Fast food while cutting at deficit

[emmy813]

Fat does not make you fat. It does not make it harder to lose fat. In fact, it helps regulate your testostorone levels which is pretty much the opposite of what you are asserting. Please hang out more in the nutrition section on this board.

go ahead and eat all the fat you want and let's compare pictures in 2 months!

[JSP552003]

I've been eating some kind of fast food at least 4 meals/week for the last month. Granted I still make sure I stay at or under my cal limit (2200, cut) and hit my protein for the day (1g/lb bodyweight). I've been losing 1.5-2lbs/week for the last 3 weeks. I didn't weigh last weekend because I was out of town but we'll see where I'm at come sunday.

I went on a pretty hardcore diet last july-sept. and lost 27lbs without any exercise (bad idea) and ended up pretty skinny fat. I've been on All-pros beginner routine since Jan. of this year and my lifts are still steadily increasing. Can't wait to cut down so I can start slow bulking and build some mass. My goal is to be 210 by May 31st before I start my bulk.

[Chicago1287]

The problem with fast food is this:

The calories are wrong on thier nutritional labels. I guarantee it. Let's say taco bell for example. They don't have premeasured beans or premeasured cheese. They just throw everything in there by hand. For example, I've bought the 5 layer burrito at 1 taco bell, and bought the same thing at a different taco bell. The 2nd taco bell gave me a much bigger one.

[Electricheadd]

go ahead and eat all the fat you want and let's compare pictures in 2 months!

You are basing your knowledge on the lipid theory. It's has been disproven many times over. Fat does not cause heart disease, it actually helps with weight loss. It is calorie dense though, so you really need to keep track of what your eating.

Do a little research on low fat diets..... Nothing good about them.

[oMc_fRi]

Calories are calories. I used to have a cheat meal at McDonalds every Friday on my cut. I would still fit it into my Macros <2500 calories and I lost about a pound a week..

[oMc_fRi]

The problem with fast food is this:

The calories are wrong on thier nutritional labels. I guarantee it. Let's say taco bell for example. They don't have premeasured beans or premeasured cheese. They just throw everything in there by hand. For example, I've bought the 5 layer burrito at 1 taco bell, and bought the same thing at a different taco bell. The 2nd taco bell gave me a much bigger one.

^ The food products made at fast food locations actually do have pre-measured quantities. I worked at Taco Time in high school. Every ingredient has a quantity for each certain food item. Sometimes the workers don't follow directions.

[BuckeyeRideR]

Thanks for all the input guys. I must reply that chipotle burrito was amazing. I pretty much inhaled it, but after looking up the macros i found out the worse thing for you is the burrito itself (290cals).

I do not plan to eat fast food everyday, just when i'm on the go. Of course i keep track of my macros and hit my protein mark everyday. After eating fast food these last couple days i've lost 3lbs.

[Electricheadd]

Thanks for all the input guys. I must reply that chipotle burrito was amazing. I pretty much inhaled it, but after looking up the macros i found out the worse thing for you is the burrito itself (290cals).

I do not plan to eat fast food everyday, just when i'm on the go. Of course i keep track of my macros and hit my protein mark everyday. After eating fast food these last couple days i've lost 3lbs.

Carnitas bol!!! Its amazing.... 49g of protein and 600-700 ish calories depending how you get it.

[bilaba70]

Are macros really that important?

Two scenarios here:
I've been eating out more lately since things have been hectic, however i compensate my for a Wendy's meal on my 2000cal diet and do not go over. I usually get the spicy chicken combo with a small fry and coke. Is this if i do not have goods macros?

Is this OK if i have good macros for the day?

I'm mainly trying to figure out if 2000cals is 2000cals no matter what it is, or is there a deeper understanding to it. I don't eat out everyday, just curious. I also remember reading how someone was cutting and losing consistently while going to mcD's everyday and only getting a cheeseburger and small fry.

You can do that and still lose weight, isn't that great?! Uhm...no, not exactly. By eating fastfood every day, it's more likely that you're not hitting your daily protein-needs.

Not enough protein + insufficient heavy lifting = muscle-loss

You don't want that to happen. It is possible to hit your protein-needs while going to mickey D's, but you're likely to go over your calorie-deficit.

