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    Originally Posted by rxBrah View Post
    the p values are clinically significant but what is the duration of the trial? That makes a big difference, sure someone just put on test short term may gain more muscle then someone who has just started working out, but will the results be the same 6 months from now? Doubt it, there is no stimulus, they will probably just be lean as fuark with slightly more muscle tone, and by that point contracted testes
    No you'll keep getting huge (eventually phil heath size),because it's the only thing that separates regular miscers on here from pros. Hell I bet most pro's can't fathom the intense training by most miscers. However,i've always found it ironic that posters who live and die by these studies (the ones that tell themselves cell tek is the only difference between them and ronnie) are always the ones who've never ran a cycle.

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    Originally Posted by Yaaaaaabuddy View Post
    I know a guy who used to be addicted to roids, but he hardly ever worked out. He was pissed off all the time, had a decent size build but definitely was not more muscular than anyone who works out without steroids, including me. Graphs bull****
    before you knew it he was sucking cock in the alleyway to get another hit of testosterone

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    Originally Posted by Yaaaaaabuddy View Post
    I know a guy who used to be addicted to roids, but he hardly ever worked out. He was pissed off all the time, had a decent size build but definitely was not more muscular than anyone who works out without steroids, including me. Graphs bull****
    What steroids exactly? If he's doing something big like Test, Tren, Deca, Dbol and Proviron, I don't see how that's possible.

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    Originally Posted by bybon View Post
    lol @ people who are suprised anabolic androgenic steroids causes fat loss and skeletal muscle mass increases even without exercise.
    They're surprised because they gained more than naturals who were actually lifting. Not because they had gains at all.
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    This thread ...




    I need datdere celltech..

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    Can't wait to get juicey!!! Any research on fat loss from cell tech?
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    Originally Posted by YESr0d View Post
    Can't wait to get juicey!!! Any research on fat loss from cell tech?
    plenty, causes fat loss

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    You knew that someone on cell tech who does not exercise can gain more than 50% fat free muscle than someone who does not use cell tech and exercises?



    Many juicers have claimed this and still do so. As an example, the entire oz crew.



    No. They are for people who are smart and understand the concept of efficiency and dont buy into bullsh*t propoganda.
    But aren't there nasty side-effects associated with steroid use? Doesn't it ruin your libido and cause acne and hair loss?
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    went from 120-150 lbs with no fat gain in 2 years natural lifting, then stayed 150 for 4 yrs ..

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    To all the cell tech users on this forum who claim they still need to work out just as hard and put just as much effort in as non users, please stfu from now on. We now all know that you are all full of sh*t and most of your gains are because of cell tech and nothing more.

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    Is there any hope for nattys? :'(

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    Originally Posted by dtoxUK View Post
    Is there any hope for nattys? :'(
    no, srsly i havent gained weight in the last 4 yrs of natural training

    i did lose hope after attempting to bulk hard as fuk and failed to gain weight or significant strength after 6 months and now i just maintain

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    They gained muscles, but did the non-lifting juicer gained any strength? Or is it just the aesthetics part that improved?

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    I read and learned about this research in a drugs class at school.

    It does prove that you can gain muscle without working out... but;

    1. If I remember correctly it was a fairly short duration, which would account for the cell tech gains ahead of the natural gains.
    2. They did not specify the condition of the subjects, and because it was a university research report it is very likely that many of the subjects had little to no muscle to begin with. If you have no muscle mass to begin with it is not hard to believe that tech use will be bigger then noob gains.

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    To all the cell tech users on this forum who claim they still need to work out just as hard and put just as much effort in as non users, please stfu from now on. We now all know that you are all full of sh*t and most of your gains are because of cell tech and nothing more.
    yeah it pisses me off, they think they WORK HARDER, not even as hard.

