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    Question Is Medical School even worth it really? Given all the time/work needed? Thoughts?

    4 years Bachelors... studying non stop to get a >3.8 GPA... spend hundreds of hours volunteering/shadowing/etc etc ... study an insane amount for the MCAT... prepare for a huge interview..

    accepted: Welcome to med school
    rejected: spend another year... or maybe 2 years (doing a masters) then re apply.

    Age going in: 22-24

    4 years of studying/training non stop all day + study for insanely high scores on the big exams/step 1 whatever

    Age finished med school: 26-28

    Apply to residency programs (going through med school applying process all over again basically) and hope to get into a solid speciality.

    Spend 4 years doing your residency.. working 70-80 hours a week...

    Age finished residency: 30-32

    Do a fellowship perhaps...


    Age starting real work: 30-33
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    Reason: Parents made you, you thought you'd be rich easily, you want the prestige

    Yes some people will really like it, but we're talking on average for purpose of a discussion.

    Thoughts?
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    If you have a passion for medicine, then yes.

    Edit: The fact that it is so tough and requires so much sacrifice is part of the appeal. There's no glory in accomplishing something easy, and those that choose that path won't settle until they've given it everything they've got.
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    if you're in it for money youll hate it very quickly

    yes some do it for the money but most have a passion for medicine
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    Originally Posted by secretlifter3 View Post
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    ?
    due to this right here absolutely not.

    If you have a passion for the field and are exceptional at science, then yes. It's worth every single agonizing cram session.

    If you're doing ANYTHING because your parents made you and told you it'd make you rich, then no - that's stupid.
    Follow what YOU want to do and stay fiscally intelligent to make money doing what makes you happy.
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    Originally Posted by secretlifter3 View Post
    4 years Bachelors... studying non stop to get a >3.8 GPA... spend hundreds of hours volunteering/shadowing/etc etc ... study an insane amount for the MCAT... prepare for a huge interview..

    accepted: Welcome to med school
    rejected: spend another year... or maybe 2 years (doing a masters) then re apply.

    Age going in: 22-24

    4 years of studying/training non stop all day + study for insanely high scores on the big exams/step 1 whatever

    Age finished med school: 26-28

    Apply to residency programs (going through med school applying process all over again basically) and hope to get into a solid speciality.

    Spend 4 years doing your residency.. working 70-80 hours a week...

    Age finished residency: 30-32

    Do a fellowship perhaps...


    Age starting real work: 30-33
    Debt: Massive
    Reason: Parents made you, you thought you'd be rich easily, you want the prestige

    Yes some people will really like it, but we're talking on average for purpose of a discussion.

    Thoughts?
    Take this from me, a fifth year med student in a six year program.

    Simple answer with all honesty : No it is not worth it given the reasons you just pointed but some of us went into the field for what it really comes down to, Helping people.
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    if that's what you like then i think its worth it. in the end you'll have a secure job but more importantly you'll have a job where you can have a significant impact on the lives of your patients. personally i wouldn't do medicine cause it takes forever to get done and with pharmacy i can still have a good impact on my future patients lives.
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    No one goes into med school for ONE reason only... Everyone says "its because i want to help ppl" but they always have in mind the $.

    If doctors werent so well paid, how many people would actually go into med school knowing how ****ing long and hard it is?
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    Originally Posted by QuasiMoFoo View Post
    if you want to make money, yes
    lol no, if you are driven enough to make it through med school then you could easily become an investment banker and make a lot more than most doctors
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    Only problem is if one isnt in the top 5% of their med school class, they can expect to work 55 hour weeks for the rest of their life... If not 60 hours weeks or maybe more even sometimes...

    In b4 people tell me about some dermatologist or radiologist they know who works 9-5... those dudes have achieved the academic equivalent of being a pro athlete...
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    Originally Posted by brianhorne3 View Post

    Edit: The fact that it is so tough and requires so much sacrifice is part of the appeal. There's no glory in accomplishing something easy, and those that choose that path won't settle until they've given it everything they've got.
    will rep on recharge


    even now i'm doing notes on oral and maxillofacial surgery though it won't be relevant for many years to come, i'm extremely passionate

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    prolly worth it for all intents and purposes

    slight threadjack, how did you guys improve your VR on the MCAT for apps?
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    Originally Posted by metallideth View Post
    if that's what you like then i think its worth it. in the end you'll have a secure job but more importantly you'll have a job where you can have a significant impact on the lives of your patients. personally i wouldn't do medicine cause it takes forever to get done and with pharmacy i can still have a good impact on my future patients lives.
    hence why im pursueing the pharmd
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    Originally Posted by T-Roach View Post
    will rep on recharge


    even now i'm doing notes on oral and maxillofacial surgery though it won't be relevant for many years to come, i'm extremely passionate

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    Too bad t-roach u dress like a phaggot...