Instead of going 3 times a day to the golden arches, try fitting the foods you like in your calorie-deficit (while hitting your macro's). This way, you'll be able to satisfy your cravings without going overboard.

[msm00b]

Next time I cut hard I'm going on the KFC Double-down diet.

1 DD for lunch
2 DDs for dinner

(approx 1800 calories/day with half-decent macro spread).

I'll sell my before/after results to KFC and get rich.

And yes, for sh^ts and giggles I really am going to do nothing but DDs with my next cut. I'll be checking serum lipids, triglycerides, liver enzymes, and cholesterol. Will be interesting to see how it looks. Only downside is it'll cost 15 bucks a day

[MusclesGlassess]

If you eat less calories then you need to stay the same weight, you will lose weight.

[Ninetysix]

emmy813 is so unaware.

[NitrogenWidget]

Fries are normally drenched in fat. Can have as much calories as the main part of the meal.

If you get a diet coke (or other 0 calories alternative), and drop the fries it wouldnt be so bad and you can fit things in pretty easily.

The problem i find is getting enough protein from a meal, such that i dont have to bump it up in later meals too much.

The problem I find with that is it destroys my insides & puts a hurting on my bathroom plumbing. LOL!
So i've just cut it out alltogether.

[emmy813]

emmy813 is so unaware.

get at me bro...all i see on this forum is a bunch of lazy fat or skinny fat ppl that want to eat fast food on a diet! give me a break, I'm just trying to help you guys. Until someone bigger and leaner than me supports your view, I will not listen and do not stand corrected.

[BigBeard86]

do you think your body know the difference if your calories came fro mbrussel sprouts or mcdonalds? no!

calories are calories - you have to make sure you get your protein and healthy fats in; other than that, you can eat whatever you want. if you can fit fries and a big mac into your caloric req., then do it if you please.

of course, from a health standpoint, eating "clean" foods is healthier and provides more nutrients (which your body needs when weight training) than "dirty" food.

[Electricheadd]

get at me bro...all i see on this forum is a bunch of lazy fat or skinny fat ppl that want to eat fast food on a diet! give me a break, I'm just trying to help you guys. Until someone bigger and leaner than me supports your view, I will not listen and do not stand corrected.

How about somebody much smarter than you who has trained 1000s of people bigger and leaner than you?


http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...ts-part-1.html

[samakaballer]

calories in calories out

eat what you want as long as you are at a deficit

i ate 2 quarter pounders with cheese, fries and coke the other day and im on a cut

i just ate very little the rest of the day

fast food doesnt have some magical property that makes you get fatter than healthier choices....the problem is its so calorie dense people down say a 1500 fast food meal easily, eat later, and end up going over their daily caloric intake for weight loss

if you dont mind eating very little the rest of the day, go for it.....if you want to have more spread out balanced meals, eat less calorie dense foods

that's kind of what i'm doing... I get a 5 dollar meal at kfc and that is like all i need.. i just eat that and eat small snacks the rest of the day. i'm losing slowly but still losing , the only way i'd consider eating at fast food joints twice a day is if i hit like an hour of cardio in the gym

[vrundmc]

I travel mon-thu for work so my rotation of fast food is this:

Chipotle, Pot Belly, Chick Fil A, and Chicken Out Rotisserie. Occasionally Whole Foods. Losing 1lb/week. Getting over 150g of protein/day.

[manicmechanic13]

That damn spicy chicken sandwich is the bane of my existence. Literally the last fast foot item I cannot live without.

[dsp_selym]

get at me bro...all i see on this forum is a bunch of lazy fat or skinny fat ppl that want to eat fast food on a diet! give me a break, I'm just trying to help you guys. Until someone bigger and leaner than me supports your view, I will not listen and do not stand corrected.

Or a scientist...?

[nondualism]

get at me bro...all i see on this forum is a bunch of lazy fat or skinny fat ppl that want to eat fast food on a diet! give me a break, I'm just trying to help you guys. Until someone bigger and leaner than me supports your view, I will not listen and do not stand corrected.

Am I not lean enough? The first 30lbs I dropped, I ate fast food every day.

[PerpetualMotion]

Fat does not make you fat. It does not make it harder to lose fat. In fact, it helps regulate your testostorone levels which is pretty much the opposite of what you are asserting. Please hang out more in the nutrition section on this board.

