrower and more "elegant" then the f602. For now I will be keeping both and may dedicate the f602 to dumbbell work while the SFID325 will probably live in my Body Craft f430 rack.
Last edited by scooter9988; 03-25-2011 at 04:06 PM.
03-26-2011, 05:06 AM #4
03-26-2011, 07:11 AM #5
Good write-up. (Repped.)
I found your photos of the seat upholstery compelling. Here they are, inline, for easy comparison:
I am struck by how much cleaner the BodySolid seat looks. It appears to me that the upholstery for the top of the seat is a separate piece and that it is sewn to the portion that goes around the seat padding. And, the way the BodySolid upholstery and padding is attached to the seat base is superior as well. Better workmanship and better quality, IMO.
03-26-2011, 07:23 AM #6
I think these benches are good comparisons. The 602 looks like the 320, except it doesn't have the sliding seat and the legs seem to stick out quite a bit. If it is the same, I can definitely understand why you like the BS better. I don't mind the 320, its not a bad bench, but the difference in quality between the benches is visible in your pics (the 320 pads look just like the ones on the 602). It also seems like the single post in the front is superior to the big legs coming out into the way.
Bodycraft should step up their game. From what I can see I'd recommend the BS over the 602 based solely on your pics.
Now to the OP or grumpy.... how does this stack up compared to a commercial bench? I don't expect it to be of that quality, I'm just curious. A good commercial bench just doesn't move hardly at all when you're using it. While I doubt the 602 is that good, it does give a commercial vibe off, imo. Just wondering how much that translates into how it feels when you're using it.▪█─────█▪ Equipment Crew #4 ▪█─────█▪
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03-26-2011, 10:17 AM #7
03-26-2011, 03:17 PM #8
I have only had one workout using this bench and so far it's definitely a keeper. It is really very solid and heavy for its size.
Keetman: I'm not sure what defines gym quality but I totally agree with grumpytude - this a a heavy duty piece of gear! I've also got the Bodycraft PL1000 lever gym which has pretty much the same bench as the F320 and yep the F602 and F320 bench construction is about the same. Not that it is bad - just a step down from this BS SFID325 - which I will agree with you on definitely gives off a "commercial vibe".
- the stitching is better
- the upholstery material is higher quality
- the wheels are bigger
- the steel is THICK and HEAVY! much thicker than the BodyCraft
- the weld quality is higher
- I like the smaller front leg as opposed to the large feet alot!
- the ladder adjustment handles are bigger / metal not small and plastic and are on both sides of the bench.
- there is a roller on the ladder support ie: you can just lift the seat and the ladder moves up and drops into the next notch - on the BC you need to put the arm into the slot manually.
- that front handle is really nice - on the Bodycraft you need to grab the foam rollers or ? to move the bench - on the SFID325 it is an easy one handed maneuver!
Overall I like this bench A LOT! In fact the overall experience with this bench has me considering the BodySolid Pro Club-Line Multi Squat Rack (SMR1000). I've been looking into a heavier duty rack for a while and based on my experience with this bench (from the same BodySolid series) I am now seriously considering that option. Of course it also helps that it is available up here in Canada as well ;-)
03-26-2011, 03:28 PM #9
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03-26-2011, 05:11 PM #10
Looks like a real nice bench for the money paid. And not to take away from the bench, but
from these pics and I remember from reading grumpytude's review, it appears the bench
only really allows Flat/Incline. The decline position without any leg support seems to be
unusable. Is that a correct statement ? This design choice might have something to do
with how the bench presents itself, being smaller, or appearing more elegant. It's apparent
the quality of materials is higher but the functionality seems a bit sacrifised.
03-26-2011, 05:51 PM #11
03-26-2011, 05:56 PM #12
03-26-2011, 06:54 PM #13
I am set to upgrade to a new rack next week and will be selling my F430 if it all goes as planned (I also have a buyer lined up). I just took the route of getting it and asking for forgiveness later. I'd have been more upset to have let the rack go than to argue with her for a bit . She actually took it "okay", at least as best as can be expected. She just doesn't care about the gym as much as I do, which is fine.
