I have a conspicarcy theory that Male hormone levels are being controlled (srs)

[Aussie939291]

Test levels are being deliberately lowered and estrogen levels being raised.

How else do you explain the rise of SJW's and the lack of respect beta males have for their own gender. Just go outside and have a look around at all the men you see, they are a disgrace and our grandfathers would be ashamed.

Men with low test are far more submissive and easier to control and manipulate.

[headturner1]

I expect a bit more from you op.

[Aussie939291]

I expect a bit more from you op.

I can't see why you would. I'm a notoriously bad poster.

[Poonti]

OP might be onto something... go on

[phailboat]

land mans on moon

[Aussie939291]

land mans on moon

Stats: 5'10", 138 lbs

Exhibit A, gentlemen.

[PeteJonesHTX]

Alright fellas, you know what to do...

[gunshow101]

i know mine are controlled. by me and my vials of test.

[HazemJ93]

i know mine are controlled. by me and my vials of E2.

Fixed it for you brah

[mihai2011rom]

Makes sense in western countries. Repped. I can see the effects here in Canada. Luckily Eastern Europe wasn't like this when I grew up. Still no SJW there but you never know.

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Exhibit B

Imbored21 and 90% of misc

[Duckliver]

i literally only see these so called estrogen enriched males on posts on the misc and like 1% of men i interact with on a daily basis.

[gymkook]

[PaulFry]

Probably right

[Talius]

Is it the fluoride in the water OP? On a more serious note, culture, media, and portrayal of people in movies, TV shows, commercials, etc play a far bigger role than some secret male hormone conspiracy. Western cultures have advanced to the point of comfortability being easily attainable, and secure.

There are no barbarians looking to take over, no serious wars on the homefront, which has lead to most males losing their edge. But places such as western Europe are waking up slowly but surely. If the situation in those countries worsens you can be sure that sooner or later your modern male will snap out of his amnesia, and the male of old is going to show up again.

When there is nothing to fight off, no conflicts to resolve, nothing needing high testosterone to overcome then the people are going to get cozy, and lose their edge until a new threat arises. Humans need constant problems to solve or else their brains wither away from not being used. What you are seeing now with the SJW and other similar groups is simply the result of the peak of western civilization, but once things go south again you can be sure all that bs is going to go away rather quickly.

[McAngus]

Not a completely crazy idea, at least a conspiracy like this brings up a very good point. Look at what happened to western men in just a few decades, maybe 1-3 generations max for most family trees. We are completely beta, even those of us on here. Many of us are probably considered the more alpha members within our spheres of influence, not trying to make us sound cool because we workout but let's be honest, we are usually the most alpha when we with others.

Yet we are mostly beta. Can you replace a car engine? Do you know how to start a fire the old school ways? Can you fish? Can you hunt? Do you read philosophical books and talk intellectually with your peers, or do you talk about football and Star Wars?

Something is going on guys and it is time to be honest and try to do something. Whether it is space aliens from the planet noobook doing this or all the chemicals found in foods and plastics, our species is changing.

[Skeeeeet]

[dfprodz]

Valid point

Either the cheapness of companies using chemicals for most products today where the end result exposes more E towards the population or it was meticulously implemented


it still sucks balls because if you look up phthalates, your mind will explode. It is EVERYWERE, especially in plastics. Apparently it is banned for children's toys under 3 due to how efficiently it would affect them, but it's still a concern

Metallic pshake bottle crew checkin in

[EsB818]

Fluoride in the water, ritalin, prozac, weed, GMOs

I've seen the documents, black helicopters



But srs, that would explain all the SJWs/Berniebros

[BigAssBubba]

[-Lucifer]

Let's start a New World Order, OP.

[Nonsense916]

Speak for yourself low test beta

[TheAmericano]

hmmmmm interesting


- op but how are they lowering test levels of mass population?

[Cpaballin]

I think you see what you want to see. You have this idea in your head and it reinforces itself the more you think about it.

Go work on a construction site. From personal experience there is little low t **** you tallking about.

Go work in investment banking. Family friend's dad is a banker and looks like arni high t sociopath.

Go work in any big corporate law firm. Mates brother talks about backstabbing kunts to gain the upper hand, punch ons in the elevators. Whether or not this is a sign of high t and is to the benefit of a big tier firm idk.

Go into the medical profession - big specialists like orthopaedics is an all boys club.