Speaking of nutrition board, you won't hear anyone just advocating if it fits in your calories since they put a strong emphasis on macros as well, hence the existence of IIFYM. So, ultimately, if it: (1) fits in your calories, AND (2) fits in your macros then you're good to go!

I personally prefer to make sure that the majority of my macros and calories from micronutrient-dense foods but everyone has their own preference. If body composition is your ultimate goal then macros and calories are what ultimately matter. I've seen some advocate micronutrients, too.

[Chicago1287]

^ The food products made at fast food locations actually do have pre-measured quantities. I worked at Taco Time in high school. Every ingredient has a quantity for each certain food item. Sometimes the workers don't follow directions.

Well then different locations must have different measurements because that example that I gave is a fact. The beefy 5 layer burrito is my favorite and I usually go to the one closer to where I live cause they put much more beef in it than the other location nearby.

But what about things such as fries? They just take a scoop and throw it in. The calories are def off on those. That's just one of many examples.

[emmy813]

Am I not lean enough? The first 30lbs I dropped, I ate fast food every day.

bro you barely have any muscle.... on another note if you are fat and wishing to lose weight then ok calories in calories out BUT, if you are a bodybuilder on a cut wanting to preserve as much muscle as possible macros do matter! protein has 4 calories per gram, carbs have 4 calories per gram, and fat has 9 calories per gram. On a cut you should try to eat 1 LB of protein per LB of body weight in order to keep as much muscle as possible. You are on a diet and should be in a calorie deficit, so how are you going to eat enough protein in a diet high in fat consisting of fast food?

[emmy813]

I never said to consume no sugar and fat on a diet, but to limit it to as little as possible on a cut.

[Danzig747]

I hate the people who hate the people that order a combo meal and get a diet soda. They laugh at you for getting a diet soda knowing that your meal is ****.

Yeah, I know its unhealthy, but every calorie counts *******...I want these fries today.

[gjc312]

Your biggest enemy with this is the sodium. Especially the Grilled chicken sandwiches....omg so loaded with sodium.

I use to do it all the time and if your in your calorie amount for the day your good to go. I cut down due to the massive scale swings I get due to water retention....more annoying then anything else.

Not hitting your protien needs for a day or two a week is going to have almost no effect on your overall goal.

[nondualism]

bro you barely have any muscle.... on another note if you are fat and wishing to lose weight then ok calories in calories out BUT, if you are a bodybuilder on a cut wanting to preserve as much muscle as possible macros do matter! protein has 4 calories per gram, carbs have 4 calories per gram, and fat has 9 calories per gram. On a cut you should try to eat 1 LB of protein per LB of body weight in order to keep as much muscle as possible. You are on a diet and should be in a calorie deficit, so how are you going to eat enough protein in a diet high in fat consisting of fast food?

Barely any muscle? For a natty lifter at the end of a 4.5 month cut, I think I did pretty good. Also, my strength is increasing on this cut. I muffed my gaining phase after that photo and chubbed up a bit, but I was gaining muscle pretty quickly.

You can't eat JUST FF and hit your macros, but using IF, you can certainly work it in. I usually supplement with a blended protein shake supplement.

[gachase21]

try mcdonald's grilled chicken caeser salad(220 cals) with balsamic dressing(40 cals) 260 cals total, pretty goood, filling., Get ice water for free with it an leave for less than $5 also

[Electricheadd]

bro you barely have any muscle.... on another note if you are fat and wishing to lose weight then ok calories in calories out BUT, if you are a bodybuilder on a cut wanting to preserve as much muscle as possible macros do matter! protein has 4 calories per gram, carbs have 4 calories per gram, and fat has 9 calories per gram. On a cut you should try to eat 1 LB of protein per LB of body weight in order to keep as much muscle as possible. You are on a diet and should be in a calorie deficit, so how are you going to eat enough protein in a diet high in fat consisting of fast food?

The recommendation is 1-1.5g of protein/lb of LEAN BODY MASS and .4-.5g of fat/lb of body weight. For a 200 lb lifter at 20% bodyfat this equates to 160g of protein and 80g of fat per day.

160 *4 = 640 calories of protein
80 *9 = 720 calories of Fat

Assuming this lifter is on a 2100 calories per day cut that leaves 740 calories of whatever the hell he wants to eat......