    Hope to god ur patients never have to see you in sperrys and ****ing polos when you operate on them.
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    Originally Posted by T-Roach View Post
    will rep on recharge


    even now i'm doing notes on oral and maxillofacial surgery though it won't be relevant for many years to come, i'm extremely passionate

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    You're the best person to ask this from. Well these questions...

    How old are you expecting to live in your parents' house?
    Whenw will you become 100% financially stable?
    So you won't reach your full goal until you are 36? Does that bother you?
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    Originally Posted by Straight2Ace View Post
    Too bad t-roach u dress like a phaggot...

    Hope to god ur patients never have to see you in sperrys and ****ing polos when you operate on them.
    i don't wear sperrys and polos

    u mad?

    Originally Posted by secretlifter3 View Post
    You're the best person to ask this from. Well these questions...

    How old are you expecting to live in your parents' house?
    Whenw will you become 100% financially stable?
    So you won't reach your full goal until you are 36? Does that bother you?
    well there are lots of other guys who you can ask from (misc med student thread)
    but:
    i moved out when i started dent school (so it's been 1.5 years)
    100% financially stable.. well in 2 years i'll be able to work as a dentist so i guess i'll say i won't have many money problems after that
    -nope, not at all. it's a hell of a journey but i'm going to enjoy it all the way + be proud of myself when i'll make it

    let's see.. i have another 3 + 4 + 4 years possible.. or 3 + 6 + 4.. depends a lot, not sure of all of the factors involved (for example, if I am a MD and a DDS, i think it takes 2 years off of the specialization phase)..
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    Originally Posted by T-Roach View Post
    i don't wear sperrys and polos

    u mad?
    Luls phuck u!

    Go operate on ur fashion sense.

    Edit: also wanna do medschool this yr op... feels weird man? go back to uni at 22.... gotta resit my exam missed it last yr by couple points. Feels bad man.
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    Originally Posted by Straight2Ace View Post
    Luls phuck u!

    Go operate on ur fashion sense.

    Edit: also wanna do medschool this yr op... feels weird man? go back to uni at 22.... gotta resit my exam missed it last yr by couple points. Feels bad man.
    u having a bad day or u personally mad at me?
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    Originally Posted by T-Roach View Post
    i don't wear sperrys and polos

    u mad?



    well there are lots of other guys who you can ask from (misc med student thread)
    but:
    i moved out when i started dent school (so it's been 1.5 years)
    100% financially stable.. well in 2 years i'll be able to work as a dentist so i guess i'll say i won't have many money problems after that
    -nope, not at all. it's a hell of a journey but i'm going to enjoy it all the way + be proud of myself when i'll make it

    let's see.. i have another 3 + 4 + 4 years possible.. or 3 + 6 + 4.. depends a lot, not sure of all of the factors involved (for example, if I am a MD and a DDS, i think it takes 2 years off of the specialization phase)..
    How can you afford to be able to be stable financially and go to dent school and then med school ? And how can you afford to be a dentist but still do an MD? like time wise...

    just curious man
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    lol u mad. brb entering at 18 coming out at 23, no college fees
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    Originally Posted by UGK4Life View Post
    lol u mad. brb entering at 18 coming out at 23, no college fees
    wat
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    If you're able to get into medicine you belong there, that's the end of it.

    Its not about being worth it, it's a life long education/chasing perfection of what you do. If you have to ask "is it worth it?" then no it probably isn't.

    Very few people, in Canada especially, get into medicine for the money. if you're smart enough and determined enough to get into medicine but only want to for the money, you have the talent, work ethic and brain to make money somewhere else.

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    Originally Posted by secretlifter3 View Post
    wat
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    worth it if u are not there for money.

    Yet again if u are there for the money, chances are u wont stratosferic numbers soon because u lack the passion, there are much faster ways to make money. For example I may be making 6 USD figures a year starting this year at 18, as a full time college student in a developing country... while several med graduates here who busted their ass for close to 10 years work for 5$ an appoinment since there are no decent positions available for them.

    Originally Posted by sabms View Post
    Take this from me, a fifth year med student in a six year program.

    Simple answer with all honesty : No it is not worth it given the reasons you just pointed but some of us went into the field for what it really comes down to, Helping people.
    Age: 22

    Pls go, we all know that having to go through bachelor studying worthless sh*t just to be able to apply to med school makes the waiting 10x worse than going to med school straight out of high school like i can do here in mexico, feels bad for the kids in average american programs.
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