On the answers to the questions I had..... as far as a commercial bench is concerned, anybody can put that on their product. I have had my hands on a couple of true benches that could be considered "commercial" and believe me there is no comparison. The one I have now..."hoist" is one of those and is just unbelievable. Its rock solid when I'm on it.....almost as though its bolted down. Hard to explain unless you've seen or used one.
I wouldn't expect the 602 to necessarily stack up to those types of benches and that wasn't the point of my inquiry. It just had a nice look to it that at least gave the impression of "commercial". I was just curious as to how it translates, but honestly, I guess I'd have to use one for a bit to know for sure.
It really does seem like a nice bench. I'm not sure why they even bothered with the decline though. They should've either put leg holds on it, or probably even better...just put a longer support at the underside of the head so it was even sturdier in the flat position and couldn't even have gone into decline. I'm also curious about the space between the pads.
Those are really the only things I see that give me any pause. Looks like a nice piece of equipment.▪█─────█▪ Equipment Crew #4 ▪█─────█▪
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03-26-2011, 07:25 PM #14
As far as the pad spacing goes - I have been able to make it work fairly well so far - I am 6' even and my butt seems to end up on the seat pad while the small of my back arches over the crack alright.... of course a smaller gap would always be better but so far it seems to work for me.
There are definitely better benches out there - no question - but I don't think there are many that will compete for the price of the SFID325... and around here (Canada) there really isn't much competition at that price point (IMO). Companies do seem to like to throw around terms like commercial and professional even when products don't warrant it.
12-27-2012, 05:40 PM #15
12-28-2012, 07:57 AM #16
12-28-2012, 08:17 AM #17
Haven't noticed OP around much lately, but I have the GFID 71 and the biggest difference to consider is the ability to use accessories. There is not a receiver on this bench like on the gfid 31 and 71. Also the gfid 71 has a similar ladder style adjustment for the backrest, but the seat adjustment is a pop pin style (similar to the bodycraft bench above referenced). The pop pin allows for more angles to choose from at the seat, but in all reality I'm sure you could get by with three or four settings. Being where I am and having the equipment I have now, I would choose the fid 325 over the fid 71. Some people absolutely love using accessories with their benches (preacher curl, leg developers, etc.), but at this point I have enough other options that I really don't use this feature enough to justify it.
12-29-2012, 03:09 AM #18
12-29-2012, 06:02 AM #19
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I currently have a model based on the body-craft and it's okay but I'm looking a the body solid.
I'm glad that it's sturdy as I have used a few and even some 'commercial' items aren't as steady as I'd like.
I understand from a design point of view that it's hard to make a bench 100% stable with so many moving parts.
Thanks again for the review, I'm glad to know it's a nice bench, it really does look the part.
05-25-2013, 08:07 PM #20
GREAT review and even better pictures. Phenomenal pictures.
In the quest for "MY perfect" bench, I started considering this one again even though the seat is narrow and I'm use to a wide one.
What surprises me - greatly... Is that according to the pictures the seat part of the bench is only attached to the frame with TWO screws.
I really have to see it in person but I don't know how any company could claim commercial quality on a bench rated (tested) to 1000 #, but only have two screws holding the seat to the seat plate. Since the seat is wider than the plate, any forces on the outside edge of the seat that are not balanced, of course is putting tension stresses on that joint.
