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    Should I cut or bulk? What Nutrition/Workout should I use? [pics]

    Hey guys, not sure on whether or not I should go and bulk or cut. A 6 pack is an eventual goal of mine.

    I scale pretty well with exercise, was active active about a year ago before University. Gained about 20 lb over the last year though.

    Me: 163 lb, 5'6 or 5'7 ish 20 years old a couple days ago.

    Images are attached at the bottom of the post.

    I *thought* that I should start cutting. Some guy recommended I bulk.

    I was considering the plan Craned uses:

    Originally Posted by craned
    Day 1: Quads and Hamstrings

    Leg extensions 3x10
    Front squats 3x10 (makes you stronger in other areas)
    regular squats 4x10
    leg press 4x10

    straight-leg deadlifts 3x10
    leg curls 3x10
    standing leg curls 3x10

    Day 2: Chest and tri

    Incline dumbell press 3x8
    Bench press 12,10,8,6,4 (go up each set)
    Weighted dips 3x8
    Fly machine 3x8
    cable cross-overs 3x8 (do them high or low for whichever part of your chest you think that is lagging)

    skull crushers 3x8
    pushdowns 3x8

    Day 3: Back and bi's

    pull-ups 4x10
    bentover rows 3x8
    seated close grip rows 3x8
    seated one arm rows on machine 3x8

    standing curls 3x8
    incline curls 3x8

    Day 4: shoulders and traps

    military or arnold press 3x8
    front dumbell raises 3x8
    side dumbell raises 3x8

    upright rows 3x8
    standing dumbell laterals 3x8
    shrugs 4x10 (as heavy as you can go)

    Day 5: bi's, tri's and calves

    close grip bench 3x8
    skull crushers 3x8
    pushdowns 3x8
    reverse grip pulldowns 3x10

    standing curls 3x8
    preacher curls 10,8,6,4
    incline curls 3x8

    standing calf raises 4x as many as I can
    seated calf raises 3x8
    calf raise on leg press 3x8
    Or the p/rr/s workout.

    Most importantly I don't know what to do with my nutrition, If I'm cutting what should be the limits. So many guides out there but a lot of them contradict each other.

    Thanks guys!
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    I would bulk using All Pro's thread in the stickies.
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    Originally Posted by wills12 View Post
    I would bulk using All Pro's thread in the stickies.
    Yea that what was suggested to me. I weighed 140 in June of last year, 160 is almost 20lb of extra fat it seems. Can I still thin out to a six pack while bulking?
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    Originally Posted by Senjai View Post
    Yea that what was suggested to me. I weighed 140 in June of last year, 160 is almost 20lb of extra fat it seems. Can I still thin out to a six pack while bulking?
    It would be hard to do so considering where your starting, but cutting now will leave you pretty damn skinny.

    IMO bulk with 500cal over maintenance. Minimal fat gain, maximum muscle gain.
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    Just slow bulk at 250-500 above maintenance.
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    Originally Posted by UltimatE157 View Post
    It would be hard to do so considering where your starting, but cutting now will leave you pretty damn skinny.

    IMO bulk with 500cal over maintenance. Minimal fat gain, maximum muscle gain.
    Yea that's what I'd worry about.

    Originally Posted by JJTransforms View Post
    Just slow bulk at 250-500 above maintenance.
    Maybe Ill try this, I can pretty much keep my weight but turn the fat into muscle. I guess the logic makes sense, lose only to gain?

    If I cut, it would just be rid of the fat, then I'd bulk from there..

    I just wanted to start bulking with a good physique.
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    Does the workout posted sound suitable?

    Thanks for all your help everyone!
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    Originally Posted by Senjai View Post
    Does the workout posted sound suitable?

    Thanks for all your help everyone!
    I would defo say do a cut, however it's not easy you need correct diet and training volumes/intensities etc

    I am a girl so I cant really advise you as my nutrition is different.

    Edit- Reason why I think you a cut is good, you would look hot with a 6 pack
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    Originally Posted by Sandrathegreat View Post
    I would defo say do a cut, however it's not easy you need correct diet and training volumes/intensities etc

    I am a girl so I cant really advise you as my nutrition is different.

    Edit- Reason why I think you a cut is good, you would look hot with a 6 pack
    I was closeish in June of last, literally like 90% of my gain was fat. I have a few nutritional ideas for cutting.


    But im in the grey area.
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    Originally Posted by Senjai View Post
    I was closeish in June of last, literally like 90% of my gain was fat. I have a few nutritional ideas for cutting.


    But im in the grey area.
    defo sounds like you need advice off somebody who knows what to do
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