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    Unhappy Nothing for estrogen or prolactin in lit-up, WHY?!

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    Because the dosage of DAA isn't high enough to warrant one, per THEHUGE.
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    Because the dosage of DAA isn't high enough to warrant one, per THEHUGE.
    2 scoops is 3grams! Someone send me some ATD.
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    Originally Posted by DBee View Post
    2 scoops is 3grams! Someone send me some ATD.
    DBee~~didn't you have some gyno problems in the past ? I"m surprised you would start any product that could mess with your hormone levels
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    DBee~~didn't you have some gyno problems in the past ? I"m surprised you would start any product that could mess with your hormone levels
    I did -- A friend gave me a bottle of lit-up and I'm so tempted. That's why I'm mad they didn't put anything in there to prevent sides.
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    I wonder if Dirk brought this up in his interview with Superhuman radio. I didn't finish it, so I'm not 100% sure.
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    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    I wonder if Dirk brought this up in his interview with Superhuman radio. I didn't finish it, so I'm not 100% sure.
    Me either. Would like to know as well.
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    Originally Posted by DBee View Post
    2 scoops is 3grams! Someone send me some ATD.
    Maybe he'll chime in... I'll ask him.
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    Thought id help a little,

    quoted on an answer i got on prolatin and estrogen control with Lit-up

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    Couple quick reads on how the Lit-Up formula negates any type of potential side effects from D-Aspartic Acid:

    http://ceu-usa.com/courses/WC001/tes...tion_cycle.htm

    http://hopes.stanford.edu/n3619/drug...ion/folic-acid

    http://www.chronicfatiguetreatments....igue-syndrome/


    This is why some people get depressed or anxious on regular DAA products- DAA activates the NMDA receptor, and NMDA activation, while ok in itself, is not good in excess. When homocysteine begins to build up (it is a by-product in the SAM-e cycle), it can actually cause additional excess activation in the NMDA receptor. This can lead to a lot of the sides you are hearing about from DAA, such as anxiety, depression, and night sweats. However, homocysteine has two routes of disposal- and this is the beauty of the formulation:

    1. It can accumulate and be disposed of in the urine
    2. It can be transformed (re-methylated) into methionine by folic acid, where it can re-enter the SAM-e cycle and be used again.

    As you can see in the articles, Folate, TMG, and B-12, are all substrates that help to increase step 2- and this is why you will never see any DAA-related sides from Lit-Up- the product contains agents that re-methylate homocysteine, thus preventing any type of build-up in the tissues and keeping it from overloading the NMDA receptor....







    Probably the best way to measure it is by how you feel- if you are anxious, depressed, and have trouble sleeping when you are taking DAA, you probably are getting some overstim on the NMDA receptor, and need some methylating agents to recycle the excess homocysteine. DAA plus methylating agents has a different "feel" to it- you feel up and energetic all the time, with a huge libido boost.....
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    Originally Posted by Whey2Grow View Post
    Thought id help a little,

    quoted on an answer i got on prolatin and estrogen control with Lit-up
    This is more to do with the negative impact of homocysteine and how they've mitigated against that than anything prolactin/estrogen related.
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    Because the dosage of DAA isn't high enough to warrant one, per THEHUGE.
    I don't remember any comment of mine on that...TBH I don't even know how much DAA is in it!

    DBee had gyno surgically removed IIRC, if so I'd stay away from DAA in general just to be safe.
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    Originally Posted by THEHUGE View Post
    I don't remember any comment of mine on that...TBH I don't even know how much DAA is in it!

    DBee had gyno surgically removed IIRC, if so I'd stay away from DAA in general just to be safe.
    I must have misread, sorry!
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    I did -- A friend gave me a bottle of lit-up and I'm so tempted. That's why I'm mad they didn't put anything in there to prevent sides.
    I think you will be just fine from the Lit-Up- we have sold 1000's of tubs and no reports of E or PRL issues I had L-Dopa and P-5-P in the orginal version, but they are both banned in numerous foreign markets that we sell into, so they aren't an option in the formulation- and Vitex tastes like absolute ****, so it wasn't an option, either.

    Simple solution- Free Test and HGH-Up stack extremely well with Lit-Up (I formulated Lit-Up with this in mind)- and HGH-Up limits PRL due to the high L-Dopa content, while Free Test contains Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione , which is a strong AI. If you don't want to buy the stack (we have some good deals)- mucuna pruriens is a good option as a natural source of L-Dopa, and multiple sources exist that can act as an anti-e....
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    Originally Posted by Elliptical Envy View Post
    I wonder if Dirk brought this up in his interview with Superhuman radio. I didn't finish it, so I'm not 100% sure.
    I didn't address this during the interview- we went over the MOA's of the product more than anything...
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