Go into IT in silicon v-a-a-a--a lol wait wut ayyy lmao jks sjw everywhere

[GaloisTheory]

I think it's much more likely the cultural shift that is responsible.

1) More and more people going to college and being brainwashed by their liberal professors (absolutely sick - anyone who has taken GEP classes can tell you this).

2) Young people who tend to be more liberal dominated social media and so they eventually became liberal propaganda machines, and everyone has social media so they are constantly exposed to that nonsense.

3) The destruction of the family unit (for many reasons: feminism, death of religion, etc...) A lot of the people in this generation grew up in troubled households with divorced parents. They lived with their single mom who constantly bashed their dad. This has a profound impact on their perception of men and what it means to be a man.

[AyMayne]

IMO, the effect of testosterone is overrated when talking about levels within the normal range. If you're clinically low test, sure, you'll notice a big difference, but something like 500 vs 800 ng/dl (let's assume free test is equal in this case) isn't going to produce a difference in gains and won't affect your personality much other than maybe making you hornier and a little more irritable.

The feminization of men is more due to the way they're conditioned growing up. Anti-masculine, pro-feminist messages are EVERYWHERE and nearly unavoidable. A lot of guys snap out of it to an extent by getting burned hard because that's the only way to learn, through experience. But without that experience, they'll never learn. Why do you think the average Redditor/beta is so pro-woman? They never had the experience or opportunity to get close enough to a girl to see that she's a flawed human being and not a goddess that can do no wrong. And so they continue to buy into it and propagate such beliefs, as do the rest of society. The lack of strong male figures (especially with kids raised by single moms) also factors into this.

Anyways, this is purely anecdotal since it's based on my personal experience alone, but I went through all of the typical beta male chit growing up, being overly effeminate, struggling with masculinity, TFW no gf, WK beliefs, etc. My test levels? 1009 ng/dl. That's in the fuking top 2% for my age range and right at the end of the natty range. But you'd never have guessed it. And yet there are countless people with half my test levels who are more masculine than I'll ever be even if I try. Test levels do affect mood and behavior to an extent and anybody who has messed around with trying to increase their test through diet or whatever means can attest to that, but not nearly as much as conditioning, from your peers, societal influence, the way you're raised, etc.

[phagtastic]

It is undeniable that there are lots of low test betas running around today.

I'm not sure if I buy into the idea that "they" are controlling it.

But I definitely think that the environment has changed in the last century, making it harder for high-test to prevail, and easier for low-test males to flourish.

Watch this documentary:
https://vimeo.com/15346778

Cliffs:
-Plastics (mainly bisphenol A) have become a huge part of daily life since the 50s
-It is fukking us up, especially males. Smaller dinks, less swimmers when we bust a nut, lower test

[OneBigFiasco]

Agreed. The government started poisoning us with ****ty school food when we were young before we even knew what was good and bad for us. We are burgers, pizza, cookies, brownies and a bunch of other garbage at our schools. The only healthy thing I remember from school lunches is a poverty salad in a tiny styrofoam bowl.

[zer0time]

Source: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2007;92:196-202.

[Talius]

Agreed. The government started posting us with ****ty school food when we were young before we even knew what was good and bad for us. We are burgers, pizza, cookies, brownies and a bunch of other garbage at our schools. The only healthy thing I remember from school lunches is a poverty salad in a tiny styrofoam bowl.

My school lunches were always crap, greasy-ass pizza, nasty-ass burgers and fries. That and a bunch of cookies/brownies. Not a salad in sight. What people don't realize is that when you eat healthy you feel better in the long-run. Sure it might not taste as "good", especially to younger people but it is better for you in the long run.

Junk food just makes me feel like crap after I eat it. It's not worth it. Most people in this generation have been so coddled up, and bubbled wrapped that they don't want to even eat food that doesn't taste all that "fun" to them. They would rather eat junk that tastes better to them than a salad, why? Because of the mentality: "always need to feel nice, and this food makes me feel nice, salads don't."

Parents isolate their kids from scraping their knees on the playground, from getting into casual brawls, and then they wonder why their kids turn into spoiled brats. They bubble wrap them, and pamper them, and don't teach them how raw the world is, and then after they leave HS, they wonder WTF happened to them.

People need to experience hardship, to feel pain, to go through challenges in order to better themselves in the long run. When all those things are taken away from them, their growth as a person is stunted, and their full abilities are never realized.