Tried to see one of these in person today, but the store I went to decided to have a special holiday closure on Saturday (when they'd normally be open)
Other than that, it does look well constructed. I personally prefer the bolted on catch "teeth" to hold the incline positions, instead of the welded ones like the SFID325. (Hoist models are bolted - easier to inspect bolts for wear than to determine when a weld might fail)
05-25-2013, 09:06 PM #21
http://www.bodysolid.com/Home/GFI21/..._Incline_Bench This is a much better bench construction wise (though it doesnot decline) and is 17" high (Olympic bench height) however even this bench's pad is not 11" or 12" (It is hard to find one) If you need a bench for life get something from someone like EliteFTS who make benches according to Olympic standards (17" high, pad 12" wide etc) Those guys know their **** and their equipment screams of their expertise.
05-25-2013, 09:09 PM #22
I decided years ago that I would never be happy with the ladder type catches for benches. they all have the same problem and there is no way around it for that type of mechanism. the support meets the backpad too far toward the base (very close to where the backpad is already stabilized by the hinge) rather than near the top (where no movement would be allowed at all). the only remedy would be to make the frame ridiculously long and unusable. this is why the ladder type benches never feel "commercial" quality to me."ive made the most impressive gains when i spent months with the heavy dumbbells and left the power rack cowering in the corner like the b**ch that it is"-anonymous
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05-25-2013, 09:15 PM #23
05-26-2013, 02:14 AM #24
It's a good observation, and brackets + bolting closer to the seat edges would look nicer. Like this:
Still, it really should not be an issue (I think...). The tube profile is quite wide, which distributes the stresses, and the bolts as such will handle loads a hundred times greater than anything they will ever be subjected to. The most critical area would be the threaded metal insert in the wood plate (I presume it's wood) at the bottom of the seat. This would depend on the type (ply, chip, osb, mdf) and thickness of the wood, as well as the type of insert (hurricane, T, barbed, outside thread, et.al.).
Looking at the overall design of the bench, I think it is safe to assume (at least probable, and certainly possible) that they will have done the insert bit properly though.
To summarise: two bolts could be fully sufficient.
Just look at how really critical stuff, that experiences real stresses, is bolted together - like your car front suspension, or the wing assembly of a Learjet, which is held to the fuselage with six little bolts (whereof two are redundant, for extra safety).
05-26-2013, 02:30 AM #25
Time to speak out in defense and favour of the "ladder type" bench!
IMO, the ladder type is the most pusposeful solution for an adjustable bench. It is simple, quick and easy to adjust as well as strong and safe.
It is true that the support would be subjected quite some load when the bench is in the flat position, which in turn would introduce bending/buckling stress on the support. This can however easily be remedied with an added support for the flat position. All good ladder type benches have such a support:
The Elite FTS 0-90, aka Williams Strength Signature 0-90
The Pendlay Elite 0-90
The Barbarian Warrior Bench
WS Signature - 0-90 Bench2.jpg
WS Signature - 0-90 Bench1.jpg
Pendlay Elite 0-90 Adjustable Bench2.jpg
Pendlay Elite 0-90 Adjustable Bench1.jpg
05-26-2013, 04:50 AM #26
I think my ideal bench is the Legend 4-way. It doesn't seem to carry a weight rating, and I'm not in love with the semi circle back design - as others here said, having the support so far forward...
But I like the wide front seat that I am use to now - and the leg bracing can apparently be removed. (Unlike a good part of it with a Hoist 4165)
PS. This 50 post limit thing is getting beyond ridiculous.
05-26-2013, 04:55 AM #27
05-26-2013, 05:04 AM #28
1) 4165 has it's seat pretty "far back", with the front support, and leg brace in the way... (As you approach the bench holding weight, it looks like you have to "back in" from nearly 2 feet away so you don't trip)
2) The 3165 you can only buy from your local dealer, who is 2.5 hours away, and with tax + delivery, it's just getting to the point where it is too expensive. Plus I'm not sure I'm in love with the dealer I'd be forced to buy from anyway.
05-26-2013, 05:54 AM #29
05-26-2013, 06:38 AM #30
And maybe I do end up with something like a Legend 3-way.
But I really would like something that ships UPS so I don't have to deal with a freight truck on my street, delivering a pallet.
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