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    u mad kunt?

    stay juicy bros

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    You knew that someone on cell tech who does not exercise can gain more than 50% fat free muscle than someone who does not use cell tech and exercises?
    Didn't know actual numbers...but if you've ever seen a guy that juices in real life, it's not hard to come up with a conclusion like that.

    Just look at what happens to some kids in high school. Guys will blow up over the course of a year or two without changing anything. Why? They went through puberty and had a huge increase of natural test.

    Really not that hard to grasp. Not really that mind blowing either.

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    Originally Posted by bybon View Post
    plenty, causes fat loss
    god damnit all of you people posting here have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to anabolics, or celltech in general. Bybon actually makes some really relevant points in this thread, and me too also LOL'd at the guy who said you dont need clen to get swole. If you have never taken anabolics before don't go around talking bout it like you know everything.
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    do cell-tech users also automatically gain strength?


    can a celltech user with no exercise be stronger than germanic?

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    I'd workout harder while on steroids to maximize gains.

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    Originally Posted by WecktDieToten View Post
    This thread ...




    I need datdere celltech..
    srsly man. i'm imagining what i'd look like on celltech and it tempting like a mofo. be swole as fuk. intimidating *******s. would be awesome.

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    Originally Posted by caliprav View Post
    Where is that interview done with real bodybuilder? (don't know link.)

    he said he doesn't even have to lift that hard in the gym because of all the chemical anabolic cocktail he shoots up his ass every single day.
    i srsly doubt that, if you compete then you want to bust your ass in the gym because if you dont, someone else will, and that someone will beat you at the comp

    Originally Posted by Drunk_Dude View Post
    can a celltech user with no exercise be stronger than germanic?

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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post
    No. They are for people who are smart and understand the concept of efficiency and dont buy into bullsh*t propoganda.
    Never used steroids as I haven't researched them enough to feel comfortable in their use... but yeah. Morally, I see nothing wrong with using steroids. Like anything it can be harmful if overused/wronglyused but believe that decision should be left to the individual.

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    Originally Posted by hangman_27 View Post
    I'd workout harder while on steroids to maximize gains.
    can't you just imagine the results? would be so badarse.

    brb benching 500lbs

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    I think that is the truth. I read some research articles and they said anabolic steroids effect was mainly direct and only a small portion of the global effect was indirect and dependent on exercise...

    I know some real life troll who never went to gym just injected some steroides and got serious gains...

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    Originally Posted by laughin_man View Post
    i srsly doubt that, if you compete then you want to bust your ass in the gym because if you dont, someone else will, and that someone will beat you at the comp



    take roids, dont workout, get in natural competition, profit


    lol

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    Originally Posted by Mcflibber View Post
    went from 120-150 lbs with no fat gain in 2 years natural lifting, then stayed 150 for 4 yrs ..

    fml
    This. Peaked at like at 20. Since then I've had times where I took 6 months off, once even a year for big injury... Couple weeks and back to that peak. Also had times where I didn't miss the gym a single day for 6 months.... and still didn't get any bigger or stronger.

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    Originally Posted by canuckathlete View Post
    I read and learned about this research in a drugs class at school.

    It does prove that you can gain muscle without working out... but;

    1. If I remember correctly it was a fairly short duration, which would account for the cell tech gains ahead of the natural gains.
    2. They did not specify the condition of the subjects, and because it was a university research report it is very likely that many of the subjects had little to no muscle to begin with. If you have no muscle mass to begin with it is not hard to believe that tech use will be bigger then noob gains.
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    think this study is trash


    especially considering we are not even given the duration in which it took place


    anyone got a link to the abstract?
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    Originally Posted by Frizzel View Post

    They are small if you look at their current size without taking their progress into account. They put on ridiculous amounts of LBM over a very short period of time. It would take natty lifters 5 times as long to achieve what they did in one year.

    you trolling??


    you can get as big as zyzz naturally in about a year and a half


    5 years?? you can get as big as guys like Layne Norton who are 5'11 240 in offseason

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